These people are actually quite lucky it is you and not me. I would have just signed up as my GF, sent the traffic and posted the results here for the top 10 or so sites by Alexa rating. At least you are letting them come out on whether or not they want to participate in the experiment.

You are so completely incorrect, c'mon man you know that is an old noobish statement don't you?

Paul you most likely know more about this industry than anyone in the thread but your methods and ideologies are clearly outdated. Or maybe you just have no experience in buying and converting traffic from a broker? I am no pro but I know for a fact broker traffic is not worthless. The way some of their systems are setup do cause the traffic to perform better or worse though.

What 99% of traffic brokers really need to work on is giving the buyer some kind of control over exactly what sites the traffic comes from and the methods used to drive the traffic. If it's all traffic from tiny vague links on a bunch of random sites then it's probably going to perform like shit.

I'm with you, why should someone be so kind as to ask if they can include a sponsor in their test? You're sending them traffic and you know what you're doing so if it doesn't work out then fuck them and their shitty cam site and post the results.

great thread...
would like to see the results...

I have a feeling I've been wasting my cam traffic for years now...

i have feeling that this thread is going nowhere.

Quoted for truth.

Agreed. So you would participate choker?
Lets get serious. I am.

I'll buy 100k from different brokers. You may choose what camsite i will be promoting, you may choose the kind of traffic, i will buy identical traffic from all 5, 100k each.

I will post screens of everythinh, and i will give you access to to the camsites account so you can verify it.

How bout it, lets get it on the road? Or are you chickening out yet again?

makes it more interesting. :thumbsup

step forward cam companies! i'll sign up at the winning site! =)

I've got a UK site with a very UK orientated billing mechanism that works well, can I just buy some UK cam orientated traffic from you? I think I used to buy a fair bit off you before, but that was before we had all our cam stuff

Of course I'm game. But one thing, brokers have different prices so make it a set amount of money for each broker, so hits sent by each will be different but same amount of money spent. Let me know when you have the funds deposited with the other 4 brokers. I'm thinking for us uk ca au you will need to deposit $400 with each.

I'm thinking to do PPS and giving weekly updates

Choker can I BUY 100,000 at the same time as the other 5 cam sites?

I've only got RevShare model so let's set the cap at 2 months, I don't mind making all the profit!

I'm in! Playa #6! Unofficial entry!

Thats 2K. Kid is going to pawn his bicycle, ps3 and all of his princely possessions to come up with that much money.

Thread delivers, congrats to Choker for getting business.

Sounds like a plan, so now we have the first site. First things first, since I accepted Frisky's challenge how about we make your site the one he sends the $2500 worth of traffic from 5 different brokers too? Since your the first cam site to accept this challenge I think we should do this. Frisky did say I can pick the camsite. He will signup as a affiliate with you, then make 5 different campaigns, 1 for each broker, this way we can tell which broker sends the most signups. Since this is a public test I'm sure Frisky would not mind you posting the results.

well this is getting very interesting! can't wait for some results...

Yes of course, just icq me 116894466 thanks

Same here.
I have a feeling dutch queer boy is going to find some sort of excuse to back out of it, so hopefully someone will take on this challenge. I really want to see how adult broker traffic works. All jokes aside its been doing horribly for me.

Just woke up here and saw this thread....

Hey add us to your list we'll take the traffic and have no problems whatsoever with your posting the results on here. We don't have PPS but do offer 30% Revshare for the LIFETIME of the customer. That's lifetime as in the rest of this year, all of next year, the year after that, etc., etc. You also get 60% of any VIP purchases the member makes.

We've been in this game since 2001 and in our experience revshare is the better way to go. We deal with mainly Asian cam models and say what you will about comparing them to their western counterparts, but the simple fact is - they're addictive as hell.

So go ahead.....add us to your little mad scientist experiment and send us the traffic to http://www.asians247.com which is our main flash-based site. We also have custom white labels, live embeds, iframes, etc. but you asked for the regular site link so their you have it. Sign up as an affiliate to get a tracking code and set a campaign ID to it and you'll get paid on any sales you make same as anyone else does. Keep in mind you'll also see any free joins you may get and never discount these as often times guys might not buy right away and sometimes do so after testing out the free chat for awhile. Come back here and post the results.

Good stuff. :thumbsup

100 webcam experts...

Just weighing in here a bit because I see a bunch of choker bashing going on and I sometimes get tired of seeing shit.

Back a couple of years ago I was setting up a site, pushing out to various cam sponsors. I bought a little tiny bit of feeder traffic through Choker, I think I spend a whopping 25 or 30 bucks all together. I was new to it, had never bought traffic before so I hit up choker and got a little guidance on what I should buy. Because it was cheap feeder traffic I did not expect much from it but ended up getting a few sales off it, so the traffic ended up paying for itself plus some.

So, I have nothing bad to say about choker or his traffic. If I was still doing sites or if I start putting some up again, I will be going to choker for the traffic to get things started up.

Thats just my :2 cents:

Okidoki!

So 5 different brokers, and i spend $400 on each one.
You will need to be a bit more specific on the kind of traffic though so we make sure we dont get into a "thats different traffic" after all this is finished.

I will post a thread looking for some brokers, if they dont reply within a day, i will ask you and let you choose which broker you want me to sign up to and buy from them.

Another thing, i will need a new account on your brokersite. Can i just go ahead and make that, or do you want to do it for me?

How do you want the brokers to send the traffic btw. I can either setup a whitelabel on a new domain, or we can ask the brokers to send it straight to the affiliate reflink.

Im not sure which site you where talking about there, although i had hoped you would choose one thats established and converts. You said you had experience with getting your traffic to convert which i doubted. Lets make sure we dont get into an "well that site is new, bad, doesnt convert, doesnt have the right content etc etc" arguements afterwards.

Lemme know, you can always hit me up on icq, i think i unblocked you :thumbsup

Just buy from the brokers everyone talks about on gfy. They are not going to reply to a post of yours and voluntarily do this. Brokers buy traffic from each other, I"m probably the biggest traffic buyer there is. Why would they want me to look bad or vica versa? What your gonna find out after wasting $2000 is that all brokers traffic is about the same. But it's your contest so do as you want. The page needs to be a random online now free teaser chat. Don't need a whitelabel keep it simple. And needlive is a established site

So your saying broker traffic is a waste of money anyways?
Not sure where you are heading??

Yeah... I was wondering the same thing when I read that, Jack.

Always the manipulitive bitch lol. Make the deposits lets get this going.

and that would be a good reason to do revshare over pps. HOWEVER not a good thing to do if the point was to do a "test" to see which cam program was better because it would be more to do with luck then which one was actually better.

Ermm, not much different ways i can go with your post bro.

backpedaling, bitch? Suddenly he's your "bro".
Just buy it and go.
Put your money where your .. Well, you don't have the money, so what ever.

It's not nonsense at all. A customer won't spend money with just any cam girl. He will instead look around to chat with different girls, or come back the next day or the day after that if he liked the site enough. He might also make a "date" with her and request that she come back on at a certain date and time, wearing a costume or bring a specific toy.

Don't forget there are other factors too. "Today", his card might be maxed out, or perhaps his family members are around, or he might just not be in the mood. There are alot of things that must line up before a customer will be ready to purchase chat time with a model and you have to allow some time for this to occur. For us, it has been typically about 15 sign-ons, meaning as an average, people who will become customers, will sign on about 15 times before converting. An affiliate looking to make money should find a website who takes time into account, and pays you for customers who might convert a month from now, and not just today.

Hi Choker, we have a cam site in our program. We're game! :)

No thats not at all what I said. Here's another way to look at it.

The cost per acquisition (CPA) from affiliate traffic is very high compared to the CPA of other forms of traffic.

To gather the attention of affiliates, a company has to offer large commissions, usually on rev share, create lots of tools, throw big parties at trade shows, etc etc. That's fine if you're a big company but if you're a small company that cost is significant. PPC and other forms of traffic simply makes more sense for us.

Stop backpeddling, you know who the most popular 4 brokers are other than me, signup for needlive, find the random online now url, make 5 different campaigns, submit those urls for approval at the 5 brokers, then deposit $400 at each. It's pretty simple. And yes make a new account at my system, only payment method I will accept from you is paxum or wire. No credit for you.

Hi Lagcam,

I agree for the most part, however even if all customers know how chat sites work, they would still take the time to purchase.

What is wrong with our site is something that has been plaguing us for a while now. Russian and Romanian models who (a) Refuse to talk by voice, (b) Ignore customers, (c) do a shit job. The girls don't understand that they are both the content and the sales person for that content.

What's good about our site are some of the other models from Canada and the US who go out of their way to make customers feel free good about joining the site and spending a little cash. These are the girls who hook the customers and keep them happy enough to stay and stay and stay. These girls convert about 1:15, while the russian girl's conversion rates suck.

Hi Choker,

We had been doing our own internal tracking which is what I was basing my findings on, although I thought we did try an affiliate link as well, but it might have been with another traffic provider.

And yes, I would like very much for you to manage our orders next time. If you're offering this service, I'll take you up on it.

+1:thumbsup

Where did little Jurgen go? I thought he was going to buy traffic and try webcams?

I dont have paxum, do you accept mastercard?
Btw. to make it even more fair, i will load it with 400 and YOU manage the traffic the site will get. We dont want to get into an arguement about me selecting the wrong kind of traffic right.

I will start with your traffic. Then you can choose the next broker after yours is done.

Fair enough right? Agreed?

Now your trying to change the deal, I expect this from you. No I will not take mastercard from you. Your such a big player you dont even have paxum? And absolutely no, you will send all 5 brokers traffic at same time, to send at seperate times would lead to excuses. Look boy, either put up the money or be bitchslapped for the 1000th time on GFY.

You have basically changed the direction of this thread now your backing out? Fuck you

Back on track, we have two sites ready for this test. Need three more. Who's game?