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  • blackmonsters
    Making PHP work
    • Nov 2002
    • 20993

    #1

    Hey Gideongallery! Come in here and explain it to us!

    Gideongallery has much to say about how producers of content are not adapting to
    the internet. He says that websites should be able to upload and broadcast other
    people's content without paying fees(fair use) and this should benefit the content
    producers and webmasters.

    He sees nothing wrong with a tube site showing full length movies that they
    ripped from members areas of pay sites and that the pay sites need to
    change the way they do things and benefit from this.

    So Gideongallery, please give everyone here the method by which to do this.

    Lets take a simple example and have you explain the way to adapt it into a success.
    If you are right then you should have no problem giving us the answer and we
    will follow your advice and STFU forever because you were right all along.


    Here is the example :

    - I own six pay sites with a total of 10,000 scenes
    - All my scenes have been uploaded to youporn, redtube, etc...
    - None of the tubes link back to any of my pay sites
    - My pay site network currently gets only 2% of the traffic volume as a single tube
    - I'm not getting any signs for memberships
    - I'm not going to make the tubes take down the content, I'm going to adapt


    Ok that's the scenario. Now please lay out a comprehensive plan of action
    that will allow someone in the above scenario to adapt and become profitable to
    recover all the investment at 300% (spend $1 get back $3)


    This is not a troll, I really want to know the solution that you have.
    You must have a solution or why would you make the claims that you do.

    Tell us how to adapt and we will do it.

    Thanks
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  • Agent 488
    Registered User
    • Feb 2006
    • 22511

    #2
    two words: branding bugs.

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    • Grapesoda
      So Fucking Banned
      • Jul 2003
      • 46234

      #3
      is there a way to waterermark on vid with bug on the 'download'?

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      • blackmonsters
        Making PHP work
        • Nov 2002
        • 20993

        #4
        Originally posted by Agent 488
        two words: branding bugs.
        2 words is not very "comprehensive".

        Many people here have no idea of what a "branding bug" is, including me.
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        • AdultKing
          Raise Your Weapon
          • Jun 2003
          • 15601

          #5
          Originally posted by blackmonsters
          2 words is not very "comprehensive".

          Many people here have no idea of what a "branding bug" is, including me.
          a bug is the little logo you see in the corner of tv programs

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          • Agent 488
            Registered User
            • Feb 2006
            • 22511

            #6
            you would be better studying why and how people upload vids all day with their watermark and how they convert those type-ins and url searches.

            people are spending time and capital on it for a reason.

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            • Mutt
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Sep 2002
              • 34431

              #7
              Gideon's a typical know it all who's never done anything in his entire life yet they're experts.
              He'll respond in generalities, vague ideas he's read somewhere such as 'branding bugs' 'product placement' etc having no idea if it's viable and what kind of money it could bring in. Has no idea about the costs of producing content.

              He won't take you up on your challenge because he is clueless about the economics of anything other than the allowance his parents give him. he probably doesn't even understand that, most likely he's a spoiled kid who doesn't even have to bother with budgeting what he spends, his parents just pay for everything little Gideon wants.
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              • L-Pink
                working on my tan
                • Mar 2005
                • 39151

                #8
                Originally posted by AdultKing
                a bug is the little logo you see in the corner of tv programs
                Is it called a bug because it bug's the shit out of viewers?

                .

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                • BlackCrayon
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 19634

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Agent 488
                  you would be better studying why and how people upload vids all day with their watermark and how they convert those type-ins and url searches.

                  people are spending time and capital on it for a reason.
                  don't all the major tubes remove the watermarks and replace with their own?
                  you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                  • Agent 488
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 22511

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                    don't all the major tubes remove the watermarks and replace with their own?
                    no ........... maybe in some cases but not really. still plenty of watermarks and people put their url in the video title as well.

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                    • JFK
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                      • Jan 2002
                      • 67369

                      #11
                      What, no Gideon yet ?

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                      • blackmonsters
                        Making PHP work
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 20993

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Agent 488
                        you would be better studying why and how people upload vids all day with their watermark and how they convert those type-ins and url searches.

                        people are spending time and capital on it for a reason.
                        First, I asked gideongallery not you.

                        Second, putting a logo on a video is already done and obviously it's not doing
                        enough to stop the complaining.

                        Third, I asked for a "comprehensive plan of action"; you have not provided one
                        in your post yet.

                        Fourth, maaaaaaaaannnnnnn....plz STFU
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                        • Agent 488
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 22511

                          #13
                          Originally posted by blackmonsters
                          First, I asked gideongallery not you.

                          Second, putting a logo on a video is already done and obviously it's not doing
                          enough to stop the complaining.

                          Third, I asked for a "comprehensive plan of action"; you have not provided one
                          in your post yet.

                          Fourth, maaaaaaaaannnnnnn....plz STFU
                          whatever man i gave you the answers on how people are making money off tubes in reality but whatever.

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                          • blackmonsters
                            Making PHP work
                            • Nov 2002
                            • 20993

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Agent 488
                            whatever man i gave you the answers on how people are making money off tubes in reality but whatever.
                            You didn't answer shit except tell us to do what we already have been doing for years.

                            STFU.
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                            • TheDoc
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 13827

                              #15
                              The answer is rather simple... start getting traffic from different locations that aren't looking for free movies. It's not like the entire Internet visits tubes or you could contact the tubes and start working with them directly, so many options, endless really.
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                              • Alky
                                Confirmed User
                                • Apr 2002
                                • 5651

                                #16
                                Maybe it's time to stop expecting a 300% return...

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                                • rogueteens
                                  So fucking bland
                                  • Jul 2006
                                  • 8005

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Agent 488
                                  no ........... maybe in some cases but not really. still plenty of watermarks and people put their url in the video title as well.
                                  most of the minor illegal tubes do and of cause, its very common to see a black bar in the corner overlapping the original watermark and having a dot thumblogger subdomain atermark overlaid on top.
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                                  • blackmonsters
                                    Making PHP work
                                    • Nov 2002
                                    • 20993

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Alky
                                    Maybe it's time to stop expecting a 300% return...
                                    I don't what business you ever invested in where you stayed in business for more
                                    than a year with less than 300%; unless you were borrowing all the investment money
                                    from banks on a quarterly or annual basis.

                                    If you have $1 in your pocket and invest it and a year later get back $2;
                                    then you have $2 in your pocket. Now you invest $1 again for the next
                                    year and now you have $1 in your pocket; which is exactly where you started a
                                    year ago.

                                    WTF are you working for.....your investment?????

                                    You ever hear those statistics where that say the average business fails
                                    in the first two years? The above scenario would be exactly why.
                                    You can't do "double the money" with your own money.

                                    That shit don't work, but people keep trying it and wondering why they seemed
                                    successful but ran out of money anyway.

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                                    • pornguy
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                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 62910

                                      #19
                                      Interesting to see no reply so far.
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                                      • blackmonsters
                                        Making PHP work
                                        • Nov 2002
                                        • 20993

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by pornguy
                                        Interesting to see no reply so far.
                                        Maybe he's taking his time to write a truly comprehensive plan that cannot be
                                        disputed.

                                        I hope so.

                                        I'm interested.
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                                        • czarina
                                          Webmaster Extraordinaire
                                          • Jul 2002
                                          • 10751

                                          #21
                                          I completely disagree with full length videos on tubes. That's why we removed all download options from our sites

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                                          • TheDoc
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Jul 2001
                                            • 13827

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by pornguy
                                            Interesting to see no reply so far.
                                            His shift ends in like an hour or so...
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                                            • woj
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                                              • Jul 2002
                                              • 47880

                                              #23
                                              What you are asking is like asking how to be successful at selling VCR players...
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                                              • Ravage
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                                                • Mar 2007
                                                • 2242

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by pornguy
                                                Interesting to see no reply so far.
                                                Like Doc said, he's still working at his day job at Canadian Tire.
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