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alias 04-14-2011 04:22 PM

I vouch for media. Top notch, stand up guy.

Agent 488 04-14-2011 04:24 PM

why anyone would feel bound by an nda from a thief and scammer and who is responsible for destroying one's personal and business reputaion is beyond me.

alias 04-14-2011 04:26 PM

How many c&d or lawyer letters did you get last year? People are lawyered up.

media 04-14-2011 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18058066)
why anyone would feel bound by an nda from a thief and scammer and who is responsible for destroying one's personal and business reputaion is beyond me.

Because if you go around breaking NDA with people, then who the hell would ever want to work with you again and tell you their industry secrets and such? What I learn while at a company stays with the company after I leave..

Hell, I'm still under NDA with Falcon Foto .. If I violate that I owe them $50,000 as a part of the settlement that I cannot talk about in detail. Thats up in a couple years.. then I can talk about it..

Sometimes there is a price to pay for violating the agreement, and dates that you must follow.. but I guess all the armchair lawyers on GFY know everything..

goldassets 04-14-2011 04:53 PM

media is a good dude, too bad he got wrapped up into the Jason Forrest vortex.

DWB 04-14-2011 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Farang (Post 18057526)
So when is kmanrox is coming back?

Everyone will be back. Look at ePass. They all went somewhere else and it's as if nothing happened.

All the blame always hangs on one person, who mysteriously rides into the sunset with the money while their staff knew nothing about anything.

This one is especially good though because not only will all the staff find their way back, but ALL the sites are online still with a new company, yet no one has been paid. That's as awesome as it gets and that is exactly why people do this shit. Because they can.

I've said it 100 times. It is absolutely impossible, no matter how bad you fuck up or how big of a criminal you are, YOU CAN NOT FLUNK OUT OF PORN.

All you have to do is come back, sped a few days getting kicked around on the boards, and it's back to business as if nothing happened.

I love porn.

alias 04-14-2011 05:00 PM

Porn 4L.

DWB 04-14-2011 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 18058127)
Porn 4L.

Fuckin'-a right. :thumbsup

Just Alex 04-14-2011 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by media (Post 18058013)
You got something you wanna say to me then hit me up on icq, I'll give you my phone number.. I'll gladly wait for your call.. Go ahead and tell me how you feel.. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, you have absolutely no clue.. You wanna get all cynical you can go fuck yourself.. Act like you know me and what I did or do when I disappeared.. You ever think I was so fucking depressed that this shit happened that I have not talked to people and now I'm finally coming back? That my name is completely fucking ruined in this business now and my credibility will have to be earned again? You think you know what the fuck happened with me and trey, and Porn Kings?? I was at NichePay, then Girls Gone Wild as VP over there before going over to SOBV.. You're missing pieces of the puzzle.. You're a god damn idiot.. It took me years to build up what I built up.. You're the type of person that sits and talks shit about others to feel better about his shortcomings.. ... Keep talking buddy... Keep chasing the dream..

I'll wait for your icq for my phone number..

Cry me a fucking river. He was depressed... Grow a pair. Come out here and call me an idiot without even knowing who I am. Fuck you!
Give me your email so can send you e-card and tell you how I fucking feel about your child support and anxiety disorder. One thing for sure is that I will never promote another program that has your name on it.

Just Alex 04-14-2011 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by media (Post 18058079)
Because if you go around breaking NDA with people, then who the hell would ever want to work with you again and tell you their industry secrets and such? What I learn while at a company stays with the company after I leave..

I bet you learned a lot at sobv. Make sure you pass that knowledge over to your next employer.

Just Alex 04-14-2011 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18058118)
Everyone will be back. Look at ePass. They all went somewhere else and it's as if nothing happened.

All the blame always hangs on one person, who mysteriously rides into the sunset with the money while their staff knew nothing about anything.

This one is especially good though because not only will all the staff find their way back, but ALL the sites are online still with a new company, yet no one has been paid. That's as awesome as it gets and that is exactly why people do this shit. Because they can.

I've said it 100 times. It is absolutely impossible, no matter how bad you fuck up or how big of a criminal you are, YOU CAN NOT FLUNK OUT OF PORN.

All you have to do is come back, sped a few days getting kicked around on the boards, and it's back to business as if nothing happened.

I love porn.

I am waiting for Chris Malick to pop up any moment and tell us his sobbing story about divorce and child support problems. Maybe we can sponsor another one of his movies so he can get back on his feet.

GTS Mark 04-14-2011 07:07 PM

Welcome back Media, keep your head up bud! :)

media 04-14-2011 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18058385)
I am waiting for Chris Malick to pop up any moment and tell us his sobbing story about divorce and child support problems. Maybe we can sponsor another one of his movies so he can get back on his feet.

Lol .. is this JNA Alex? Or some other Alex who thinks they really know me?? I sure seem to have gotten your goat somehow.. YOU make a thread about ME, calling ME out.. and you keep going and going.. I think we should talk buddy.. give me an icq shout.. I'll give you my phone number so we can talk... You wont touch anything my names connected to eh.. Interesting.. We'll just move past that.. And I'll ask you this.. Do you think I really give a shit if you promote it? I am not even doing anything thats connected to managing affiliates any longer..

I am sure I got you paid at Epic Cash, and I'll prolly get you paid somehow even after this whole SOBV thing.. Or maybe I know someone who cuts your checks currently? Hmm.. not connected eh.. Interesting..

baddog 04-14-2011 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18058066)
why anyone would feel bound by an nda from a thief and scammer and who is responsible for destroying one's personal and business reputaion is beyond me.

He isn't bound. He chooses to be. Not that it matters, he can do nothing to help you or anyone else taken advantage of.

media 04-14-2011 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 18058513)
He can do nothing to help you or anyone else taken advantage of.

Exactly.. If I could have, I would have by now..

GonZo 04-14-2011 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 18058072)
How many c&d or lawyer letters did you get last year? People are lawyered up.

Did they send em registered mail or have them emailed to you?

Just Alex 04-14-2011 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by media (Post 18058489)
Lol .. is this JNA Alex? Or some other Alex who thinks they really know me?? I sure seem to have gotten your goat somehow.. YOU make a thread about ME, calling ME out.. and you keep going and going.. I think we should talk buddy.. give me an icq shout.. I'll give you my phone number so we can talk... You wont touch anything my names connected to eh.. Interesting.. We'll just move past that.. And I'll ask you this.. Do you think I really give a shit if you promote it? I am not even doing anything thats connected to managing affiliates any longer..

I am sure I got you paid at Epic Cash, and I'll prolly get you paid somehow even after this whole SOBV thing.. Or maybe I know someone who cuts your checks currently? Hmm.. not connected eh.. Interesting..

No, you didn't get me paid at Epic, someone else did. Because from what you're saying, you were nothing but a piss stain working for those programs. Otherwise you would have got me paid at your last job.
When shit hit the fan with JJ I would have expected you to come out and say "Hey, not me. I was just doing the grunt work".. Instead you turtle like a mother fucking pussy a chose to be depressed and shit for 10 months. Hundreds of people were looking for some kind of an answer, even if it was "pull your links guys, it over".. I would have had so much respect for you than. Now you come with pansy ass shit about you alimony, kid and bills to pay. I don't give a flying fuck what problems you've got, just like you dont give a fuck about mine. You're a cool guy, I know that. I've sent you emails when you worked with epic, and I don't blame the downfall on you. What bugs me the most is that instead of saying "hey, remember me, let me tell you how I feel and whats my take", you come out like nothing ever fucking happened calling me idiot and stuff. All forgotten to you I guess.

And that sig of yours doesn't help you at all..

media 04-14-2011 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18058602)
No, you didn't get me paid at Epic, someone else did. Because from what you're saying, you were nothing but a piss stain working for those programs. Otherwise you would have got me paid at your last job.
When shit hit the fan with JJ I would have expected you to come out and say "Hey, not me. I was just doing the grunt work".. Instead you turtle like a mother fucking pussy a chose to be depressed and shit for 10 months. Hundreds of people were looking for some kind of an answer, even if it was "pull your links guys, it over".. I would have had so much respect for you than. Now you come with pansy ass shit about you alimony, kid and bills to pay. I don't give a flying fuck what problems you've got, just like you dont give a fuck about mine. You're a cool guy, I know that. I've sent you emails when you worked with epic, and I don't blame the downfall on you. What bugs me the most is that instead of saying "hey, remember me, let me tell you how I feel and whats my take", you come out like nothing ever fucking happened calling me idiot and stuff. All forgotten to you I guess.

And that sig of yours doesn't help you at all..

I never said I was depressed.. I said "What if" .. I moved on.. I'm sick of this business and the way people get treated in it.. Its been too long that I've done what I've done, and at the end of the day now I have jack shit to show for it.. And if I am not mistaken I made SURE you were paid and contacted people to sort out your issues with some bonus revenue when it went wrong.. I directly called and did the handling of that to make sure it hit a on a deadline.. So I was no Peon.. I've been the fraud department for 20+ programs, dealing with affiliate fraud all of the time and paying people out upper $XXX,XXX figures every month.. When I was told NO MORE It was time for me to leave those programs.. Eventually shit will come to the light.. It always does..

This industry is gonna be in one fucking world of hurt when all of the shit that's gonna come down on it happens.. Im not talking no chicken little shit.. I'm talking real troubles that mean the end for 60-80% of this business.. I guarantee it... It will be bigger than visa and mc changing their cb limits, 2257, epassporte and ibill combined.. not many will make it at all..

I respect those who give a little respect back.. This thread you started was an attack basically calling me out.. Those who have contacted me privately that I know have gotten a little insight into what my decisions were based on.. Details that are not covered in my NDA.. I have been coming back to gfy for months, I have just not posted anything until recently because I didnt want to deal with the bullshit, and I've really had NOTHING to say.. I have plenty of other shit to worry about.. Im not gonna stress myself out over it.. After 12 years in this business I've known one, nothing is certain... shooting the messenger gets you KNOWWHERE...

alias 04-15-2011 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GonZo (Post 18058570)
Did they send em registered mail or have them emailed to you?

Both, some are scams though.

SomeCreep 04-15-2011 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by media (Post 18058690)
This industry is gonna be in one fucking world of hurt when all of the shit that's gonna come down on it happens.. Im not talking no chicken little shit.. I'm talking real troubles that mean the end for 60-80% of this business.. I guarantee it... It will be bigger than visa and mc changing their cb limits, 2257, epassporte and ibill combined.. not many will make it at all..

what are you talking about man? just say it.

BAKO 04-15-2011 03:17 AM

What the fuck does Media have to do with your shit. Why don't you man up and go find JJ.

DWB 04-15-2011 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18058385)
I am waiting for Chris Malick to pop up any moment and tell us his sobbing story about divorce and child support problems. Maybe we can sponsor another one of his movies so he can get back on his feet.

Be careful what you wish for. Once Mallick totally flunks out of Hollywood, he'll be back.



Quote:

Originally Posted by media (Post 18058690)
This industry is gonna be in one fucking world of hurt when all of the shit that's gonna come down on it happens.. Im not talking no chicken little shit.. I'm talking real troubles that mean the end for 60-80% of this business.. I guarantee it... It will be bigger than visa and mc changing their cb limits, 2257, epassporte and ibill combined.. not many will make it at all..

2012 :upsidedow

Just Alex 04-15-2011 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by media (Post 18058690)
I never said I was depressed.. I said "What if" .. I moved on.. I'm sick of this business and the way people get treated in it.. Its been too long that I've done what I've done, and at the end of the day now I have jack shit to show for it.. And if I am not mistaken I made SURE you were paid and contacted people to sort out your issues with some bonus revenue when it went wrong.. I directly called and did the handling of that to make sure it hit a on a deadline.. So I was no Peon.. I've been the fraud department for 20+ programs, dealing with affiliate fraud all of the time and paying people out upper $XXX,XXX figures every month.. When I was told NO MORE It was time for me to leave those programs.. Eventually shit will come to the light.. It always does..

This industry is gonna be in one fucking world of hurt when all of the shit that's gonna come down on it happens.. Im not talking no chicken little shit.. I'm talking real troubles that mean the end for 60-80% of this business.. I guarantee it... It will be bigger than visa and mc changing their cb limits, 2257, epassporte and ibill combined.. not many will make it at all..

I respect those who give a little respect back.. This thread you started was an attack basically calling me out.. Those who have contacted me privately that I know have gotten a little insight into what my decisions were based on.. Details that are not covered in my NDA.. I have been coming back to gfy for months, I have just not posted anything until recently because I didnt want to deal with the bullshit, and I've really had NOTHING to say.. I have plenty of other shit to worry about.. Im not gonna stress myself out over it.. After 12 years in this business I've known one, nothing is certain... shooting the messenger gets you KNOWWHERE...

Oh, so now its my fault that I didn't contact you privately and I call you out here. Right, please let me fucking apologiseand send you some money to your ex-wife. So fucking sorry that your feelings got hurt here kid, let me throw you some fucking RESPECT just because you didn't want to deal with BULLSHIT here for 10 months.. Not you're a free to go.
Fuck ya, you worked in a FRAUD department. Let me pull my pants down, bend over and thank you for it. But when I ask you what happened with MY fucking money, you give me a load of pansy ass crap about your ex, fiancé and some kid I couldn't give rats ass about. So you go worry about other shit and good luck finding another job that pay you to keep your mouth shut and buy enough blow to stay depressed for 10 month. :321GFY

Just Alex 04-15-2011 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAKO (Post 18058940)
What the fuck does Media have to do with your shit. Why don't you man up and go find JJ.

Why dont you shut the fuck up.
One more pissant that has nothing to do with failed business and has non disclosure agreement.

media 04-15-2011 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18059227)
Why dont you shut the fuck up.
One more pissant that has nothing to do with failed business and has non disclosure agreement.

You keep ragging on my ex and my child.. which makes you a total douchebag.. And uh.. Blow??? That shows that you really THINK you know me.. You don't, I have never used cocaine or anything like it.. Why dont you icq me and give me your phone number or I'll give you mine, we can talk... I've told you 2-3 times now to hit me up and you wont.. all you're showing me and everyone else here is that you're obviously chickenshit..

Man up and do it... Or shut your fucking ass up once and for all..

Oracle Porn 04-15-2011 08:32 AM

Alex can we be friends? or do some biz together? I like you, icq me :)

Roald 04-15-2011 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 18058926)
what are you talking about man? just say it.

This.

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MrDeiz 04-16-2011 07:49 AM

it's just too fucking hilarious
it was ok once you recruited new members into scam jj and you as a part of his crew have been running

and now those 'touching' posts...
lol just lol on you and everyone who got scammed at the end. well deserved

Agent 488 04-16-2011 10:53 AM

that is true. at what point do you cross over from being an "employee" to an accomplice?

- LOL - 04-16-2011 11:06 AM

pay up :321GFY

AaronM 04-16-2011 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18059568)
This.

.....


As connected as you appear to be, I'm pretty surprised you don't know what he's talking about.

Agent 488 04-16-2011 11:33 AM

jj was a con. everyone around him thought they were on it as well.

joke is he burned them all in the end.

sucks to be you. no one will ever trust you again.

MrDeiz 04-16-2011 11:42 AM

this threads needs some ppl which actually got their cc's scammed by sobv programs and guys sending them traffic - those who owe money and those who is owed look like the same scammers for them

AaronM 04-16-2011 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy (Post 18062672)
those who owe money and those who is owed look like the same scammers for them


Could you translate that into something that makes sense and repost?

candyflip 04-16-2011 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 18062660)
jj was a con. everyone around him thought they were on it as well.

joke is he burned them all in the end.

sucks to be you. no one will ever trust you again.

This is how I see it.

BAKO 04-16-2011 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 18059227)
Why dont you shut the fuck up.
One more pissant that has nothing to do with failed business and has non disclosure agreement.

FUck you and what you belive in. :321GFY

Just Alex 04-16-2011 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by media (Post 18059398)
You keep ragging on my ex and my child.. which makes you a total douchebag.. And uh.. Blow??? That shows that you really THINK you know me.. You don't, I have never used cocaine or anything like it.. Why dont you icq me and give me your phone number or I'll give you mine, we can talk... I've told you 2-3 times now to hit me up and you wont.. all you're showing me and everyone else here is that you're obviously chickenshit..

Man up and do it... Or shut your fucking ass up once and for all..

You are the one that brought you child and wife in, not me. Did you ever ask me about my problems and how much money I lost to JJ ? Fuck no..
Man up.. what is there to man up to? I already heard everything I needed from you. What else you got to say? Another sobbing story about debt collectors ? What can you possibly tell me that would change my mind about you? Nothing. Absolutely nothing! So drop you internet tough guy attitude and look for another gig so you can pay your bills and not whine on message boards about being victim.
Too late for you to man up. Should have done it 10 month ago. Who is chickenshit eh?

Fuck it, give me your number now and Ill give you a call. Let me hear it.


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