Is it worth sending traffic to affiliate programs, these days?

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  • brassmonkey
    Pay It Forward
    • Sep 2005
    • 77396

    #16
    if you want to get paid yes
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    • cooldude7
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2009
      • 4306

      #17
      what other option do u have ?

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      • wehateporn
        Promoting Debate on GFY
        • Apr 2007
        • 27176

        #18
        Originally posted by cooldude7
        what other option do u have ?
        Go direct to sites without affiliate programs and strike deals

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        • WetandPuffy
          Confirmed User
          • Aug 2009
          • 551

          #19
          There are still sites out there that do sell and have better conversion rates but I do admit time are still tough although definately getting better.
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          • Chris
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • May 2003
            • 27880

            #20
            Maybe look into something that is still selling well and hasnt been hurt by the amount of free porn and tube sites.
            Herbals are still doing amazing - www.oainternet.com if you want to check us out
            [email protected]

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            • B.Barnato
              So Fucking Banned
              • Nov 2010
              • 3618

              #21
              Originally posted by MrMaxwell

              Can I be banned for inciting a business oriented dialogue?
              no but maybe for being extra extra extremely late to the blog party

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              • Zester
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2003
                • 5344

                #22
                did someone forget to tell you that porn is free now?
                * Mainstream ? $65 per sale
                * new male contraception

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                • wehateporn
                  Promoting Debate on GFY
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 27176

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Zester
                  did someone forget to tell you that porn is free now?
                  Please don't tell the over 50's crowd that as I rely on those Internet Dinosaurs

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                  • Site Collector
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 179

                    #24
                    What a sad state of affairs where we stand with the adult industry. Free porn available everywhere and no one does anything to crack down on it. The regular horny surfer doesnt understand that there will be no more free new porn one day if the companies making it go down!

                    I used to rack up with my affiliate sites, had a couple of huge producers, the only thing keeping me well off is the fact that I have so many sites and always kept adding to my network. But if I was starting today with my first site, affiliate is not where I would go.
                    mondaygps[@]g[mail][.com]

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                    • signupdamnit
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 6697

                      #25
                      People here suggest that I am too picky or being unreasonable but you really do need to be picky about who you send traffic. Even if they are running a fair 50% revshare program you need to realize you are probably getting only 40% in actuality because of how tracking typically works. You have to understand that. If you send traffic to people with a bunch of leaks, cross sales on rev share without affiliate credit, no credit mobile redirects, non-credited backup processors or that other stuff you need to realize you are being fucked out of money. I don't care what you say. If the program were more fair you would be making more money. If you and every other affiliate support programs who do these things then more sponsors are going to try to do it and you will continually make less as it goes on. This is partially what is happening and why it isn't worth it with most programs anymore. Only a select few are worth the bother.

                      You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                      • Kelli58
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 2253

                        #26
                        Yes, affiliate programs - some of them at least are still worth doing business with if you approach it in the right way. If you want to throw up a few FHGs on a blog and hope for the best then probably not going to work out well for you but if done right, affiliate programs can be a great source of income.

                        TGP traffic is shit. Was 5 years ago, still is today. So if those are your numbers that is no surprise to me.

                        Tube traffic is bigger shit and your numbers would no likely be even worse with that kind of traffic.

                        As far as blogs go, while some people are making money blogging, they are far and few between but mostly because people are lazy. They don't want to put in the work required and write unique posts. But that's another issue for another day. LOL
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                        • signupdamnit
                          Confirmed User
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 6697

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Site Collector
                          But if I was starting today with my first site, affiliate is not where I would go.
                          I think there are still big openings for good programs to sweep in and offer a nice deal to affiliates and a great product to consumers. If you look back in history (minus the tubes) this is how most of the big guys got big. They paid their affiliates well and they built up a brand. Affiliates would send them some traffic and see great ratios and then think "Holy shit these guys convert great!" and send them as much as they could. It was a partnership with both parties benefitting near equally. Unfortunately a lot of these companies got greedy and decided that their affiliates were earning too much. They decided to take out more of the cut by using various slick tricks. They no longer are a good deal for affiliates but they choose to rely on their momentum and the stupidity of affiliates.

                          There are openings in 2011 for good programs like this to take over. They just have to shun all the common tricks their peers are using and offer the affiliate and customer a good deal. Sure many affiliates are stupid and will fall for the tricks others are pulling but there will be some who will realize a good deal and in the long run the numbers should speak for themselves.

                          Do you think I won't send you traffic if you offer me a fair program which converts 30% better and rebills 30% better than the other clowns at the same price point? Of course I will. But all your marketing means jack shit. I'm actually looking at the numbers and I'm checking your program for bullshit. I'll notice if you are better than the other guys both pre-signup and post-signup. Affiliates are running businesses too. We're not a bunch of idiots sitting on the couch jacking off to your sites and looking to make some beer money. Please quit treating us as if we were.
                          Last edited by signupdamnit; 02-28-2011, 12:34 PM.

                          You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                          • MrMaxwell
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 10057

                            #28
                            Originally posted by u-Bob
                            blame tracking by cookies, the increase in obvious traffic leaks (A couple of days ago I even noticed "follow us on twitter" links on FHGs! ), floaters that are almost impossible to close and are designed to sell some other site instead of the site you are sending traffic to,...
                            This is so true. Like the AWE scam. Like the spanking programs who do nothing but drill members with ads for their other sites (without crediting you) or link to C4S blatantly on affiliate referred tour pages or how about the ones who hijack FHGs quietly

                            on and on and on

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                            • MrMaxwell
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 10057

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Angry Jew Cat
                              affiliates take it in the ass at every turn. With all the traffic leaks and opportunities for your cookie to be lost, you're basically an unpaid salesman. These days you alamost better be planning your own product if you want to be a full-time webmaster.
                              Yeah
                              To further the point.. we all know that members leave and come back later without affiliates being credited

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                              • MrMaxwell
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jul 2005
                                • 10057

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Chris
                                Maybe look into something that is still selling well and hasnt been hurt by the amount of free porn and tube sites.
                                Herbals are still doing amazing - www.oainternet.com if you want to check us out
                                I've always been curious about that kind of a program. I sent some traffic to, I think it was called "more niche" once.. Never saw any results. But that's almost the kind of thing I could promote through ms tubes without too much trouble

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