It's not your traffic once you send it to an affiliate code. It's the sponsors traffic. You need to realize this.

The key is to find the sponsor that pays you MOST for the traffic you send.

I'll say it again, once you send your traffic through an affiliate code, it's no longer your traffic. The more money the sponsors make from your traffic, the more money YOU will make.

Although, I do agree with you on one thing, I'm not real keen on 50/50 programs that are pushing other sponsors through their pop-ups. But, if they pay me good per click, I'm happy.

Guys, so please, if I want to join collegefuckfest, where should I signup, with WSB or CCBill? What's the difference for this program?

I'd say try them both and see wich one converts best, and rebills best :)

I like wsb best because I have yet to see a signup on my ccbill account, but on the other hand, wsb declines 50% of my rebills this month so hopefully that will be better on ccbill.. Best thing would be to just try what works for you :)

And offcourse..ccbill does have webmasters refferal so if you sign up i wouldn't mind you using my reffcode :Graucho
Collegefuckfest - CCBill

Cheers:)



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Yep it has to be fixed. I think everyone tolerated it for a bit on the basis of CCBill being tested.

My major concern is that cookie affiliate variables are not being passed correctly. Has anyone tested this out?

I would just like to mention after seeing your Cashforlink URL...

Cashforlink are total fucking filthy thieving assholes. Their entire site is stolen. Check out this long ago thread:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=77268

You may want to have something different in your sig.

Shoplifter... If thats true it realy sucks :(

Newer had problems with payment or anything at japan bukkake, the site is obviusly still up, and i don't see anyone from the mentioned sites in the tread, so might aswell be the other guys ripping cashforlink off (not saying that it isn't true but not proven to be eigther is it?) do you know how all this ended, did any more happend about it ?

Still.. thanks for the warning, I'll surely be carefull with them from now on :)

CCF saw no reason to respond? Sign up under ccbill if you are signing up as I got a rebill there. Still waiting for first sale so the rebill was nice. I had a sale on WSB almost a month ago so maybe it rolled over? I think I will switch programs as that button is an ugly deal. Going to look at other people's sign up page.

Chris told me on icq that he was going to look why that link was there.
Didn't hear back yet.
I want full credit for my traffic and this seems like a pretty big leak.

Have done the same with both WSB and CC Bill. WSB Rebills badly for me. CC Bill seems to rebill fairly ok.

However i get more with the WSB 100/60 offer. Traffic still converts well, but rebills just aren't happening. Not off a tiny bit of traffic either :winkwink:

That extra join button is a little odd though. Will keep an eye on my stats.

Cheers!

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...justpetite.com

Whens this going to be fixed?


A surfer clicks thru besides getting hit with the entrance blur... They click thru the tour to the join page...They decide to not join or browse back thru the tour and are hit with a discount pop-up to join... Great you say more chance for the affiliate to make a sale... Only problem is that instead of it going to CCbill discount... it is going to WSB. :mad:

Hey guys....

This issue has finally been addressed. I sincerely apologize for not jumping on this sooner, however I had to wait for some feedback from the Asthma and Paolo.

What you guys called a traffic leak was indeed a leak, but it has now been removed. It was never our intention to get signups that webmasters referred and not give them credit for. In fact, our attention has been focused entirely on getting more signups from referrals from our webmaster based on us adding a 2nd processor. Now you can use either WSB or CCBill and we're confident in both processors. Use whichever one gets you the best results. The CCBill signup option was intended to test signups from WSB declines as they happened.

If anyone has anymore questions or concerns, feel free to contact me. I am always here, as you know.

The problem here is a Prisoner's Dillema.... CC Bill's great customer service but harder scrub rate vs. WSB's easier processing but hideous customer support.

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I just spoke to Paolo a few minutes ago. He is in Florida and doesn?t have internet access. Although he is busy with deals that would make CFF convert even stronger, and he has not read this thread, he was concerned enough about it to mention it to me.

The CFF CCBill Partner Program setup is relatively new. The mentioned link was not there to purposefully take your traffic?.it was a carry over, an oversight from the initial stages of the implementation?and once it was brought to their attention, it was immediately corrected.

Evil Chris has run an outstanding program for years and Triplexcash?s treatment of referrers has always been impeccable. Paolo is very highly regarded by many people that I know, as well as myself. Until now, I had not heard any of this questioned by anybody.

It would be a very poor decision to risk all of that for a few ?unreferred? sales. They run a 50/50 program, their partners make money, they make money. They have done this for years and they will continue to do so.

Reputation aside, how many sponsors do you see that elect to go through the hassle of giving their partners a choice of billing companies to use?

As for the conversions, the last of a few small issues with their setup were worked out last week and I expect that if we revisit this issue in a few weeks, you will find a thread with plenty of pleased webmasters.

Point being that they are good guys. If you have any issues with them, it takes nothing more than an email to resolve them.

Glad you brought it to their attention. It WAS an issue that needed to be delt with. Once again Evil Chris saves the day.
Upstanding guy! Three cheers man.
Lets hope things go back to normal quick. Its time to start burning somemore bandwidth. :thumbsup

later,
Ray

If you have a specific issue or problem with the way that you have been treated please post it or email it to me and I will sort it out for you. It's really very unfair to go posting sweeping statements with little else to back them up, and it does me no favours; if I don't get accurate feedback I can't fix it. Ultimately we should be on the same side, that of making money together.

Regarding the scrubbing I doubt you're in any position to understand how either CCBill or WSB scrub transactions. I will guarantee you one thing, we both do better with different types of traffic, so take CFF's and everyone elses advice, shop it around and see what works for you.

Thank-you for your understanding, now all webmasters that own pay-sites & run referral programs should follow CFF directions & we will be all happy & making money. With this all said let me put your banners up again on my sites.... :thumbsup

Been pretty happy with the performance of WSB with CFF (apart from when I pulled serious traffic from tgp). They have done quite nicely for me, but I still don't have a cheque in my hand, so I suppose I still have to wait see.

Can anyone explain the odd payment cycle WSB uses? Is it monthly, bi monthly, do they hold it back for a month? Noone seems to know for sure, and my email has gone unanswered.

Cheers!

Dugmor
I tried herfirstgangbang.
Got 20+ trials the first day but only like 10% converted into a full month.
Your sites look pretty good and the same goes for the content so I wonder how come that only 10% converted into a full month.

I'm sure that Robert Nice (CTO Websitebilling) will be happy to re-enter this thread and clarify that question for you.