I've been in this business for 7 years, and I have NEVER been paid by a casino program I've sent clicks to. Never heard of anyone getting paid by one either.

That's not to say that there is no such animal as a casino proggie that pays, just that I've never come across one.

same here, as far as I'm concerned they are ALL fuckin THEIVES.

It's about time. Call me sometimes and I'll give you some advice, you could be through submitting TGP galleries by the end of the year.


lol, you're not accusing Refer Back of not paying, are you? That's a serious acusation fat man, be prepard to back up your words. Find one affiliate who even claims he hasn't been paid, or has any bad thing to say.
:321GFY

Unfortunatly your word doesn't mean anything to anyone who clears more than 50k/year.

you're right - finding a single affiliate WOULD be a problem.......

That's true Roger. What fun is it to tell a guy FUCK YOU and not have him know who said it?

There are a lot of little pansies on this board that do that. Take a look at any hosting thread! They are the worst when it comes to this!

Real men don't hide when they have something to say. But then again, I have seen guys here actually get scared when a board warrior says 'I'm going to kill you!' Haha! Maybe there's just not enough real men on this board.

If you take offense at what I just said, you are probably the type that personally know this guy...

http://www.kepplerassociates.com/images/simmons.jpg

Same here I have never had any luck with gaming but thats just me.

My buddy owns Poker.com he does well.

dude, time to get real, anyone who's REALLY in the TGP game makes more than $50k a MONTH......

I'm sure that a large percentage of casino programs are scammers..but i can attest that intercasino is not..They have been paying me promptly,every month for over 2 years.I do a 20% rev share program with them.

Absolutely. What does clicked tgp traffic go for, $3-$5 per 1000 clicks? Now go check what we pay for clicks at overture for the term "casino" and others.

Roger if you'd like to make some serious upsell money from your members, nothing will work better than a good casino. The only hard part is finding an honest casino affiliate program who will pay you. That's where Refer Back comes in...

OMFG !!! Bernie and I are agreeing on something ...

TELL ME THIS IS NOT HAPPENING ?!? :winkwink: :thumbsup

let me Guess, it's probally ALL pre-paid advertising.....

I got goosebumbs at the honesty of all your references on your site (first name only, no urls)


sad

Rich now what if this poster had no sig or face?
wouldn't it suck? because you would be fighting a no win battle.

thats my only gripe about the boards

I'm sure you pay don't stress.

If you care it hurts if you don't it works..

In my opinion, I think that stocktrader23 and Gman.357 said it very nicely.

Another reason to remain anonymous, even while not ?bashing? people?s livelihoods, is the stuff you post is public and can be misconstrued in other business deals if the relationship goes bad. Try explaining to your attorney that you might have made the post about the client/customer on a non-related forum? And the other attorney says he has printed pages of your posts while you thought you talking with your internet buddies.

Everyone needs to vent once in awhile so what is the big deal? I believe the forum?s name speaks for itself.

Oh, my opinion doesn?t count. I don?t have 1,000+ posts next to my name and I have a hotmail account and I did get an ICQ# if that counts.

:)

I'm always open to making more money shoot me an email.
let me see what we have in our members section as far as casino's go. strokemag aslo needs a good casino

if you arn't full of shit then you'd be buying banners and gallery spots on most every major TGP and adult site out there.
Odd that you arn't.

Is StrokeMag yours?

Thanks:)

Hello :drinkup

I buy traffic from almost every big casino portal and search engine, and I'm full of shit because I'm not buying banner spots on TGPs? Don't make me laugh. At least I've understood your point in all your other posts, I didn't agree with much but I could at least grasp how you could think you make sense. This one just baffles me.

read your signature and then tell me again you're not full of shit.

Hello back :drinkup

What's incorrect about my signature? Please explain your comments smart ass.

Yea its a free ezine with a ton of free content to our webmasters with paysites its basically a full members section with a few upsells to cover some costs. Soon we will be updating everything inside it. It still has more content then most full members sections right now.

Over 100 webmasters carry strokmag its been around for years.

Yes. I know. We have it. :)

well rich, if you weren't talking out of your ass then NON-BLIND straight forward clicked TGP traffic would go for a similar amount of money as search engine.

blind of course would be another story.

for 1000 filtered clicks I get a lot more money they you say you pay for search engine clicks by the way.

Show me a tgp that has people line up to pay $20-$30 PER CLICK and I'll give $10,000 to your little charity.

The tgp traffic I get kicks ass I can't complain.

lol, right, someone buys 1000 clicks from sleazydream for $25,000. Show me proof and the 10k will be there Tuesday.

you mean per CPM right?

No traffic out there is worth $20-30 per click.

The tgp traffic I get convert 1/50 on our program easy.

i highly doubt you're paying $25 a click for search engine traffic.

For the record I'm not complaining about tgp traffic, I'm deffending my sig. I'm moving into adult a little bit and I have a couple gallery submitters, and there is money to be made. Not a ton, the profit margins are very slim compared to other things I do like Casinos, but as long as it makes a profit we'll keep hiring more submitters. :thumbsup

If anyone's paying $25 per click I will send them all my traffic without blinking an eye.

I think this thread has taken a wrong turn

and I'm to tired to break it down

rich, you're already full of shit. i checked overture, the term casino has a max bid of $17.45, not $25 like you said, gambling was only $8.88

other interesting terms were
life insurance $6.24
furures $4.99
psychic $7.76



the reason these terms go high is that there isn't a LOT of traffic to them - it's filtered down from the total amount of search engine traffic.

where do you make more money.

10,000,000 hits at .003 cents a click?
100 hits at $17 a hit?

think about it for a second before you answer

The most I've paid at overture is $26 PER CLICK, right now the top bids are going for about $17-$18 PER CLICK. Damn, you tgp guys really believe that you are the be all and the end all in this game. News flash, you're not. You think all casinos are scams, that's so fucking funny. There are some bad apples, but it's a much bigger industry than you realize. A big advertising deal on tgps is what, $15k for the top spot on the hun for a month? lol, think about how many SE clicks that would buy me, not many. I'm not trying to get into a penis measuring contest here, especially with a guy who can't see his let along measure it. Let's agree to disagree, you do your thing, I'll do mine, and we can both think whatever the fuck we want. Just don't post anything approaching Refer Back not paying or you'll be hit with a liable suit so fast you'll wish you were posting anonymous. The top casinos are bigger business than you can imagine, don't learn that the hard way.

I don't doubt that man, it's all about what a member is worth. A player who deposits any amount of funds into a casino is worth at least $175 to me on the average CPA campaign, as opposed to porn members who are worth what, $25-$40 on a good day. Gamblers are addicts bro, exploit them for your own gain like I do. :-)

Right man there are only 100 surfers per day who are looking to gamble online. Keep beliving that, butter pants.

Sue me all you want - in fact PLEASE DO. I'll even forward you my personal info to make it easier. Private Casinos are illegial here in Canada and in MOST countries and places. I'm sure the governing bodies would LOVE to get their fingers into the full details of your little operation - something that would have to be put on the table for a lawsuit to happen as I can GUARENTTE you I'd dig VERY deep and my lawers are very good at what they do. I can even give you the name of my law firm if you want.

best case scenario the gov't here would tax the living SHIT out of you, worst case you'd be thrown in jail, and most liky (99%) it would be the worst case scenario.

Once again, I have not sceen a casino YET that is honest on payouts- why should I think ANY differenly about yours? You havn't provided any reputable or any references for that matter to back up your position. Makes me think you're no different any any of the other casino scam artists.

keep talking shit tough guy

In case nobody saw the other thread, Gary from Sex Promote said he uses and loves Refer Back.

You guys are talking about to totally differant beasts

as long as both your numbers are in the black.
Your both ahead of the curve.

I understand in gamming a good surfer is worth more than adult paysite member. we used to have Casino Granda and a few others a few years ago.
If you have good software and proccessing you will do well.
Its a whole nother beast.

I've tried many gamming programs and never did well but its been a while and I'm up to try it out again.

What about these guys?

http://www.casinotraffic.com/

never heard fo them. but their terms are suspcious. sounds like they advertise 20 cents a click but pay only 3 cents...... least that's what it looks like to me in their TOS.....

"We will pay you a commission equal to twenty cents ($.20) per unique; ............... In the event you fall below our determined conversion rate, you will automatically be placed in the ?per signup? program or paid .03 cents per unique click. .



20 cents a click is a FAR CRY from $25 a click.... something doesn't add up here...hummmmm, maybe it's cause most casinos STIFF their advertisers if business isnt' pre-paid.

That's CEN's program genious, and they're not really even a competitor. They don't buy much casino traffic, they're mostly there to rob porn newbies into giving away their joins for like $50 or whatever it is they pay.

You can say whatever you want Sleazy, more and more I'm realizing thet you're just like the fat gradeschool loser who gets beat up all the time. You can't back up anything you say and you look like a complete jackass so you threaten to "tell on me" to the government. I'm not stupid enough to be anything but 100% legal, so do whatever will make you feel like less of an assclown.

But I do agree that the huge porn company who does advertise all over your precious TGPs runs one of the more, to quote you, "suspcious" of the casino affiliate programs. I wonder how they'd like you implying that they rip of webmasters. Keep your mouth shut from now on unless the topic is tgp galleries.

there is no such thing as a 100% legal casino with website links that work in the USA or Canada.

I don't need to tell on you to, sueing me requires full disclosure. If you've EVER been to court you'd know that. PLEASE SUE ME. what are you afraid of?

dude you should just chill the fuck out. He might be overweight but at least the guy has enough guts to post his pics on the net!

I never said CEN robs anyone - you said that. - I said the terms sounded suspicious and they do. I even quoted what I found to be suspcious and anyone with an IQ over 10 points would agree with that statement looking at the quote from the TOS that I posted. I stand behind what I say, but I'm going to assume if that is CEN's site they won't be too happy with you calling them people who exist to rob newbies. That IS SLANDER and really could get you sued. Obviously you ain't too bright. One can see that from your posts and rants.

Do you reside in Canada or the USA? if you do I wonder how you sleep at night knowing that any of several gov't agencies could bust through your door and arrest you at any moment for running a private casino without a licence........
Have a good night's sleep.

for the record, rich aka [the leader] has posted his full name on gfy several times. first name, last name.

mine's been on GFY before, and I'll post it again. Scott Hjorleifson