adult is dead....it's not, however...

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Then this asshole came along and made a site where people spend most of their time online updating a stupid fucking "status", instead of jerking off to some HD porn they paid for with their CC...





Fuck you!

omg.... hahahahahahahahahaha

As I have said in many other threads, people are still sitting on the same business model that existed when I started 15 years ago.

Tour, Subscribe, Content Area + Affiliate Programs which took off around 2000

The model is old, the surfers are disinterested and more savvy about how to get your content for free.

So what's the solution ? Entertain and engage the surfer , don't just throw a members area at them.

The reason why we made so much 15 - 10 years ago was that there were less sites and high demand. Filesharing hadn't really taken off, tubes weren't even dreamt about , even YouTube as we know it now is only 7 or 8 years old.

There is a huge amount of free content around, content doesn't sell like it used to because there is (a) so much of it cheap or free and (b) it's more readily available.

What's the solution ? Interactivity and engagement. Passive sites don't cut the mustard anymore.

i see you are doing 1:14 ... not bad for fucked up industry

more savvy..... sure, the real problem is the "free content" part, not that there is free content available but the amount and even decent quality that is available now in every niche you can think off!

and 99% of "porn' surfer know that

So what's new ? This isn't limited to this industry. I watch TV shows now that take years to make it to Australia, content is slushing around everywhere, music, tv, movies, porn etc

If there is a copious amount of ready content to take the time of the consumer and provide them less time and inclination to sign up to paysites based on a 15 year old model, then what the fuck does that tell you ?

For an industry that led the way forging e-commerce, content delivery, affiliate marketing systems and drove much innovation in video, programming and web standards there seems to have been a rapid shift from innovation to laziness and utter fucking stupidity!!!

If you hit your finger with a hammer you are careful not to do it again because it hurts, but most of this industry is doing everything that hurts and not learning from it.

Dont blame Facebook, dont blame Nathan/Manwin, blame your fucking selves for being so fucking dumb! Do something new for fucks sake.. these threads frustrate me , I am sure that there are some smart people left in this industry, perhaps they can lead the way because the masses seem to want to shift blame to some other problem rather than the fact that they are too stupid to try something new.

we are the champions...

6-8 years ago, your ratios were better than 1:14?

slow down mate..

never said it was limited to this industry, but i don't see many bands or movie studios giving away free CDs/DVDs or uploading new releases on the net!

no argument there

like giving away "to much" free porn? agree

didn't even know how to spell facebook or manwin till you brought it up

It would help if some content owners removed the bajillion cyberlocker links to their content.

translation... "i have to actually put in time now to make money and there are more serious competitors then 5 years ago. big business (tubes) are 'stealing' my customers and instead of developing sites and ideas on how to get visitors to convert to a customer, ill just sit around and hope big box adult store closes down."

How do you think those small town businesses feel when a WalMart comes in? most people sit outside of walmart and protest (as most here are bitching about tubes) while others come up with more creative ideas to keep customers. Sure, business isnt as easy as it was before with customers just walking in with money in hand, but they now have to actually try and use more tools, such as creative marketing, etc.

BTW, same people in mainstream bitch about how its 10x or 100x harder now then 5 years ago. No shit, there was a lot more smaller guys back then and traffic was a lot easier to convert then now.

adult is not dead, people are still making shitload of money in adult.