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WarChild 04-24-2011 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 18084213)
As Walmart, among many other economists, have stated. This is the era of the PULL economy. Meaning, the customer actually has the power. They no longer accept the PUSH economy of the past, with minimal choice and input.

Feel free to do some research on this concept to educate your brain.
:2 cents:

It's not even worth your time, just let it go.

Paul Markham 04-25-2011 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 18084213)
As Walmart, among many other economists, have stated. This is the era of the PULL economy. Meaning, the customer actually has the power. They no longer accept the PUSH economy of the past, with minimal choice and input.

Feel free to do some research on this concept to educate your brain.
:2 cents:

In online porn, the distributor has dictated the market. By giving it away for free many customers have become free consumers.

There are no provable figures but from the vary beginning ratios showed 99% were consuming and 1% were buying. The customer only takes what is offered he can't "Create" the market on his own. If piracy hadn't of existed, iTunes would not of been created. The distribution of free created the need for music to change.

Walmart created a concept of cheap goods, which the customer responded to.

Customers respond to what distributors offer.

But you are side tracking the thread. The market has changed, the consumer is now offered free pre recorded average porn in a scene at a times many times as he feels like it.

So iTunes was the recording industry's response, Walmart's response to cheap over seas goods was their stores.

So what has the adult industry done?

It's stepped up the supply of free porn. :upsidedow

You're actually agreeing with me. The market has changed for the customer, he's become a free consumer. The problem is anyone who offers an alternative to giving away even more free porn is ridiculed.

How does online porn respond to the new market where the customer has more choice?

DamianJ 04-25-2011 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18083857)
It's utter foolishness to think that ANY out of touch WORKING guy is going to come up with a plan and then dictate to the World how they will consume porn. Changed it to make it more fitting.

I'm SO glad you've FINALLY stopped that lie about being retired.

Dirty Dane 04-26-2011 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18082553)
did you even read the link provided.

if i buy a chair (property) i can rent it out to other people, i can take it apart and rebuild it.

copyright law adds extra restrictions that prevent all the stuff i can normally do with property.

Ergo it about limiting property rights not defending them.

No, you cant upload a chair to tubes. Try again with a better comparison. :1orglaugh

Paul Markham 04-26-2011 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 18089402)
No, you cant upload a chair to tubes. Try again with a better comparison. :1orglaugh

You missed the real mistake he made.

He can buy a chair and own it outright.

He could buy music and own it outright, just not for $10. For that he only buys a license to play it with certain things allowed and other things not allowed.

He thinks Elton John makes a DVD for him for $10.

Which shows how stupid he is.

Paul Markham 04-26-2011 03:35 PM

Seriously GG you are not as bright as you think.

Elton John doesn't make an album so he can sell one and everyone can copy from that one.

Warner Bros don't make a film so someone can go into a cinema copy it and give it to millions for free.

And using your example of a chair. A chair manufacturer doesn't build a factory, employ people, design and perfect the chair and sell the chair to you.

So you can copy it and give it away for free or copy it and sell the copies.

They all do it for the mass market. So you can buy a ticket to see a movie for $10-$20 bucks and watch a movie that cost $20 million to make. Or buy a DVD for $10, that costs $100,000. Or buy a chair for $100 that costs $50,000 to create.

This is why I don't read your links and why the video I saw of the bike being copied is stupid.

A chair is property, music, film, programs, porn can be. But not for a fraction of what it costs to produce. For the price you pay, you buy the license to use, view or listen. Unless you steal it, then you get it for free and let others pay your contribution towards the manufacture.

Did you understand that?

gideongallery 04-26-2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18089467)
Seriously GG you are not as bright as you think.

Elton John doesn't make an album so he can sell one and everyone can copy from that one.

Warner Bros don't make a film so someone can go into a cinema copy it and give it to millions for free.

And using your example of a chair. A chair manufacturer doesn't build a factory, employ people, design and perfect the chair and sell the chair to you.

So you can copy it and give it away for free or copy it and sell the copies.

They all do it for the mass market. So you can buy a ticket to see a movie for $10-$20 bucks and watch a movie that cost $20 million to make. Or buy a DVD for $10, that costs $100,000. Or buy a chair for $100 that costs $50,000 to create.

This is why I don't read your links and why the video I saw of the bike being copied is stupid.

A chair is property, music, film, programs, porn can be. But not for a fraction of what it costs to produce. For the price you pay, you buy the license to use, view or listen. Unless you steal it, then you get it for free and let others pay your contribution towards the manufacture.

Did you understand that?

idiot that exactly the point

the movie doesn't exist as property therefore property rights don't apply

if property rights did exist content you WOULD have the same rights as a chair you bought

yes everything you said is a justification for allowing a business model NOT BASED ON PROPERTY RIGHTS

however nothing you said justify making up property rights for something that doesn't exist as anything but a service.

gideongallery 04-26-2011 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 18089435)
You missed the real mistake he made.

He can buy a chair and own it outright.

He could buy music and own it outright, just not for $10. For that he only buys a license to play it with certain things allowed and other things not allowed.

He thinks Elton John makes a DVD for him for $10.

Which shows how stupid he is.

do you even understand the law your talking about

you can't buy a song outright, when you buy the catalogue of a musician for example, your buying a exclusive "right" to a service (copying) not a property.

the outright ownership your talking about is really nothing more than another licience, the licience to licience.



that the point copyright and property rights are two completely different things

TheDoc 04-26-2011 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gideongallery (Post 18089591)
do you even understand the law your talking about

you can't buy a song outright, when you buy the catalogue of a musician for example, your buying a exclusive "right" to a service (copying) not a property.


that the point copyright and property rights are two completely different things

GG, myself and you may go at it at times, but truly save yourself the time with Paul. Cognitive thought isn't a skill set Paul has. You will bash your head against the wall trying to get him to even slightly understand you, it really isn't worth it unless you're just going to rail on him for being an idiot.


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