Re-read my post. I don't care who the bigger threat is...they are still a threat. If you don't think Sodom is a threat, you're an idiot (whether because of oil or biological weapons, doesn't matter). Look at what he has done to his own people. Does he like us? No. Is he creating something that could potentially devostate us? Yes. Would he use it in a second? Yes.

And all you fucks who says it's about oil...it may very well be. If so, good. My biggest cost in this business is content. I would hate for my electrical bill to supersede it.



Iraq is a 1984 obscure David Lynch movie? I don't get it.

Stick to serving up porn, your head will hurt less.

It's called the Gulf War, ever hear of it? You didn't? How about 9/11 -- remember that?

Wonderful. America has a fundamental choice; isolationist or world cop. We have historically been isolationists pulled into other peoples wars when they were on the short end of the stick and we felt threatened.

More recently we have become economic imperialists and do not like anyone playing in our sandbox without our consent.

With Saddam we could and probably should ignore him until he nucks Israel or Iran or even his arab brothers in Kuwait. If we do we can go in without anyone objecting and deal with him. If Clinton was President we would be discussing cocksucking in the White House instead of the Bushies agenda of Americanizing the world to make it safe for exploitation.

Let's go back to the good old days of Monica and defining what si sex.

I haven't challenged you to anything. I've simply pointed out the obvious.

registered with who, clown college?


please, now tell us the story of how not only are you a genius but you were taught how to fight by bruce lee.:1orglaugh

locked in a one room apartment really allows the growth of a fertile imagination, doesn't it.:1orglaugh

well, I'm off.
its 4:30 and I'm still in the office. (not a good sign)

mrpopup, you should get out of your office too before your head explodes. walk out to the mailbox or something.:1orglaugh

see you tomorrow bruce lee.

..."One in two Americans now believe Saddam was responsible for the attack on the WTC"..

Yeah right. Which one? Which two?

If 50% believes that saddam was responsible then where is the 50% support for war?

The SADDEST THING is... this war WILL HAPPEN ---- but not without another major domestic attack to rally support for it.

I bet if you polled the America Public and asked if the war with Iraq is because of their involvement with 9/11 a large majority would say YES. There is proof that one (possibly two) of the hijackers had met with Iraqi diplomats during the planning stages but the US's own intelligence says that the hijackers were attempting to gain financial support from Iraq and that they were turned down. Other than that there hasn't been any direct link between Iraq and 9/11. Bush certainly wants people to think that there is a link. It will make selling the war to the world a lot easier. Too bad there are no facts to support it. Not saying Iraq is a bunch of nice people, but they don't have a part in the war on terrorism that was started after 9/11.
Bush is going to look REALLY bad if we are in the middle of a war with Iraq and Osama pops up and kills more Americans on American soil. Al-queda knows the war with Iraq is on it's way. What better time to attack us?

No matter what happens I think it is only going to get worse before it gets better. How long till the first Islamic suicide bomber detonates a bomb in a crowded shopping mall or movie theater in the US? You think that only happens in places like Tel Aviv or Jerusalem? Wait till it happens in Miami or Dallas or Topeka. Then Bush is going to have a lot of explaining to do about why al-queda is still active after we supposedly ended their threat. Every now and then you see something on the news about al-queda still being active but Iraq is the bigger story and it gets all the airtime. I'm afraid people are going to be in for a rude awakening if al-queda attempts another attack. But of course then the media will be all over al-queda again like they were never pushed to the back page.

Pop goes the World...

So does that mean that John le Carre is a novelist, that is, one who writes imaginative pieces of fiction?
And you seem to believe every single piece of his fictional essay.

Right after we go after Saddam for being a bad guy, we're gonna go after all those African dictators who make meals out of their citizens right? And then we're gonna go after the Pakistani government, since they repress their citizens every bit as ruthlessly as Saddam Hussein. Next up are the Saudis, then Russia, then China.

Riiiiiiiight.....

if you think this is about anything other than us wanting to gain and keep control of abundant oil supplies then you're a propaganda victim. We don't go after dictators on human rights grounds, we INSTALL them when it suits our purposes and we back them against their opposition.

It's not American to kill for oil, and it's not American to believe everything your leaders tell you without looking into the situation for yourself.

There's a word for a nationalist political system that puts your own country's financial well-being above all other considerations. It's called Fascism. There's a word for people who believe their nation is greater than all others just because they were born here, and that word is 'Fascist'. Call it what it is. Waving a flag doesn't make you a Patriot and a good citizen, working to make your government accountable and just does.

50...i guess this counts a bump.

That is a stunning summation of the current attitudes toward intervention in Iraq. Facism wrapped in the flag. You're 100% right although your views are not likely to be popular Stateside.

Not gonna be too long until people with your viewpoint are themselves going to be considered terrorists and sent to Guantanamo Bay.

Peace
Bravo

You're 100% right although your views are not likely to be popular Stateside.
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the good little Germans will be out in force in a minute, but I'm gonna be out buying envelopes :)

Hope you're out there buying gold and sending it to your international address.

Interesting, besides oil, I wonder how much will be looted and stolen when Bush decides to invade Iraq.

I hate these war threads. I read the most stupid things and I always get mad and stop working. Go fuck yourselves!

" one of the biggest global threats since Hitler" , I just cant believe how brainwashed some of you can be...

"There's a word for a nationalist political system that puts your own country's financial well-being above all other considerations. It's called Fascism. There's a word for people who believe their nation is greater than all others just because they were born here, and that word is 'Fascist'. " AMEN!

They have their uses though. They can be a great way to see which people actually have a brain and some kind of logical thought processes going on in it and which are true idiots :winkwink:

popcorn ne1..

I say this as someone who loved my country, but knows not everyone in it is very smart. Just a reponse to the thread title...

One in two Americans can't find their own state on a map.

Only if you've got some beer to go with it :)

all the pro-war people tell me this..

why can't the US wait for UN weapon inspectors to continue their work for a few more months, like Germany, Russia, France and China want?

Hussein has no chance of making weapons while they are inspecting, at best he can hope they don't find anything, and if they do find something then at least it would give credibility to a US led attack.

The person who has killed more innocent people in the last 24 months is not Osama Bin Laden not Saddam Hussein but President Bush in Afghanistan, the estimates of civilian casualties are far greater than 4000, and what has been achieved?
The United States government is hated in more places than ever, and there are MORE terrorists wanting to kill US citizens.

Now tell me how this is a smart policy?

I am not anti-American, I love it, all my income comes from there I have lots of friends there, but your Government is crazy.

lol

I hate you for bumping this.