Michele Bachmann: Welfare Queen

[BFT3K]

Michele Bachmann has become well known for her anti-government tea-bagger antics, protesting health care reform and every other government ?handout? as socialism. What her followers probably don?t know is that Rep. Bachmann is, to use that anti-government slur, something of a welfare queen. That?s right, the anti-government insurrectionist has taken more than a quarter-million dollars in government handouts thanks to corrupt farming subsidies she has been collecting for at least a decade.

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http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/...ueen_20091221/

[PornoMonster]

This is going to be interesting.

[jimmy-3-way]

Originally Posted by PornoMonster

This is going to be interesting.

No it won't, everyone knows politicians are hypocrites, move along.

[directfiesta]

The baggers can`t read ... so no harm done.

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

The baggers can`t read ... so no harm done.

[candyflip]

The real kicker would be if she was receiving subsidies to NOT grow on her land.

[Gouge]

First, barring some evidence of Michele Bachmann?s participation in operating the family farm beyond it being managed by her father-in-law, I?m not sure it?s fair to hold her accountable for these subsidies.

Second, let?s not pretend like farm subsidies are always optional. Farming, much like any business, is a competitive enterprise. That enterprise has long been distorted by government involvement in the agriculture markets in the form of subsidies, regulations, mandates, etc. For many farmers, taking subsidies isn?t a choice. It?s a part of business. If you want to keep up with competitors you have to take subsidies or go out of business.

This is a bit like saying that people who are on Medicare can?t be against government health care. As though Medicare were a choice and not a government program we?re all forced to participate in by penalty of law.

But the liberals love these games. Their goal is government dependence, and they love that Americans often find themselves in situation where they?re forced, either by circumstance or law, to participate in the very programs they oppose. So they can obfuscate the opposition to these programs and they ill they do with cries of ?hypocrite.?

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Gouge

As though Medicare were a choice and not a government program we?re all forced to participate in by penalty of law.

Where do you get this from? Sure people are forced to pay into it with their taxes but no one is forced to use it.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Gouge

First, barring some evidence of Michele Bachmann?s participation in operating the family farm beyond it being managed by her father-in-law, I?m not sure it?s fair to hold her accountable for these subsidies.

Bachmann?s financial disclosure forms indicate that her personal stake in the family farm is worth up to $250,000. They also show that she has been earning income from the farm business, and that the income grew in just a few years from $2,000 to as much as $50,000 for 2008.

so much for accountability ....

Originally Posted by Gouge

Second, let?s not pretend like farm subsidies are always optional. Farming, much like any business, is a competitive enterprise. That enterprise has long been distorted by government involvement in the agriculture markets in the form of subsidies, regulations, mandates, etc. For many farmers, taking subsidies isn?t a choice. It?s a part of business. If you want to keep up with competitors you have to take subsidies or go out of business.

A real bagger would say " go out of business " ... isn't that what they said about GM ....
Let the free market play .... no ?

" taking subsidies isn?t a choice " .... for many low income families, that also is not a choice ... to survive ...

[Gouge]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

so much for accountability ....
A real bagger would say " go out of business " ... isn't that what they said about GM ....
Let the free market play .... no ?

" taking subsidies isn?t a choice " .... for many low income families, that also is not a choice ... to survive ...

Shes in a LP with her Husband and the rest of his family, what are they going to do...defer taking profits made by a company they are invested into for the past 35 years. Further more this story is 15 months old and a non-issue. According the her congressional financial disclosure records there is no wrong doing involved here. Thus the reason why the story dead panned so fast...BFT3K is just to dumb to realize that.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Gouge

Shes in a LP with her Husband and the rest of his family, what are they going to do...defer taking profits made by a company they are invested into for the past 35 years. Further more this story is 15 months old and a non-issue. According the her congressional financial disclosure records there is no wrong doing involved here. Thus the reason why the story dead panned so fast...BFT3K is just to dumb to realize that.

It is not a question of wrong doing .. It is perfectly legal and no fraud is involved... aside from a moral fraud that gov should not be involved in subsidusing businesses as per the Tea Patrty and her top representative, Michele Bachmann ...

If she is so convinced of getting the government out , she could start by her own farm...

This is as morally corrupt as Obama accepting the Peace Nobel Prize ....

[BFT3K]

http://www.alan.com/2011/03/31/gma-u...rty-hypocrisy/

[VikingMan]

The Tea Baggers are controlled by the same criminals who control the repukes and demotards. The concept is called "controlled opposition" and has been around for a long time but most people are too dumbed down to be able to comprehend it.

[IllTestYourGirls]

it has been known for sometime she is a sham.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Gouge

Second, let?s not pretend like farm subsidies are always optional.

Yes they are. She CHOOSES to get the government handout.

This is a bit like saying that people who are on Medicare can?t be against government health care. As though Medicare were a choice and not a government program we?re all forced to participate in by penalty of law.

if you're over 65 and you rather pay your doctor bill with cash and not use medicare you can CHOOSE to do that.

But the liberals love these games. Their goal is government dependence, and they love that Americans often find themselves in situation where they?re forced, either by circumstance or law, to participate in the very programs they oppose. So they can obfuscate the opposition to these programs and they ill they do with cries of ?hypocrite.?

Please if this was a "liberal" we were talking about you'd be on his/her ass. If anyone is a hypocrite it's you. Please dcontinue to support a party that wants you out of business and in prison because porn is "evil"

[Bill8]

well, the interesting question is, how much of the total of agricultural subsidies did the republicans try to cut from the budget?

Anybody know?

Depending on what you call subsidies, the feds subsidize between 8 to as high as 35 billion for agriculture. About 8 bil for direct subsidies, the rest in insurance and support and disaster relief and the like.

How much of that did the republicans cut, or try to cut?

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Bill8

well, the interesting question is, how much of the total of agricultural subsidies did the republicans try to cut from the budget?

Anybody know?

Depending on what you call subsidies, the feds subsidize between 8 to as high as 35 billion for agriculture. About 8 bil for direct subsidies, the rest in insurance and support and disaster relief and the like.

How much of that did the republicans cut, or try to cut?

ZERO. Are you crazy Republicans, have a caucus in Iowa in less than 10 months. Only an idiot would start talking about cutting farming subsidies. Anyone NOT wanting to get the GOP nomination would talk about doing away with those.

Here's the facts. No one's pork is pork. It's everyone else's pork is pork and needs to be cut. So guess what no one's pork gets cut.

[mynameisjim]

Impossible. People who speak out the most loudly against something are never themselves guilty of that same thing.

The same way Pastors and politicians who speak out against gays are never outed as gay themselves. It just never happens.

Obama's mom and an official from Hawaii must have gone back in time and signed Michelle Bachmann up for those subsidies so they could discredit her in the future. That's the only reasonable explanation.

[2MuchMark]

Michele Bachmann is another dizzy dumb fuck just like Palin. She's completely misinformed about just about everything. Dizzy, dizzy, dizzy.

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by mynameisjim

Impossible. People who speak out the most loudly against something are never themselves guilty of that same thing.

The same way Pastors and politicians who speak out against gays are never outed as gay themselves. It just never happens.

Obama's mom and an official from Hawaii must have gone back in time and signed Michelle Bachmann up for those subsidies so they could discredit her in the future. That's the only reasonable explanation.

That sounds about right. Damn time machines!