you mean per CPM right?

No traffic out there is worth $20-30 per click.

The tgp traffic I get convert 1/50 on our program easy.

i highly doubt you're paying $25 a click for search engine traffic.

For the record I'm not complaining about tgp traffic, I'm deffending my sig. I'm moving into adult a little bit and I have a couple gallery submitters, and there is money to be made. Not a ton, the profit margins are very slim compared to other things I do like Casinos, but as long as it makes a profit we'll keep hiring more submitters. :thumbsup

If anyone's paying $25 per click I will send them all my traffic without blinking an eye.

I think this thread has taken a wrong turn

and I'm to tired to break it down

rich, you're already full of shit. i checked overture, the term casino has a max bid of $17.45, not $25 like you said, gambling was only $8.88

other interesting terms were
life insurance $6.24
furures $4.99
psychic $7.76



the reason these terms go high is that there isn't a LOT of traffic to them - it's filtered down from the total amount of search engine traffic.

where do you make more money.

10,000,000 hits at .003 cents a click?
100 hits at $17 a hit?

think about it for a second before you answer

The most I've paid at overture is $26 PER CLICK, right now the top bids are going for about $17-$18 PER CLICK. Damn, you tgp guys really believe that you are the be all and the end all in this game. News flash, you're not. You think all casinos are scams, that's so fucking funny. There are some bad apples, but it's a much bigger industry than you realize. A big advertising deal on tgps is what, $15k for the top spot on the hun for a month? lol, think about how many SE clicks that would buy me, not many. I'm not trying to get into a penis measuring contest here, especially with a guy who can't see his let along measure it. Let's agree to disagree, you do your thing, I'll do mine, and we can both think whatever the fuck we want. Just don't post anything approaching Refer Back not paying or you'll be hit with a liable suit so fast you'll wish you were posting anonymous. The top casinos are bigger business than you can imagine, don't learn that the hard way.

I don't doubt that man, it's all about what a member is worth. A player who deposits any amount of funds into a casino is worth at least $175 to me on the average CPA campaign, as opposed to porn members who are worth what, $25-$40 on a good day. Gamblers are addicts bro, exploit them for your own gain like I do. :-)

Right man there are only 100 surfers per day who are looking to gamble online. Keep beliving that, butter pants.

Sue me all you want - in fact PLEASE DO. I'll even forward you my personal info to make it easier. Private Casinos are illegial here in Canada and in MOST countries and places. I'm sure the governing bodies would LOVE to get their fingers into the full details of your little operation - something that would have to be put on the table for a lawsuit to happen as I can GUARENTTE you I'd dig VERY deep and my lawers are very good at what they do. I can even give you the name of my law firm if you want.

best case scenario the gov't here would tax the living SHIT out of you, worst case you'd be thrown in jail, and most liky (99%) it would be the worst case scenario.

Once again, I have not sceen a casino YET that is honest on payouts- why should I think ANY differenly about yours? You havn't provided any reputable or any references for that matter to back up your position. Makes me think you're no different any any of the other casino scam artists.

keep talking shit tough guy

In case nobody saw the other thread, Gary from Sex Promote said he uses and loves Refer Back.

You guys are talking about to totally differant beasts

as long as both your numbers are in the black.
Your both ahead of the curve.

I understand in gamming a good surfer is worth more than adult paysite member. we used to have Casino Granda and a few others a few years ago.
If you have good software and proccessing you will do well.
Its a whole nother beast.

I've tried many gamming programs and never did well but its been a while and I'm up to try it out again.

What about these guys?

http://www.casinotraffic.com/

never heard fo them. but their terms are suspcious. sounds like they advertise 20 cents a click but pay only 3 cents...... least that's what it looks like to me in their TOS.....

"We will pay you a commission equal to twenty cents ($.20) per unique; ............... In the event you fall below our determined conversion rate, you will automatically be placed in the ?per signup? program or paid .03 cents per unique click. .



20 cents a click is a FAR CRY from $25 a click.... something doesn't add up here...hummmmm, maybe it's cause most casinos STIFF their advertisers if business isnt' pre-paid.

That's CEN's program genious, and they're not really even a competitor. They don't buy much casino traffic, they're mostly there to rob porn newbies into giving away their joins for like $50 or whatever it is they pay.

You can say whatever you want Sleazy, more and more I'm realizing thet you're just like the fat gradeschool loser who gets beat up all the time. You can't back up anything you say and you look like a complete jackass so you threaten to "tell on me" to the government. I'm not stupid enough to be anything but 100% legal, so do whatever will make you feel like less of an assclown.

But I do agree that the huge porn company who does advertise all over your precious TGPs runs one of the more, to quote you, "suspcious" of the casino affiliate programs. I wonder how they'd like you implying that they rip of webmasters. Keep your mouth shut from now on unless the topic is tgp galleries.

there is no such thing as a 100% legal casino with website links that work in the USA or Canada.

I don't need to tell on you to, sueing me requires full disclosure. If you've EVER been to court you'd know that. PLEASE SUE ME. what are you afraid of?

dude you should just chill the fuck out. He might be overweight but at least the guy has enough guts to post his pics on the net!

I never said CEN robs anyone - you said that. - I said the terms sounded suspicious and they do. I even quoted what I found to be suspcious and anyone with an IQ over 10 points would agree with that statement looking at the quote from the TOS that I posted. I stand behind what I say, but I'm going to assume if that is CEN's site they won't be too happy with you calling them people who exist to rob newbies. That IS SLANDER and really could get you sued. Obviously you ain't too bright. One can see that from your posts and rants.

Do you reside in Canada or the USA? if you do I wonder how you sleep at night knowing that any of several gov't agencies could bust through your door and arrest you at any moment for running a private casino without a licence........
Have a good night's sleep.

for the record, rich aka [the leader] has posted his full name on gfy several times. first name, last name.

mine's been on GFY before, and I'll post it again. Scott Hjorleifson

my point is pretty obvious. he is not anon.

Which one of you has more money? That one's right... :D

Not that I understand a fucking word of what you're talking about....this has to do with cowardly anons because _____ ?

he's still anon to people who don't know who he is though.

I'll give him this, he had the guts to post his company URL in his signature. At first I thought that was just an affiliate link, my mistake.

You're anon to new people on this board.

Really?


The government knows exactly what I do, how much I make, and that I pay way more taxes than you.

Ok Sleazy, I can see we're both the "get the last word in" type of guys, so I won't post again after this. Let's just agree to disagree here and get on with life.

If you ever want to see what a casino affiliate program can do with your traffic, give me a shout. We do pay, and could probably work out a prepaid deal. :thumbsup

peace

annomyous?

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


I never said CEN robs anyone - you said that.

Reply by Rich:

Really?

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yep - to quote you "they're mostly there to rob porn newbies into giving away their joins for like $50 or whatever it is they pay. "

I said most casinos- you said 'They' meaning CEN - mine requires you to make a leap associating one with the other cause they are in the same industry. Your statement was pointed DIRECTLY at CEN. BIG DIFFERENCE.





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Rich:
The government knows exactly what I do, how much I make, and that I pay way more taxes than you.
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Only a FOOL would make this statement since you DON'T know how much I pay in taxes. You're just GUESSING. not smart.

that statement took some class. I'm impressed.

and? by your arguement i must be a coward to those people then.

i never said anything about this before, because i'm not someone to bitch or complain.

when my biggest paysite first got associated with my name publically on this board, i came under a fucking huge attack, on several fronts - only hours after it was posted.

i burnt through amost 10K USD worth of extra bandwidth (and countless hours of fixing/monitoring) in the week after that. also had an email spam attack using my url, that had the potential to get very fucking ugly.

fucking hackers and spammers.

but, what's done is done. and i'm done with this thread.

I found a pic of Jammy

http://www.somethingawful.com/cliff/...u/page8-02.jpg

I love you and fully support your right to express yourself JammyJenkins, but Cliff Yablonski wants to stab you in the face

I think you missed the point of what I was origionally trying to get at with this post. I've never sceen you attack anyone blindly. That's what this post was origionally meant to be about. All I've ever sceen you do is make intelligent comments backed up with credible data. I believe that one should question EVERYTHING, and it's difficult to question wild accusations made by a blind poster that doesn't back up what he says or let you know who he is.


oh, I bought a membership to your site when the URL was posted, sorry about watching $10k worth of movie bandwidth.

Exactly... Its the Anon who talk shit.

If your gonna talk shit be a man about it. If not your a coward

i missed nothing. i simply pointed out that rich is not anon. a simple search on gfy will bring up his full name. you we're calling him a coward for being anon. which is incorrect.

that's it. simple point.

oh, and anyone who says "It's only anon's that post shit" (see above post) is smoking something.

Serge doesn't post any shit? lol. he's the ultimate shit talker.

Serge doesn't hide who he is so he can talk shit and he's not a coward.

personaly if I know who you are and you don't like something I do. Tell me. just do it face to face

thats all we are saying

umm, you inferred that I and others consider you to be a coward. That would mean you missed something as that would be wrong......

"....by your arguement i must be a coward ....... "

I posted that I made a mistake about the anon issue with rich too later on - realizing that the sig was his site and not an affiliate lead.


I respect the way Serge attacks anyone and doesn't HIDE when he does it.


own up to your own mistakes - we all make them

"...... and i'm done with this thread. " yet you keep posting.......

Pretty cool name Sleazy.

quiet is much less militant than I am, but it doesn't surprise me at all that he had all those problems once he was exposed. Just look at how things have been lately; spammers coming out of the fucking woodwork. With these 3-post packet kiddies about it feels like you should watch what you say just to save yourself 30 minutes of time on the phone with your host getting your server rebooted.

Agruing the degrees of anon-ness could take 15 pages and still not have a satisfactory resolution. But it was a nice try.