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Seems like they have been for decades:
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keyw...20Books&page=1
Surprised someone clearly as bright as you didn't know that.Comment
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[QUOTE=Paul Markham;18055720]To be fair to him he's an amateur shooter working on a tight budget. I doubt if he's ever had any real training in shooting porn or erotic.
Which sort of sums up a lot of shooters here.
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Because I think differently and do not share the same views on the erotic, photography or video production does not necessary mean that I have not been trained, or do not have experience.
Do you have any professional training ?
Do you have any professional qualifications?
Does "Industry Professional " Ameglia How any ?
It is easy to criticise a photo, to say how it would be so much better if blah blah blah
Better to put up a picture you think is better, and then we can judge for ourselves.Comment
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I've done a better T-Shirt design.
Pretty good hey, will do more soon. Having fun.Comment
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Which proves once again you are clueless when it comes to porn.
Those are not porn, those are softcore watered down R-Rated "oh looky what scandalous books we have lying around" said the yuppy wanker.
I am talking PORN. Hardcore penetration uncensored *money shot* Coffee Table Porn Books, not an "R Rated Look At An X-rated Industry"
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Awesome. Let's argue about the definition of porn! That will be fun.Which proves once again you are clueless when it comes to porn.
Those are not porn, those are softcore watered down R-Rated "oh looky what scandalous books we have lying around" said the yuppy wanker.
I am talking PORN. Hardcore penetration uncensored *money shot* Coffee Table Porn Books, not an "R Rated Look At An X-rated Industry"
Listen, try and make it less obvious when you are jus' trollin'. Otherwise people might actually think you're as stupid as you're pretending to be.
HTH
Damian
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This thread is classic.
A bunch of shooters talking shit about each others work and claiming to be better than the others.
Grow up fella's. You're all brilliant in your own unique ways
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I've asked you before and you didn't answer then: If you have no idea who you are talking to or what they do or what their qualifications are, where do you get off talking about how superior and innovative and new you are? First of all, it makes for incompetent traffic begging on your part. Secondly, there is nothing new or innovative or positive about pretending to be a woman making porn and using common but nonstandard photographic techniques to shoot bored and irritated-looking mainstream adult talent.
You seem to think that comparing your favorite shots of your own snapshots to a random automated thumbnail is reasonable. It really just shows, once again, that you are an arrogant loser who only dabbles in this business so he can walk around feeling superior to those around him.Comment
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i have no clue about photography, cannot shoot and yet we sold content for millions of USD. beat that.
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[QUOTE=AmeliaG;18060171]Dear young lady,
I am not writing a book. I do not post here as the master. Paul Markham does. He also brags about you cannot learn from books, that you can't change lenses on a DSLR and other such rubbish.
Some of the points he made about better quality would improve paysites income I agreed with until I saw what he means by better.
Now As this is called "Fucking Around etc" I think it is fair enough that I post what I think. Now him and others have called my photographs bad, and then all I did was post some pretty shitty looking pictures of their main pages. I would also point out that the photos I choose to represent my work are just from routine galleries. I thinl people can judge for themselves.
Now the other game being played here is...I am the best photographer, and when someone points out a rather poor picture, its "I am not a photographer I am pornographer" or look at how much money it made....
Now if it is discussion about photography, come clean from where are you coming from?
Now if people set themselves up as experts I think it is ok to ask them on what basis...
A degree in photography from a good school, prizes from internation competions, experience on a wide range of photographic projects,,,,that would be good, it would be worth listening to such a person....
If the sole basis is they have been photographing weddings for the last 20 years for example then we know on what basis the person speaks.
Again I do not pretend to be a woman. Although the majority of work has been done by woman on Cinema Erotique, sound, set design, make up and of course the models are woman ( except the male models )
We do not see ourselves as a women's site but we are on a woman's cable TV in a few european countries, we see ourselves as try to be a little more thoughtful about the erotic than the standard blow job, fuck her squirt her in the face porn....
We thought what we would do would be of interest and yes e-mailed you hy hand. We were wrong...
Two years later and you are still whinning on about it...
One would think the DUSK cable channel would also be of interest to you as it is trying to reach a new audience of women. All you could moan about was the Alexia rating of the website - duh ...
As an intelligent person you also know that most people in a capitalist society are losers, most of my friends are losers, in fact the nicest people I have met are losers... in fact the winners in this country - the bankers we all want to hang from the lamp posts.
Anyway here is a typical porn film made by me just for you with all American girls
BarbiesWashday
I think I got some warm human acting from these American Models...
They say they are going to show it at the Good Vibrations Festival in SF...Comment
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Really, you hand emailed dozens of my sites with your arrogant nonsense about revolutionizing porn because you thought we were such a great match? What made you think your self-centered dishonest work would be of interest to me and what made you think quite so many of my sites needed to be made aware of it? You were doing all that by hand, yet it was too hard to stop repetitively begging me for traffic, until I filed a complaint with your host?
Does Good Vibrations know you are lying about being a woman?
You think having people want to hang you from a lamp post makes you a winner? No wonder you behave the way you do.Comment
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I'm able to tell it by looking at your pictures.Because I think differently and do not share the same views on the erotic, photography or video production does not necessary mean that I have not been trained, or do not have experience.
33 years of it.Do you have any professional training ?
Do you have any professional qualifications?
Does "Industry Professional " Ameglia How any ?
I linked you to tons on Google Images, if you're not able to learn from them. Then there is no hope for you.It is easy to criticise a photo, to say how it would be so much better if blah blah blah
Better to put up a picture you think is better, and then we can judge for ourselves.
Here are loads more.
http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl...&aqi=&aql=&oq=
http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl...&aqi=&aql=&oq=
http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl...&aqi=&aql=&oq=Comment
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Arsewithclass has models who claim he wont pay them. Read his pathetic excuse here http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17...&postcount=102Comment
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Arsewithclass has models who claim he wont pay them. Read his pathetic excuse here http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17...&postcount=102Comment
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Arsewithclass has models who claim he wont pay them. Read his pathetic excuse here http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17...&postcount=102Comment
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OK can we stop having a go at Cherry and get this thread back on track. He's a very easy target and clueless.
So What would you like to read in an E Book about shooting porn?Comment
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Thanks for the bump Damian.
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the biggest issue for you is going to be your market... you shoot Euro girls and have for 20+ years... ? well Euro models and American models are VASTLY different in almost every possible way... other than having the same 'girly parts' there is no similarity what so ever.
I'm pretty sure won't believe anything I have to input on this since I haven't been a top magazine shooter for 33 years... blah blah blah... but this is a known fact for sure by those of us that have shot both 'brands' of models...
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You will need a page about the author...
Born....
Studied at the university of photography and porn production...finished with BA, MA ? Bsc ? etc
Has a degree in Marketing from the London School of Busines
Has won the following prizes for photography and video making, XBIZ etc
Has taught xxxxx at the the school of xxxxxx for x years
Is a member of the elite British Society of XXXXXX?
Has worked for
Won prizes and distinctions for work on
His hobbies are Czech cinema of the 60s and cabbage growing.
And he lives in the lovely town of Brno with his beautiful Czech wife.Comment
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I had no idea porn surfers looked at photographer CVs before taking a risk and tugging one out. Excuse me if I don't go sign up for any MAs in arse gaping or fuck of and join the British Society of Master Cunt Photographers, I'm busy this week SHOOTING PORN.
Whatever you or anyone else says about Paul he has made and sold a fuck ton of porn.
Nothing else matters.
Read the book, decide for yourself it's any good.
And you say Brno like its a bad thing. But then, you've never fucking been, so what the fuck would you know? Oh that's right. Your opinions count for so much more than anyone's direct experience. Bit like the shootings of porns really.Comment
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Already covered that part. I have shot in CA and in NY, so had experience with US models. They tend to be more confident and assertive than UK girls who can be a it slutty, CZ girls are more compliant, less apprehensive than both but have a far more open mind to sex. Hungarians can be a bit too money motivated at time. Polish girl can be great, but can have a very guilty streak due to their Catholic upbringing. This is also a problem with Italian, Spanish and Filipino girls, Thai girls are very very reserved. Hover don't judge the girls working as prostitutes or strippers by the rest of the Nations female population.the biggest issue for you is going to be your market... you shoot Euro girls and have for 20+ years... ? well Euro models and American models are VASTLY different in almost every possible way... other than having the same 'girly parts' there is no similarity what so ever.
I'm pretty sure won't believe anything I have to input on this since I haven't been a top magazine shooter for 33 years... blah blah blah... but this is a known fact for sure by those of us that have shot both 'brands' of models...
The biggest problem today is the access to free porn by girls classmates, brothers, friends, family and neighbors. This has made many girls who would of come into published porn less willing. They tend to go for more discreet and better paying adult work. Stripping, lap dancing, escorting.
Also don't judge all the girls doing this by what turns up on casting from these professions. In general these are girls who haven't made the grade in those jobs and looking for other incomes. This industry needs the cream of girls to sell well. These girls can earn a lot of money in other avenues of Adult Sex Work.
BUT and it's a big but. When dealing with people there's no hard and fast rule. What might well work with one girl will fail totally with her twin sister.
The kind of girls and personalities who would happily work for Micheal Ancher would not be any way suitable for Max Hardcore. So again the variation is what are you shooting, BVF porn or Twistys porn?
Don't try to teach your Dad to suck eggs sonny.
Will do so Simon.You can mail over the 27 basic poses any time you get a mo.Comment
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My Brother is in his 4th year and will soon take his Masters Degree in Photography. He shoots great pictures that I would be proud of.
He will never earn a penny from Photography, like the rest of his class.
My niece did the same in Art Uni. She now works for a charity company and nothing to do with art.
My cousin went to Drama College, graduated with degrees. Works for a holiday company.
I left school at 14. Worked as a chef and dress designer/pattern cutter until 27. I was trained as a pattern maker in dress manufacturing. Never earned a great deal in those 2 job.
Became an untrained salesman selling office furniture. Sold millions of pounds worth, to the end user, sometimes in one sale. In 1980s I was earning 6 figures a year. GBP not $. Quit to be a pornographer because I was earning more at porn. Another job I had never been trained to do.
I reckon a Million men a month were spilling seed over my pictures, EVERY MONTH. For years and years. Not sure if they give out diplomas for that.
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http://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=17621161#post17621161My Brother is in his 4th year and will soon take his Masters Degree in Photography. He shoots great pictures that I would be proud of.
He will never earn a penny from Photography, like the rest of his class.
My niece did the same in Art Uni. She now works for a charity company and nothing to do with art.
My cousin went to Drama College, graduated with degrees. Works for a holiday company.
I left school at 14. Worked as a chef and dress designer/pattern cutter until 27. I was trained as a pattern maker in dress manufacturing. Never earned a great deal in those 2 job.
Became an untrained salesman selling office furniture. Sold millions of pounds worth, to the end user, sometimes in one sale. In 1980s I was earning 6 figures a year. GBP not $. Quit to be a pornographer because I was earning more at porn. Another job I had never been trained to do.
I reckon a Million men a month were spilling seed over my pictures, EVERY MONTH. For years and years. Not sure if they give out diplomas for that. Comment
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Why do they have those cover notes on books about the author ? Could it be so that we know that they are not talking nonsense?
Like Paul Marhams believe that you can't change lenses on a DSLR.
It is interesting how you praise ignorance and delight in lack of culture.
I say
"lovely town of Brno"
You say
"And you say Brno like its a bad thing. But then, you've never fucking been, so what the fuck would you know?"
I say
Brno is a lovely town, I have been there, therefore I know. I wrote what I mean.
You are happy being ignorant, it does not bother me, but don't go judging other people, keep your ignorance to yourself.
making money is important but not everything, Coke may make more money than friut juice, it does not make it better.Comment
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Hi Kettle,
I said "You shouldn't change the lenses on a DSLR." And gave reasons.
You wrote I said "you can't change lenses on a DSLR"
Oh yes you can, just don't do it unless it's very necessary.
Which makes no difference to the Ebook, which is about porn, not photography.
Making money from your hobby of photography probably isn't important. Making money as a professional pornographer is very important.
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What you really said was ....Hi Kettle,
I said "You shouldn't change the lenses on a DSLR." And gave reasons.
You wrote I said "you can't change lenses on a DSLR"
Oh yes you can, just don't do it unless it's very necessary.
Which makes no difference to the Ebook, which is about porn, not photography.
Making money from your hobby of photography probably isn't important. Making money as a professional pornographer is very important.
Welcome to my ignore list.
As for lens. Never change a lens on a digital camera, it results on dust on the chips and spots on the image. I thought you would know all this.
Also you have said;
My job is photographer and managing director.
And you say your book is about;
What do you need.
Equipment, props, locations,
How to use the equipment.
How to practice with the equipment so you do not look foolish and get the best from your models.
Lighting.
Technique is everything when shooting, here I will tell you how to be master of the equipment, build your technique using it and find out before you start paying expensive models how to benefit from mistakes.
And of course
Looking professional
But not being professional, because that would mean reading something....
All your criticism of other peoples pictures is in pseudo photographic babble, when your pictures are published without comment you claim they were just done for the cash.
You can understand that being called "clueless" by you is a complement.Comment
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Thanks for the bumps trolls.Comment
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How's the pretend ebook going?
I had a thought whilst shitting just now...How's this for a title:
"How to get away with requesting _____ from your staff"Comment
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Do you have a publishing date ?Comment
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Paul, do you need any help with the layout of this pdf?
Isn't your made up publisher hassling you to finish it?Comment
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Paulie?
People are keen to find out when this lie, I mean book will come out!
BUMP FOR THE PDF!Comment
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