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Old 03-20-2011, 04:14 AM   #51
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Old 03-20-2011, 05:33 AM   #52
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ok so who now owns sex.xxx and porn.xxx? still the same owners? or somebody took it already?
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Old 03-20-2011, 07:26 AM   #53
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ok so who now owns sex.xxx and porn.xxx? still the same owners? or somebody took it already?
they will be offered to current .com owners first, then to other public.
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Old 03-20-2011, 07:53 AM   #54
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if you don't except .xxx and try boycotting it, you'll be left behind those who do. It's going to suck have to change the watermarks on all vids/pics and all our promo tools. but it's not life changing, just a pain in the ass... I'm going to keep going as I was, but get a hardrive full of material and start preparing for the future so if we are forced to switch, I'll be ready.
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Old 03-20-2011, 08:00 AM   #55
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they will be offered to current .com owners first, then to other public.
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Old 03-20-2011, 08:27 AM   #56
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i suspect many isp's will have an opt in for .xxx domain names.

in the uk the goverment wants an opt in fore porn, so i suspect many isp's will offer opt in for .xxx domains.

the question will be is can they force porn onto .xxx domain names.
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Old 03-20-2011, 08:30 AM   #57
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so if one person owns porn.com another owns porn.co.uk and a third owns porn.biz, who would get porn.xxx

the sad thing is most will run out to get the .xxx just in case. this will panick others into getting the .xxx.
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Old 03-20-2011, 09:02 AM   #58
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Whats the problem? Lots of you 15 year olds can buy a xxx domain and build another tube.
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As the adult industry begins to grapple with how it will be impacted by the newly approved .XXX sTLD, many webmasters and community members are reacting to today’s vote.
“I’m surprised it happened at all with all the objections going on,” Hustler President Michael Klein told XBIZ. “It’s unfortunate they decided to approve it.”

Klein said he thinks it’ll be problematic because it’ll create a ghetto for adult domains.

“It puts another level of frustration on legitimate companies without any benefit or generating any revenue for us. It’ll only generate revenue for the people behind it.

“But, we’ll do our best to minimize the damage.”

Paul Cambria, an adult industry attorney who pleaded to ICANN's board during Thursday night’s public hearing period to reject the sTLD, said free speech is the issue with .XXX.

"The .XXX designation is a content-based designation," Cambria said. "For over 100 years our Supreme Court has fended off any attack on 1st Amendment speech based on content.

"As long as speech is legal we don't grade it as according to content," he said. ".XXX would compartmentalize adult legal speech and that would serve as a crack in the wall for free speech.

".XXX would afford a step toward content-based categorization of otherwise lawful speech. It would also provide a very convenient tool for those who have the power to either censor or prevent lawful speech to be disseminated."

Kink.com founder Peter Acworth told XBIZ he also was disappointed by the ICANN decision.

“.XXX was opposed by virtually every group, including GAC and its supposed ‘sponsor,’ the adult industry. We at Kink.com are now faced with having to spend a significant amount of money defending our brands by purchasing ridiculously overpriced domains in the .XXX space.”

Mark Blazing of BlazingBucks also voiced his disappointment in the vote and agreed with Acworth and Hustler’s Klein, saying it will cost adult webmasters money.

"We are very disappointed in this decision to approve .XXX,” Blazing said.

“We feel this is going to impact us not only financially in having to secure our domains in the .XXX extension, but also in the potential regulatory practices that will most likely follow from this decision."

Evil Angel Productions general manager and FSC board member, Christian Mann, also voiced his disappointment, saying untold hours of work have been invested into stopping this initiative.

“Given the many compelling reasons presented so well by the .XXX opposition, which included the real stakeholders in the adult content community as well as governments worldwide, including our own GAC (Government Advisory Committee), the decision by ICANN baffles me,” Mann said.

“I’m not surprised as we knew we were facing pressure from forces with resources, money and questionable agendas. I realize that on the surface, the issues are complex which makes it harder to get people outside of the industry to understand the inherent risks.

“I had hoped that ICANN board members would have known better than to go along with this flawed plan. I was wrong about that. I also know that it’s too soon to see the fallout and whether or not there is still a challenge to be made.”

Mann encourages all concerned stakeholders to go to the FSC’s website where they can get information available about this topic.

“There are many battles yet to be fought and the FSC remains the trade association for any company or individual in the adult entertainment business,” Mann said.

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So lets see what sneaky things lay ahead.

One thing I wonder is will credit cards firm insist that they will only alow adult payments from .xxx sites.

I will see many countries saying that porn should be only on .xxx and .com's and so on only used for businesses that are non adult.

And I would see very soon countries/isp's insisting on an opt in. Mabe even charging a fee for you to access .xxx sites.

The first thing we need is such as ccbill et al to confirm that there will be no plans by the credit card firms now or the next few years to ONLY take payments via .xxx sites.
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IMHO, .xxx might not kill porn, but it could still be a pain in the neck. I wish .kids had been applied for and approved and that whatever influencers/influences affected ICANN voting for .xxx hadn't happened.

I hope icm doesn't own or have present-or-future influence over ISP or card-processing folks who might possibly pursue content-censoring and/or be tempted to "push" .xxx upon the Adult Industry by requiring that all adult content mandatorily be only in .xxx .

First Amendment Attorney Paul Cambria's above comments seem hopeful to me.

Don't forget that .sx is on the horizon, too:-(.

I'm also concerned at the moment with the possibility of Cal/OSHA mandatory condoms issue. Other than New Hampshire, California is the only State in America where legitimate porn-making is legal (Freeman v. California).

The combination of .xxx, Cal/OSHA, piracy, etc might become a career-ending challenge to future adult content production as we know it today, at least for some. Yikes (look for me mopping floors at your local McDonald's?) !
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IMHO, .xxx might not kill porn, but it could still be a pain in the neck. I wish .kids had been applied for and approved instead, and that whatever influencers/influences affected ICANN voting for .xxx hadn't happened.

I hope icm doesn't own or have present-or-future influence over ISP or card-processing folks, or other people/entities who might possibly pursue content-censoring and/or be tempted to "push" .xxx upon the Adult Industry by requiring that all adult content mandatorily be only in .xxx .

First Amendment Attorney Paul Cambria's above comments seem hopeful to me.

Don't forget that .sx is on the horizon, too:-(.

I'm also concerned at the moment with the possibility of Cal/OSHA mandatory condoms issue. Other than New Hampshire, California is the only State in America where legitimate porn-making is legal (Freeman v. California).

The combination of .xxx, Cal/OSHA, piracy, etc might become a career-ending challenge to future adult content production as we know it today, at least for some. Yikes (look for me mopping floors at your local McDonald's?) !
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Old 03-20-2011, 05:56 PM   #63
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they will be offered to current .com owners first, then to other public.
i should start taking note on a list now for a nice .xxx domain name and lets see if i can get a 2 or 3 nice domain .xxx
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Old 03-21-2011, 07:25 AM   #64
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DVTimes will probably buy lots of these because it's easier for him to spell.
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well, traffic coming from those countries that will block xxx probably won't convert at all so I don't care. As I am concerned I won't buy any of those domains. Hope everyone will ignore it but if we have so much tubes, I doubt that webmasters are aware of what they are doing.
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On the Huffington Post it says the following:

"ICM Registry and its CEO, Stuart Lawley, who has led the fight for ICANN's approval of ".xxx," stand to profit handsomely from the rollout of ".xxx" websites ? because he will be in charge of collecting fees for the use of the new domains. Lawley plans to charge registrars $60 per year for the domain names. He estimates that he could sell as many as 500,000 by the time he rolls them out this summer.

"This was always going to be a very lucrative arrangement," he said in an interview Friday.

Lawley's prices have been a critical issue for opponents to his plan, since domain names typically sell for a fraction of what Lawley plans to charge. They often sell for $10 or less."

OMG

Fuck this guy.....he's an arrogant prick. 1/2 million domains by summer. I guess he thinks we are so ignorant that we will blindly put $30 million dollars plus what other exorbitant fees he feels like charging in his greedy hands by Labor Day. I think not!
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Yes this absolutely WILL change everything.

Especially for all the peeps with "domain portfolios".
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According to my 30,000:0 ratios with sponsors who used to have 600:1 end already happened...but who gives a fuck, there are much better things to sell than porn, only problem is the time when you have to learn new things and starting again..but it will probably happen many times in my life.
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umm who's going to be in charge of what's porn and whats not? are they going force all Adult Processors to make sure adult sites are on .xxx before verifying them? If I have pics of chicks in bikinis is that porn? what about .net .org .co .info and the hundreds of other tlds that have porn on them. it's going to be like .info and .co ... they orginally wanted companies on co and infomation crap on .info ... no one cared. .com will always be the #1 tld. they need to make a .spam to help out spammers more


.com was created for commercial websites, yet it has been used for all kinds of sites, people consider it something like a "general" domain

.xxx is just as interesting as .info, .ws, .name and similiar

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On the Huffington Post it says the following:

"ICM Registry and its CEO, Stuart Lawley, who has led the fight for ICANN's approval of ".xxx," stand to profit handsomely from the rollout of ".xxx" websites – because he will be in charge of collecting fees for the use of the new domains. Lawley plans to charge registrars $60 per year for the domain names. He estimates that he could sell as many as 500,000 by the time he rolls them out this summer.

"This was always going to be a very lucrative arrangement," he said in an interview Friday.

Lawley's prices have been a critical issue for opponents to his plan, since domain names typically sell for a fraction of what Lawley plans to charge. They often sell for $10 or less."

OMG

Fuck this guy.....he's an arrogant prick. 1/2 million domains by summer. I guess he thinks we are so ignorant that we will blindly put $30 million dollars plus what other exorbitant fees he feels like charging in his greedy hands by Labor Day. I think not!
Never underestimate the stupidity that IS the Adult Industry.

At least half the morons on this board that have been bitching about this extension, will be buying them up as soon as they can... just like all the asshole tube site owners on here.

Bend over douche bags!
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No need for an army - only a handful of payment processors dominate the adult industry. Without payment processing, no business.

It's likely payment processors will likely take the lead and require adult sites to operate completely within .XXX.

Already, payment processors dictate numerous things that adult sites must abide by, including naming conventions, such as forbidding various words / phrases in domains and metatags.

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Although I understand your meaning this is not actually the case. Processors (and acquiring banks) don't necessarily like regulations, it impedes their ability to expand their profit margins. It's the card association regulations and laws that make them impose requirements.
Because I specialize in high risk merchant account and processing placement, I run into this every day of the week and I can honestly say that no bank/processor likes to boot a profitable merchant off their system simply because they can't meet some new regulation that pops up.

That being said, just as with gambling, pharma etc etc, there will always be companies willing to dodge regs and creative alternatives for processing payments ... period! Money talks, plain and simple.

Of course it won't happen but ..... Wouldn't it be an ironic twist if the card associations prohibited the use of V and MC from being used to purchase a .xxx domain name? THAT would put the .xxx registries panties in a wad! lol
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