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Deputy Chief Command 03-15-2011 04:35 PM

paxum won for now, but they arent all that good either , ,see sig for horror story , and bad attitude of ruth@paxum . ..

pimpsalot 03-15-2011 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 17981693)
Paxum won. If you are looking for something as easy, as accepted and as used by affiliate programs it is Paxum.

Payoneer's Alexa ranking is due in large part by the fact that they also market their card like a pre-paid MC worldwide. Paxum works primarily with the adult industry. Looking at that Alexa ranking I see Paxum as the winner since they have such a huge market share and primarily are rooted in adult.


Payoneer is widely in use in most of the same affiliate programs. Watch the news over the coming months. Paxum and Payoneer are servicing the same customer bases. Both platforms have merit and obvious fans.

True, Payoneer is in play in many other industries like FOREX for example where it's the de facto payout platform behind wires, the MLM industry, the Travel industry and now the adult industry.

Being "primarily rooted in adult" may or may not be a benefit. If you can run the table, like CCBill for example, and gobble up 80% of the market share then there is a winner. That being said, anyone who's been in this industry for long, learns to balance their strategies and diversify their technology plays.

There's no market drivers to make the payout industry a singular source item and I would expect it will continue to trend like the payment processing space for many years. In 5 years let's talk about who won. It's early and nobody on this board short of the folks at Paxum or Payoneer know exactly how it's going and that's fine.

V_RocKs 03-15-2011 10:00 PM

Payoneer sucks because you want me to pay $5 to get my money now... And even when I select now, it still takes hours, if not an entire day sometimes.

Paxum sucks in that it charges a $1 fee on credit card transactions...

Payoneer also sucks because it apparently isn't tied into the US ATM system as USD so when I withdrawal money I also get hit with a big conversion fee.

blonda80 03-15-2011 11:41 PM

paxum :thumbsup

BAKO 03-15-2011 11:47 PM

epassporte all the way

Chosen 03-16-2011 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAKO (Post 17982524)
epassporte all the way

:helpme:1orglaugh:helpme:error

icymelon 03-16-2011 01:38 AM

what happened with cashx?

nikki99 03-16-2011 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 17968464)

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Sid70 03-16-2011 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icymelon (Post 17982654)
what happened with cashx?

alive and kicking!

adultchatpay 03-16-2011 02:34 AM

let me try paxum

seeandsee 03-16-2011 04:47 AM

all webcam sites need to add PAXUM, because PAXUM won!

Chris 03-16-2011 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultchatpay (Post 17982703)
let me try paxum

whats your email? [email protected]

pimpsalot 03-16-2011 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 17982804)
all webcam sites need to add PAXUM, because PAXUM won!


LOL or so you say. Check out the 100,000 models using Payoneer. Here are the cam programs using Payoneer:

1. IMLive
2. Live Jazmin
3. StreamMates
4. VS Media
5. MyFreeCams


Anyone who is saying Paxum "won" just doesn't have access to the actual info.

Both Paxum and Payoneer have value and I imagine will continue to grow their customer rolls.

Chris 03-16-2011 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpsalot (Post 17983632)
LOL or so you say. Check out the 100,000 models using Payoneer. Here are the cam programs using Payoneer:

1. IMLive
2. Live Jazmin
3. StreamMates
4. VS Media
5. MyFreeCams


Anyone who is saying Paxum "won" just doesn't have access to the actual info.

Both Paxum and Payoneer have value and I imagine will continue to grow their customer rolls.

Hey Now , some of those cam companies use us ;)

and you and I both know - just because those cam companies may have a combined total of 100,000 models i would say half of them are studios that more than likely just get one wire and maybe 10-15% is a single model who recieve the funds via one of the many awesome prepaid solutions :)

Talia_Payoneer 03-17-2011 12:07 PM

Hi guys,

Talia from Payoneer here. If I may contribute my 2 cents, I agree that Alexa is not necessarily any type of mark. You shouldn't make a decision about anything - especially anything money-related - based on an Alexa ranking.

What you should base it on is your experience or someone else's experience who you trust. I have been reading a bunch of posts and I realize that one of the biggest misconceptions is about the fees on Payoneer. Payoneer is not more expensive than the other companies out there, and cheaper than most, we just each have different fee structures.

Like Chris said, things don't boil down just to fees, as important as the actual amount of money you earn is. We have many different forms of customer support including email (in multiple languages), live chat, and we can be reached by telephone - from the US and international numbers.

Our presence on forums hasn't been very strong in the past, but I'm here now and I will do my best to come over every day so I can answer any questions you may have.

If you have any questions about fees or would like any information that (clearly) hasn't been given to you here before, I promise I am here, and you can also contact me via email: [email protected]

pimpsalot 03-17-2011 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 17983637)
Hey Now , some of those cam companies use us ;)

and you and I both know - just because those cam companies may have a combined total of 100,000 models i would say half of them are studios that more than likely just get one wire and maybe 10-15% is a single model who recieve the funds via one of the many awesome prepaid solutions :)


Yes I know :) That's what I wrote above.

"Paxum and Payoneer are servicing the same customer bases. Both platforms have merit and obvious fans."

On that note, I think cam models are using bank accounts less and less. To easy for their boyfriends to rob them :)

brianw 05-20-2011 08:10 AM

Golden rule, don't put all your eggs in one basket!

Lessons learned

I vote for checks, but of course get the best payment mix you can.

Brian
Action Payout Services

merina0803 05-20-2011 08:20 AM

nobody... avoid all.

merina0803 05-20-2011 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 17986464)
Hi guys,

Talia from Payoneer here. If I may contribute my 2 cents, I agree that Alexa is not necessarily any type of mark. You shouldn't make a decision about anything - especially anything money-related - based on an Alexa ranking.

What you should base it on is your experience or someone else's experience who you trust. I have been reading a bunch of posts and I realize that one of the biggest misconceptions is about the fees on Payoneer. Payoneer is not more expensive than the other companies out there, and cheaper than most, we just each have different fee structures.

Like Chris said, things don't boil down just to fees, as important as the actual amount of money you earn is. We have many different forms of customer support including email (in multiple languages), live chat, and we can be reached by telephone - from the US and international numbers.

Our presence on forums hasn't been very strong in the past, but I'm here now and I will do my best to come over every day so I can answer any questions you may have.

If you have any questions about fees or would like any information that (clearly) hasn't been given to you here before, I promise I am here, and you can also contact me via email: [email protected]

your support sucks and your sales reps are not interested. :2 cents:

michael.kickass 05-20-2011 08:35 AM

Paxum :thumbsup

Chosen 05-20-2011 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merina0803 (Post 18154129)
nobody... avoid all.

http://www.wiispace.com/wii-forum/me...1840-o-rly.jpg

Internet User 05-20-2011 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PayoneerTeam (Post 17986464)
Hi guys,

Talia from Payoneer here. If I may contribute my 2 cents, I agree that Alexa is not necessarily any type of mark. You shouldn't make a decision about anything - especially anything money-related - based on an Alexa ranking.

What you should base it on is your experience or someone else's experience who you trust. I have been reading a bunch of posts and I realize that one of the biggest misconceptions is about the fees on Payoneer. Payoneer is not more expensive than the other companies out there, and cheaper than most, we just each have different fee structures.

Like Chris said, things don't boil down just to fees, as important as the actual amount of money you earn is. We have many different forms of customer support including email (in multiple languages), live chat, and we can be reached by telephone - from the US and international numbers.

Our presence on forums hasn't been very strong in the past, but I'm here now and I will do my best to come over every day so I can answer any questions you may have.

If you have any questions about fees or would like any information that (clearly) hasn't been given to you here before, I promise I am here, and you can also contact me via email: [email protected]

Payoneer sucks, go away.

Talia_Payoneer 05-22-2011 12:13 AM

Merina and Internet User - we're here to stay :-) Our support does care and so do our sales reps, but of course you are entitled to your opinion.

ContentPimp 05-22-2011 12:31 AM

As I said when it first came out paxum would win. The logic was simple they have the most reasonable fees.

V_RocKs 05-22-2011 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpsalot (Post 17983632)
LOL or so you say. Check out the 100,000 models using Payoneer. Here are the cam programs using Payoneer:

1. IMLive
2. Live Jazmin
3. StreamMates
4. VS Media
5. MyFreeCams


Anyone who is saying Paxum "won" just doesn't have access to the actual info.

Both Paxum and Payoneer have value and I imagine will continue to grow their customer rolls.

Wow... You are actually feeling OK telling the industry that 100,000 web cam models get raped by Payoneer and their fees? What a fucking asshole! :thumbsup


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