More Affiliate Fraud...

[Sharky]

I picked up a new one today, before he did too much damage.

user: Foxfire
Company Name: Foxfire8 Pty Ltd
Name: Kouser parveen
URL: http://WWW.DUMPSTERSLUTS.COM
Email: [email protected]

Recent address changed to:

House No 409/BV Muhalla Thala Noor
Jahania Near Ahmed Puri Gate
BWP, Punjab
Pakistan



I do not believe this account to be really held by the company mentioned above. As noted in previous fraud posts, one method these scamming affiliates use is to sign up with falso information of a legit company, and then after a week or 2 of sending small traffic to log in and change the Pay-to information to somewhere else.

[u-Bob]

thnx for the heads up

[CashOnClick]

Every affiliate from Pakistan that I have had sign up has always been fraudsters, so I just ban them as soon as they join now... I'm sure there must be some honest one's out there somewhere.

[BJ]

OMG thank you for saving all of us. That Pakistani address will save the whole world lots of trouble

[BJ]

Every affiliate from Pakistan that I have had sign up has always been fraudsters, so I just ban them as soon as they join now... I'm sure there must be some honest one's out there somewhere.

no dude, some of them are legit. Be careful!!!

[Sharky]

Every affiliate from Pakistan that I have had sign up has always been fraudsters, so I just ban them as soon as they join now... I'm sure there must be some honest one's out there somewhere.

Yeah, the affiliate originally signed up with an address that checked out in Australia to get approved. After a week or so he changed the address to Pakistan.

OMG thank you for saving all of us. That Pakistani address will save the whole world lots of trouble

It might not help you, or anyone else for that matter. But I have benefited from fraud affiliate posts here before and wish to contribute my own. Kindly Fuck off.

[NickB.]

before I approve shady accounts like that I always make them add: dumpstersluts.com/nick, if they cant do it, not even approved

[Sharky]

before I approve shady accounts like that I always make them add: dumpstersluts.com/nick, if they cant do it, not even approved

Yeah, I've done that too. but it didn't look too shady originally. the name/address matched all the checks i normally do on signup. but with the Pakistan address change I knew it was fraud right away. fortunately only a few transactions were processed before then, and I was able to refund them before chargebacks came;-)

I sent you an ICQ Nick, lets talk biz;-)

[TurboAngel]

Good thing you're on the job.

[BJ]

Kouser Parveen! you dumbfuck, we will all gather together and hunt you down and kill you! Thank you Sharky for pointing out this nearly undetectable potential fraud!

[Ross]

We simply do not accept webmasters from Countries like this.

[BJ]

Actually, I need to make an apology to this thread.

As it turns out, Kouser Parveen keeps a villa in Australia during the summer. Which is the winter for the most of us. So it makes things confusing.

Kouser Parveen spends his winters (the summers for the rest of us) in Pakistan so prefers his payments there.

Sorry Kouser Parveen.

[PR_Glen]

Yeah, I've done that too. but it didn't look too shady originally. the name/address matched all the checks i normally do on signup. but with the Pakistan address change I knew it was fraud right away. fortunately only a few transactions were processed before then, and I was able to refund them before chargebacks came;-)

I sent you an ICQ Nick, lets talk biz;-)

yeah, we have a different name for the same company in our system but all looks legit from our end... sneaky fuckers...

[TeenCat]

so what did he do? only cause he is from pakistan and you think his info is fake?

[signupdamnit]

Sadly I wouldn't be surprised if there are more scammers signing up to programs now than there are real affiliates. I'm starting to understand why many programs are manually approving new applications.

I have a few ideas (possibly good ideas for NATS?). Could you set up a phone verification system such as what Craigslist and Google uses to verify accounts? The new affiliate gets a callback which reads off a 3 to 5 digit number. The affiliate has to enter the number to verify it. Perhaps the same thing except using snail mail might work to verify the postal address as well (prior to sending the first payment via any payment method). At least you will know they are probably located where they say they are and it will make it harder for the same assholes to hit programs over and over again. As an affiliate I would not consider any of the above to be intrusive at all.

[PR_Glen]

We simply do not accept webmasters from Countries like this.

to clarify this is correct what i found was an australian address.

[V_RocKs]

NATS can make it so these people never even get to sign up.

[BJ]

Shit

Kouser Parveen just icq'd me.

He wanted me to clarify so noone thinks he's some fraud. He spends his Pakistani WINTERS at his SUMMER villa in Australia, which is winter for the rest of us.

and when its WINTER in Australia he spends his Pakistani SUMMER in PAKISTAN.

He also sends his best regards to paxum.

[Sharky]

so what did he do? only cause he is from pakistan and you think his info is fake?

Aside from what I already mentioned, the sales sent through the account are using stolen CC's.

yeah, we have a different name for the same company in our system but all looks legit from our end... sneaky fuckers...

Yeah, thats what I thought. foxfire8 owns a ton of domains, including the dumpstersluts. I believe they are mailers.

Sadly I wouldn't be surprised if there are more scammers signing up to programs now than there are real affiliates. I'm starting to understand why many programs are manually approving new applications.

I have a few ideas (possibly good ideas for NATS?). Could you set up a phone verification system such as what Craigslist and Google uses to verify accounts? The new affiliate gets a callback which reads off a 3 to 5 digit number. The affiliate has to enter the number to verify it. Perhaps the same thing except using snail mail might work to verify the postal address as well (prior to sending the first payment via any payment method). At least you will know they are probably located where they say they are and it will make it harder for the same assholes to hit programs over and over again. As an affiliate I would not consider any of the above to be intrusive at all.

Good ideas, but I think a phone verification system would be too costly #1, and #2 it could be circumvented just like they do with Craigslist. PimpRoll has the right idea by personally approving each account, which we do. They are quite a bit larger than I am though, so they see a lot more fraud attempts I am sure.