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Old 04-21-2011, 12:49 AM   #1
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You wonder why some of your traffic doesnt convert on camsites?! Really? Pics inside..








Tell me, would you pay for this?

First she wasnt there at all.
Then she looked like she had some bad cramps for a minute or 2-3.
Then she starts texting someone for another 3-4 minutes.
Then she starst typing on her keyboard, but nothing shows up (double camsite whammy).
Then.. she goes offline.

Note: not attacking the camsite in question, its hard enough screening your girls and checking if they are trying to make money (but can be done).
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:56 AM   #2
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Old 04-21-2011, 02:45 AM   #3
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Cam girls got the best end of the biz. (and I guess they deserve it)

Cam Girl = Work --> Collect Check

Affil = Work --> Pray

One has gauranteed (good) money for their time.

They walk in the door with 25% on the table to grab. You have to earn or find your 25%.

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Old 04-21-2011, 02:50 AM   #4
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Cam girls got the best end of the biz. (and I guess they deserve it)

Cam Girl = Work --> Collect Check

Affil = Work --> Pray

One has gauranteed money for their time.
When one has tits and pussy, one has guaranteed money whether they get it or not.
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Old 04-21-2011, 03:01 AM   #5
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When one has tits and pussy, one has guaranteed money whether they get it or not.
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Old 04-21-2011, 03:10 AM   #6
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Wouldnt affils like to be paid by the hour, or page, or 100 links or whatever. You work, you get paid.

I do a lot of work for zip as we all do.

How bout 3 hours of hard html or reloading 500 times or whatever =$35. hmmm that could fly in third world countries.*




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Jack - do you have any experience in doing the agent side of cams? I'm looking for some pointers on how to recruit girls.

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Old 04-21-2011, 07:51 AM   #11
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Them "customers" were far to pleasant.
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Old 04-21-2011, 07:54 AM   #12
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from shit talking you did in chat it is obvious you are not going to spend money

i am sure they have develop a troll / shit talker filter in their mind so as not to bother with such "clients" there to get off from insults to hot girls while not paying for time

probably also easiest way to get rid of troll is not to feed it...which is exactly what she did
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Old 04-21-2011, 07:56 AM   #13
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from shit talking you did in chat it is obvious you are not going to spend money

i am sure they have develop a troll / shit talker filter in their mind so as not to bother with such "clients" there to get off from insults to hot girls while not paying for time

probably also easiest way to get rid of troll is not to feed it...which is exactly what she did
Retarded fake nick is retarded.
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:28 AM   #14
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from shit talking you did in chat it is obvious you are not going to spend money

i am sure they have develop a troll / shit talker filter in their mind so as not to bother with such "clients" there to get off from insults to hot girls while not paying for time

probably also easiest way to get rid of troll is not to feed it...which is exactly what she did

This is correct. Performers also generally work more than one site and will of course concentrate on who they think is more likely to spend, and as B. Barnato says, your chat style was not the style of someone who wanted to spend money, more that of a bored office worker or schoolboy
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:50 AM   #15
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I guess you guys didnt read the part and see the pic where i said she wasnt even there the first 3-4 minutes.

If thats normal to anyone with a cam program im darn glad im not promoting them, no offense.

Not being there then sitting there looking down texting. Yep thats something i want to send a client to
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She most likely had chat hidden from non loaded accounts, so she couldn't even read anything you were saying. So she couldn't leave to use the restroom for 3-4 minutes? Yes thats normal for all camgirls, even the one you're currently promoting. She was most likely texting because as far as she saw there weren't any qualified spenders in her room.
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:58 AM   #17
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She most likely had chat hidden from non loaded accounts, so she couldn't even read anything you were saying.
true this also...

maybe this will educate resident expert of all things a little if he open his mind
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:59 AM   #18
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which program is this ?
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Is this you way out of choker's bet, queer boy?
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I guess you guys didnt read the part and see the pic where i said she wasnt even there the first 3-4 minutes.

If thats normal to anyone with a cam program im darn glad im not promoting them, no offense.

Not being there then sitting there looking down texting. Yep thats something i want to send a client to
YES,
Just like at a gas station, sometimes the clerk has to run and do something.
Some cam sites it is a hassle to log off and back on.
Some cam sites give ranking for amount of time on, like sorting the cam list.
Oh and some guys just dont care want to pay to see her get nude and or fuck herself.
Some guys do not need the sexy foreplay, infact some turn all sounds off, ha.
She might also be waiting for a scheduled app, or regulars come by.

Look, unless she works for you, don't worry, promote another girl on the cam site.
If the cams you are promoting only have a few girls, change cam sites.

If She doesn't make enough money to pay the bills, then they system will take care of itself.
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:07 AM   #23
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Camming is a draining job. You have to be "on" for hours at a stretch, for someone who may or may not have money to spend on you even after you talk to them and pose per their requests for ten minutes. Try doing that for 8 hours in a day and have endless people coming in asking for freebies and see how long you last.

I'm just sayin'.
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Oh, not sure if you were a "guest" or have a loaded account with funds.
But several cam sites, the Models can see how much money you have in your account.
If you have Zero, well you prob wont get their attention.
Sure there is a chance they could lure you in to load your account, but come on we all know Females.
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Cunts like you acting like a cunt in their rooms because you're a cunt?
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that's MoneyVerse aka needlive
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The loaded account arguement makes no sense to me.
Im sending them clients, new clients, if they click to thumbnails with online now on it and see an empty chair they are gone. If they are planning to pay the girl needs to be there luring them in instead of texting her mom.

Im starting to understand a bit more why so many camsites are struggling, no offense.
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The loaded account arguement makes no sense to me.
Im sending them clients, new clients, if they click to thumbnails with online now on it and see an empty chair they are gone. If they are planning to pay the girl needs to be there luring them in instead of texting her mom.

Im starting to understand a bit more why so many camsites are struggling, no offense.
I'm sure your visitor you sent could pick one of the 300+ other girls that was live at that moment. If the camgirls doesn't want to deal with chatting with a bunch of freeloaders she can filter them out, not sure what you don't understand about that. It then forces the surfer to upgrade his account in order to chat with her. How did you draw your conclusion that so many camsites are struggling?
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The loaded account arguement makes no sense to me.
Im sending them clients, new clients, if they click to thumbnails with online now on it and see an empty chair they are gone. If they are planning to pay the girl needs to be there luring them in instead of texting her mom.

Im starting to understand a bit more why so many camsites are struggling, no offense.
Most cam girls have NO idea affiliates are sending traffic, they think it comes from the camsite itself.
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The loaded account arguement makes no sense to me.
Im sending them clients, new clients, if they click to thumbnails with online now on it and see an empty chair they are gone. If they are planning to pay the girl needs to be there luring them in instead of texting her mom.
What do you expect her to do when the only person posting in her room is some cunt giving her a hard time? She doesn't go to where you work and slap the cocks from your mouth, does she?

I always assumed people giving a cam host a hard time like that were bitter, jealous members with a personal issue with the model. Now I see it's even more pathetic: bitter losers blaming anyone but themselves that the shit freeloader traffic they send doesn't convert.

Why would anyone who is interested in seeing a cam show leave a cam site just because a room has an absent model or the model is texting? It happens all the time. If they don't like a model they try a different room. IF they are interested in camshows.

Apparently though the traffic you are sending sucks big fat sweaty donkey balls and you have no clue what you are doing.

Rather than sending unconvertable traffic and expecting models to perform miracles with it, and blaming them for your failures, why not try targetting and sending people who are likely to be interested in cams and have an ability to pay for them?

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Im starting to understand a bit more why so many camsites are struggling, no offense.
If cam sites are struggling (really? seems to be more cam sites now than ever) it's due to lazy amateurs like you who think all you have to do is send piss poor untargetted freeloader traffic and the model will do all the hard work for you.

A valid cam performer question might be:

"You wonder why 99% of the guests in a room are freeloading, timewasting fuckwits with no ability or intention of paying?"

If there's 99 of the losers you send begging for a free show in her room and 1 camshow fan from an affiliate who knows what he is doing, guess which one she's going to spend her time and energy with?


TL;DR: Has a site called "Free Cams" and is confused about why visitors it attracts don't end up paying.

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My question is why are backing out of the bet with Choker?
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ha! Ive seen way worse. I had one of those "live" banners on my site and the model was either asleep or passed out on cam. Ill check to see if I still have the screen shot
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I guess i stepped on some peeps toes
So its ok to call someones traffic crap without knowing anything about my sites, but if a model isnt even there you get your panties in a twist
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ha! Ive seen way worse. I had one of those "live" banners on my site and the model was either asleep or passed out on cam. Ill check to see if I still have the screen shot
You'll hear about how hard life as a cam model is and people will tell you its all about your crappy traffic sam ;)
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I guess i stepped on some peeps toes
Not exactly, you just acted like a cunt towards that model, and maybe you do it to other models too. And instead of realizing you're a cunt for posting shit like that, you seem to think your posts are witty or insightful enough to take multiple screenshots and show them off to other people.

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The site in your sig is called Free Cams. Doesn't take Albert Einstein to work out what kind of person that is going to attract. Clue: not the kind who expect to pay. Same goes for your tubes.

Besides, you don't know anything about who that model texts or why, or why she's off cam, but you somehow think you're entitled, as a freechat loser with no intention of paying, to cry and bitch about about her calling her "pimp", like some psycho jealous boyfriend.

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No, clearly your traffic rocks. That's why you created a thread about how it doesn't convert.
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The loaded account arguement makes no sense to me.
Im sending them clients, new clients, if they click to thumbnails with online now on it and see an empty chair they are gone. If they are planning to pay the girl needs to be there luring them in instead of texting her mom.

Im starting to understand a bit more why so many camsites are struggling, no offense.
What camsites are struggling? You are so clueless. Only one struggling here is you. I see after two days down your cam site is back up. Great domain name btw , lol
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the ONLY pussy this guy has sniffed has been on the monitor and fish sandwhich on his keyboard...pleeease
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What camsites are struggling? You are so clueless. Only one struggling here is you. I see after two days down your cam site is back up. Great domain name btw , lol
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Guess you guys think freeporn.com isnt making money either lol. Funny how ignorant you guys are thinking you can attack me based on 1 single domain in my sig you REALLY think i'd be posting anything i dont want you to know in my sig. Seriously? Lol.

Talking about being wrong lol.

Get legendary samir on here you guys can have a retard party lol.
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you REALLY think i'd be posting anything i dont want you to know in my sig. Seriously? Lol.

Talking about being wrong lol.

Get legendary samir on here you guys can have a retard party lol.
Like your tube site with 20 minute videos - www.slytube.com ?
Or maybe that gf site you have with 4chan scraped pictures? What else you got there?
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Or maybe that gf site you have with 4chan scraped pictures? What else you got there?
Lol there he is haha, hows it going samir
Hows rick?

And to answer your question: i dunno, you tell me shercock homeless
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Lol there he is haha, hows it going samir
Hows rick?

And to answer your question: i dunno, you tell me shercock homeless
I know 2 guys namedRrick, none by name samir. Both doing good I guess.
So who does uploads to your tubes? Do you hire Indian boys or do it yourself little man? How much you making off that site? $5 a day on a good week? LOL, pissant.

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Guess you guys think freeporn.com isnt making money either lol. Funny how ignorant you guys are thinking you can attack me based on 1 single domain in my sig you REALLY think i'd be posting anything i dont want you to know in my sig. Seriously? Lol.

Talking about being wrong lol.

Get legendary samir on here you guys can have a retard party lol.
i'm not attacking you, i don't even know what sites you own. But your observations about cam sites bases on one bad experience with one cam girl on one cam site is far from resounding evidence to support your claims.

The fact of the matter is all cam sites have some chat host who aren't great. They all have some that may have to step away from the camera for a minute or at times might not be the most responsive. It's rare a potential cam customer will land on a cam site, not like the first girl and then just leave the site. Most of the time they browse around. Now if the selection of cam girls is small and they all suck and/or unattractive, don't know english and say shit like " hi bb, you like bb" then yeah, the potential customer will pop in a couple runs and thenleave and likely never come back.
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Old 04-21-2011, 11:45 PM   #44
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Lol there he is haha, hows it going samir
Hows rick?

And to answer your question: i dunno, you tell me shercock homeless
you have to love the fake nicks that have a join date of a couple months ago, 100 posts but yet jump into every convo and pissing match on here like they have been here for years. It's so easy to spot them when they do that. Just like that goldassets idiot. Joined this month, but is calling Theking "pathfinder". mmm yeah ok, you are new, but you know about shit that has happened here 8 - 10 years ago.

How many times can someone get banned and come back as a fake nick. No wonder the guy is using a proxy, probably because GFY blocked his ip.
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Recording, some girl's make me sick.
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No sites allow the cam to be blank by their rules but maybe the girl had to go pee in a hurry?

Camgirls (performers MF) are people too. They are less than perfect sometimes ...

Also the reality of this game is Splitcam or multiple computers with cams logged into 2 to 4 cam sites.

Another thing is all people like to be chated up in a friendly way. Not demanding show me your tits or pussy or piss in a bowl or shit in a plate.
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No sites allow the cam to be blank by their rules but maybe the girl had to go pee in a hurry?
Thing is nobody knows. That's a good enough reason, IMO, but there's a hundred others. Maybe someone came to the door. Maybe someone had just asked if she had heels or some outfit and it was in another room. Regardless, that's for the cam site to deal with however they choose, and not the business of any guest (or wannabe affiliate).

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Also the reality of this game is Splitcam or multiple computers with cams logged into 2 to 4 cam sites.
Which the OP knows, but he decided to have a lengthy tantrum about it because he wasn't getting any attention. Awwww. He even complains because, after blanking him completely, she goes offline. That's what he's really mad about. Notice how nobody else in the room has a problem with her?

There's nothing wrong with splitcamming, most sites allow it, but we don't even know if that's what she was doing. Maybe she was just posting on MSN to a friend or typing a URL or a search into Google. What a terrible crime.

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It even says right at the top "Be nice and kind to me and we'll have a fun time". Not really her fault if people like the OP come in who are too subnormal to understand what that means.
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Helter, get a clue bro. Your completely missing the point and you make yourself look more guilty and retarded everytime you post your emotions filled hatred about me.

Reread barrys post. You might understand what we are talking about here.
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