It's harder to shoot porn today than it was back in the old days.

What is the lie, Paul?

Robbie doesn't know the reasons you left the UK. And I am not going to go into them.

No lies, paul, just facts.

You seem a little paranoid about something?

The fact that we came to CZ can be seen on the content sites.

Under 500 sets shot in the UK in 10 years. Over 2,000 shot here in under 10 years.

That = $$$$$$$$

And why I'm living in comfort and you're living in a dump, worried if you'll have a job next year.

I beg to differ, if it is a hot scene and I can't see the action, its crap.

I want a hot scene in focus where I can see everything....

The girls are the same its the makers that are different. Not to say that the director's input (What you call the porn bit ) is important... At the end of the day you are making a representation of sex not sex itself. It can be done better...

The industry has found that it does not have to be done well to sell.

It is depressing that all you seem to be argueing for is a little less crap porn...

On the practical side...

You can hire an extremly good camera a SONY EX1 for about $150 a day. This is a great camera and very easy to use with real focus, zoom and f-stops. Like a DSLR. but without being able to change lens.

If you wanted to go up a bit more you could hire an electrician with lights for a few dollars more, there are sparks with experience in the movie industry there that know their stuff and could light your scene like a real movie....

You kind of proved my point there.

Christ on a crutch, if you're not going to go into the reasons he left the UK why don't you just shut the hell up about it.

It's not like anybody cares anyway.

You've become a bigger fucking bore than that one trick pony you keep hating on.

Give it a goddamn rest already.
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Paul, love, I think you are getting confused again.

I said Robbie didn't know why you left the UK. OK?

You called me a liar. Still with me?

I asked how that was a lie, I didn't deny you are in CZ. I stated that.

So, what lie did I tell?

Very easy question.

Because every time I mention it, Paul gets annoyed. This amuses me. Hope that clears up that fucking mystery for ya!

Well you cared enough to post about it. With your great fake nick.

Feel free to put me on ignore, love. Do you see, complaining about something that is SO easy to solve makes you look like a whiny little bitch. You have a problem, and the solution is so easy even DVTimes can do it. So, stop moaning and just put me on ignore.

You have no point. Ever. You are a 1 line snipe with no real opinion about anything. You are so trivial to me you dont even rate my ignore list.

Have a great day!

it is indeed getting annoying now - you are like Waldorf and Stadtler, but not as funny

It is easy i do it on iphone. If model is hot she is hot. Hotter to see her ipics shot by normal sexy guy not perfection picture driven shooter who many times about money not about a girl. The iphone guy shooting girl can shoot her sexier i think.

Plus it is enough quality espesiaaly if that outdoor ))) then light makes it perfect...

Check our content and you will see what i mean. Paul's content as well. )))

This is the lie.

http://www.gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17873308&postcount=75

And this one.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...&postcount=136

Was it my make up artist or my assistant? You can't even get your lies right.

we getting personal on markham now?

What about the challenge at end, i find that more interesting. . . .unless paul has a skelenton in his closet of course haha!

WHY should I stop? I will not stop until certain individuals on this board actually WATCH the content.

ET TU, JUSTDAVE??? - I thought you were smarter than this - at what point did I EVER fucking INFER that I did the Miley video??? Re-read the thread, I never at all claimed it was mine in the least. I certainly like the scene, and that is obvious - please tell your friend great job! Who is it btw?

The only people I am pissing off are those that are ignorant and refuse to watch content. WHAT DO I TALK ABOUT THAT I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. Be VERY specific Dave, I want examples. And thanks for the advice, I was wondering why no one would wire me $!!! Oh wait, that's not true.
I am not a nut job and the only "drug" I use is medical marijuana!

There is plenty of rhyme AND reason. Watch the content. Stop being a jerk.

You're right - I don't care about board etiquette very much at all.


WHAT!?! THIS is my favorite thread in the history of GFY that Paul started - why would I want to "jack" it???

ReggieDurango stfu fuck you are annoying ...

I love you too

The English in this thread is going downhill fast. For the record:

When a person tries to make an assertion about something without saying it outright they imply. A person listening to another speak or reading their words who draws a conclusion not actually stated in the text infers.

When one asks to use an item that another person owns, the word we use in both American and British English is borrow. When one gives out an item to a friend or acquaintance with the expectation of getting it back it's called a loan.

You and DamianJ are trying WAY too hard....You're trying so hard that it is making YOU look like the fool and not Paul....In fact, you're making Paul look like the smart Pariah....

Try shutting the fuck up for once.

Trying WAY too hard for WHAT?

WHAT the F are you talking about?

Let's get this MOFucking thread BACK on track:

PAUL: What is the status of the contract? When did Fabian say you would get the $???

.......

Paul, I didn't "charge" to "give away" free porn. I use nothing but promo tools from the sponsors and I run clean sites that have personality because I do them by hand not a cookie cutter script.

Nobody "leap frogged" me. That would have meant they came up with a great new way to sell porn. That's not what happened. They STOLE shit. Big difference.

I didn't "help create" that bro.

And as far as Brazzers having enough legit content to still run a site like Pornhub...that's bullshit.

The only reason they have that traffic is millions of people come to pornhub to see everybody else's stolen content. Brazzers shit is just tiny promo clips on there.

And don't forget the millions of surfers who do the user uploads and then brag about it on porn dot bb and planet suzy and the thousands of other surfer forums.

Shut all that down...and all Manwin has is a tube site full of promo clips. Just like a tgp

No more stolen content on pornhub = Alexa rating of 1,000,000

And the Brazzers/Jug Cash paysites are and always will be fairly good/ medium selling sites. No more, no less.

You've already proven the point...

This is a challenge between BRAZZERS and PAUL...All the rest of us are just spectators to this circus....However, YOU are trying to inject yourself as some sort of judge and jury to Paul when He clearly doesn't give a fuck about you...

Nothing wrong with being part of the peanut gallery in this circus...But when you take shit too far, it makes it look like YOU just have a personal vendetta....

So STFU and let shit happen naturally...You've already proven your point.

Some sort of JUDGE??? What, Dude, on earth, are you fucking saying right now?
Are you of this earth? Are you a bot?
Paul, you don't "give a fuck about" me - ?? I'm the documentarian, in this case, and I'm going to document Paul. Paul has agreed and I think he likes the idea. What the F is YOUR problem BVF???
Finally, you said I've proven my point. I've proved a point? What point?

You know damn well I'm not a bot...you're a fucking pimple on Paul's ass who refuses to pop and go away.

GTFOH and let them handle their business and quit throwing bullshit comments from the peanut gallery...And this is coming from someone who doesn't give a DAMN about Paul.

What do our opinions of Paul have to do with anything? What do Paul's opinions of us have to do with anything?

I'm SO confused by you. YES, OF COURSE I know damn well you're not a bot!

I Repeat:
PAUL: What is the status of the contract? When did Fabian say you would get the $???

Quite often too much effort on perfect lighting etc seems to take the edge off things.

Worse = better


Rubbish camerawork quite often means you can't see a thing

Yes, I fucked a model or 2,3,50

Actually don't have a clue how many. Damina is plain lying and can't get it straight, first it was an assistant, then a make up artist. What will it be next, the toilet cleaner?

Paul, love, I know you are old, but the links you post are to very old threads.

You accused me of lying in this thread, I asked where, and you post links to totally unrelated threads where you accused me of lying. That's not how this works, man. You need to keep in the same thread or else everyone will get as confused as you!

You've been posting a while now, maybe it's time for a nap or some kitten jigsaw?

I must say though, this is a fucking masterclass in views. You're a genius. We both know you won't go through with this, but the very idea of you sucking the cock of piracy is just SO brilliantly outrageous. Even in my wildest, craziest marketing stunt ideas I wouldn't have thought of this.

THREAD OF THE YEAR.

My hat is off to you, Sir. Well done.

At the moment I'm waiting on a reply to my email to Fabian about the contract. He wants to include the clause about it being delivered in a "Timely Fashion" without stating what that is.

And in a form satisfactory in quality and creativity without stating what that is. If it's like some of the scenes I've seen on Mofos, then I can nail that except might have a problem with the cameras. I think I have a camera lined up but who knows. And as this is about the quality of the shooting and not the camera, the camera is pretty irrelevant.

So it's all in Fabian's court. I can shoot whatever scene he sent me, his instructions are fairly vague. Just a bit about toys, DP and props. Nothing too specific.

Of course a porn scene has to be viewable, but that's not a problem. As for it mattering in porn well that's BS.

Everyone wishes it did matter, then porn Tubes would be defunct. But as we know the millions on them not buying porn anymore don't give a shit. Can you imagine if porn was only wank-able in HD wide-screen top quality image?

Then Internet porn would of never got off the ground. DVDs would still rule.

You've been outed Damian. Sally Rand is busy posing as the girl his parents obviously wanted and you're a woman posing as a man

this thread is my new guilty pleasure

This thread is truly fucking awesome - Has potential to be EXTREMELY awesome

In the future will people have large HD TV sets ?

Will all content, internet, broadcast and disc, in the end be shown on Large HD sets / monitors?

What is the future for poorly shot content at very low bit rates and resolutions?

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DUDE!!! STOP!! JUST STOP!!
WHY should I stop? I will not stop until certain individuals on this board actually WATCH the content.

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I dont know you and im not here to attack you, but i have read your posts about various things. I have also read your thread "on Promote PimpRoll under your IDl" Where PR Dave Wrote; ...

Its also funny how you tried to infer that you shot the MileyXXX video. I know who it was and thats because i call that person friend and we are always brainstorming ideas and concepts. But I knew PR Dave would jump in and set the record straight. And he did.
ET TU, JUSTDAVE??? - I thought you were smarter than this - at what point did I EVER fucking INFER that I did the Miley video??? Re-read the thread, I never at all claimed it was mine in the least. I certainly like the scene, and that is obvious - please tell your friend great job! Who is it btw?

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You are really pissing everyone off. You also talk about things that you know nothing about. Even if you are the best shooter on the net, nobody will ever want to see what you got or wire you money, because you sound like a drug using nut job.
The only people I am pissing off are those that are ignorant and refuse to watch content. WHAT DO I TALK ABOUT THAT I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. Be VERY specific Dave, I want examples. And thanks for the advice, I was wondering why no one would wire me $!!! Oh wait, that's not true.
I am not a nut job and the only "drug" I use is medical marijuana!

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You quote your self 20 times in a single thread, you create spam threads and you bring one thread subject into another with out any rhyme or reason.
There is plenty of rhyme AND reason. Watch the content. Stop being a jerk.

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I'm not here to insult you or pee in your Cherios, but you need to cut this shit out. You come off as a "Batt Shit Crazy" person with no concept of board etiquette.
You're right - I don't care about board etiquette very much at all.


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I'm not going to say that you suck or your work sucks, but if you are proud of your work make a thread and post your work in that thread.

As i see it you are trying to "thread Jack" a 13 page thread that you really have no business being in. That is rude, disrespectful to everyone in this thread and is one good way to piss everyone off.

Hope you take what I say as constructive and as roadmap on how to act and not act on this board.
WHAT!?! THIS is my favorite thread in the history of GFY that Paul started - why would I want to "jack" it??? """




The worst part of this, JustDave, is that I really liked your production company's name!

SORRY Guys, I am NOT trying to thread jack this AWESOME thread

JustDave just needs to inform himself a little more before he posts...

ReggieDurango stop thread jacking.

Jesus Christ Agent 488 You are a fucking MORON

FABIAN, you are reasonable. UNLIKE Agent 488...

Paul wrote this, "At the moment I'm waiting on a reply to my email to Fabian about the contract. He wants to include the clause about it being delivered in a "Timely Fashion" without stating what that is."

Fabian, can you just give Paul what he wants contract-wise so we can get this show on the road???

Already happening. Not ALL people, but most. In fact won't all TV be put out in HD, in developed countries which are still our core market, eventually and the viewer will have little option but to upgrade?

Yes. But will the content be HD high quality images?

If the scene is good the future is fine. Tube prove the viewer doesn't NEED HD to jerk off.

It's a nice bonus, however for many not worth paying $1 a day for. Will viewers watching porn be put off by seeing every wart, pimple and scar in HD?

We sell an illusion of what is real. The closer we get to that illusion the better it is. However getting too close to the wrong illusion might put people off.

If the illusion is spoilt by bad shooting, bad acting, bad faking then the illusion is shattered. If the scene contains more close ups of genitalia than is required it loses it's illusion, because most pussies and asses look the same.

Our core market is older guys who have honed their tastes and know what the difference is between bad, average and great porn. We seem to cater for guys who just turned 21 and we don't realise these guys will get off to almost anything. Which is free on Tubes.

Sorry Robbie I thought you used to run/own a big TGP site and assumed you sold top spots and banners on it.

As for laws changing the game you live in a dream world.

If ALL piracy becomes illegal and the law is strictly enforced. ALL porn Tubes will be on level playing field and the ones with the most licensed content will still have all the traffic.

The only thing that will save us is if anything requiring 2257 or that level is put behind a payment system and even then Pornhub will charge $1 for a lifetime membership. The glory days of porn are over for most. Free porn has brought this about. Any dreams that it will all change are just that dreams.

For a short while the best way IMO to make money is to have something really worth signing up and staying for and not to rely on masses of traffic to get a sale or replace the members leaving by the back door.

In a few years the porn industry will be a shadow of what it is with sites giving it away for free to sell adverts. Some will still make a living, but most will have moved on.

Now, who do you want to watch it? I will find them and make them watch if you quit posting your content and your other threads in this thread. (thats a thread Jack)

Smarter that what? Than you? Really? Question my intelligence? Im not going to play the game on who is smarter than who, but I definitely know that i am smart enough to not fight and piss off a whole board.

Please list these ignorant people that refuse to watch your content. I need this list so i can make them watch your content.


If that will make you act right, consider it done.

Bam!! This post and and everything you have posted. And this

thread

. Thanx for my proof.



Well it doesn't seem to be working to well for you, maybe you should quit.

And next you are going to tell me that it is legal right? Last i read, Local law cannot supersede government law.

Now if you are going to tell me that i don't know what the fuck im talking about, i got a challenge for you: You and i will go to the local Police department and i will be there with a video camera, When the 1st cop comes out, You will spark up, I will video tape it, then when he goes to arrest you, pull out your "Medical Marijuana" Card and lets see if he lets you go.


My bet will be no, and you do get arrested.

I thought that i have been very polite and helpful with my advice.



Yea, we can all see that. You have been put on ignore and You fight with people that i like and respect. Thats bad.

GFY why is a place where people contribute and share and you dont want to have "Board etiquette?' Good luck with that.




????

Yea, i already said enough.

Smut Peddler Production 4 EVA SON!


JustDave, I will get to this more, but first, have you watched my content? With sound?

I sold nine text links a month in my "What's Hot" section for $6000 each. And each one of those text links went to a paysite.

All my top spots and banners I kept for myself (programs I promote with my affiliate code on them)

And even if I did sell a banner ad on my main page...how would that hurt our business? My main page always was full of humor (I stopped doing the daily humor 3 years ago because there were so many dedicated humor sites that it didn't matter), polls to vote on, a blog section, games to play, etc.

I told you before...we made people rich in this business. We HELPED the business as well as enriched ourselves. The way it's supposed to be.

What Manwin and other companies that steal are doing is they are conducting a "Scorched Earth" campaign and just destroying sales for everybody but themselves.

Totally different concept. There was a reason why we would go to shows and be treated like kings by every paysite owner. They loved the sales we sent and the money we made them.

I highly doubt any paysite owners out there who have watched their sales plummet over the last 3 years would be treating Fabian like a king now...unless they desperately were trying to sell their program and paysites to him and get out of the business.

Reposting what's important at the moment so there is NO confusion about thread jacking.

Agent 488 - wow, more on you later

I guess we could say this thread is.... DUH! Winning!

Sorry I was wrong then.

But the practice of filling sites with poor content and solving it by throwing traffic at it, first hit the magazine business a body blow, then the DVD business and now your business. Poetic justice. But keep thinking it's about stolen content. It's never was and never will be. It's about getting a 1,000 views and 1 sign up. Now it's just escalated to 10,000 views and 1 sign up. But usually via an advert.

TGPs started it and Tubes perfected it.

You live in the past and the clock isn't rotating anti clockwise.

Those who made their money, like me are sitting back and laughing at all those left struggling. If you had made a sign up every second you would be sitting on a beach getting a tan. Or your server would of crashed everyday. That's 86,400 sign ups a day. Or in other words $432,000 profit a day at $5 a sign up. $1,296,000 a day at 50% rev share.

I doubt if you did 1 a minute. But keep believing the spin.

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Maybe that's one of the problems of online porn. People delivered spin that was illogical and everyone swallowed it.

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If the scene is good the future is fine. Tube prove the viewer doesn't NEED HD to jerk off.

It's a nice bonus, however for many not worth paying $1 a day for. Will viewers watching porn be put off by seeing every wart, pimple and scar in HD?

We sell an illusion of what is real. The closer we get to that illusion the better it is.
If the illusion is spoilt by bad shooting, bad acting, bad faking then the illusion is shattered. If the scene contains more close ups of genitalia than is required it loses it's illusion, because most pussies and asses look the same.

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If you had used a HD camera I think you would know that girls can look better than in SD.
Tubes and free porn LOOK TERRIBLE if blown up on to a large HD TV.

Don't hire girls covered in spots, use powder for the odd one. All pussies and asses are different, as different as a face.

What is this "quality" you are going to add to this shoot ?

For this content I believe people will pay and will have to pay for the bandwidth and the production quality. Of course there is a market for free and cheap porn, there is free and cheap drama on TV, and there is cinema people pay to see, HBO people pay to see, and still people buying quality material on disc.

I you add little value to the shoot then why should people pay to see it?

It is like you have never seen good photography, good cinema or TV...why should porn be judged any differently from other media?

Your logic would be "It looks more real people being killed on amateur video" therefore Hollywood should shoot all its films like "Blair Witch", but they don't and audiences like films in cinemas shot professionally.

Do you still think you can't change lenses on a DSLR ?

I didn't deliver any spin. Dude, I live in a 5600 sq. foot house in Las Vegas that I just bought in 2008. I'm living VERY well thank you.

I made plenty of money for both myself and others. And you are dead wrong about TGP's

As I said earlier...I have respect for you as a photographer. And I won't show you any disrespect in any other way. But I think you're ignorant of what I do as an affiliate.

You keep saying that TGP's did this and tgp's did that. But you're dead wrong.

First off...most "tgp" sites that came around after the year 2000 weren't even "real" tgps. They were circle jerk scripts.

There were and are only a handful of REAL tgps. Yes, there are countless thousands of sites running a script. But only a handful of us real guys who had honest traffic.

As for "living in the past"...I'm not sure where you came up with that. I am only pointing out to you that we did not steal anything and we always made a LOT of money with all of our partners. I'm definitely not trying to claim that my tgp's have big traffic anymore. That's all over at Pornhub now. And who can blame the surfers? They have a choice of looking at galleries and reading my blog and then buying a membership OR seeing everything for free.

I can't compete against that. But I still make more money as an affiliate with my tgp's than most of the people (including you) in this thread. And by not "living in the past" I make 5 times that amount of money on Claudia-Marie's site.

That's not hype. I've shown people my stats both in private and right here on GFY a couple of times as well. I have nothing to hide and always welcome competition (unlike all the "mystery millionaires" here on GFY who can't tell you what their site is or what they actually do because someone will "steal" it)

I know you think you have it all figured out and that tubes were just a natural evolution of TGP's.

NO! They aren't. Illegit tubes have "user upload" which equals stolen content and are not designed to sell paysite memberships.

My tgp's on the other hand have NO stolen content and are designed totally to sell memberships.
It's not even the same business model...much less a tube "perfecting" anything.

We didn't "give away" free porn. We use promo tools given to us. I already explained to you a while back that there is a "sweet spot".

You are talking in theory on this subject...but I'm telling you as an expert who does it for a living. A hosted gallery with 12 pictures or 4 30 second clips will outsell any softcore advertising that you can think of. Day in and day out.

But NO advertising, soft or hard, works when the entire members areas of the sites you are trying to sell are being given away for free.

And again..NO... TGP's running galleries did not destroy magazines and DVD sales.

The convenience and privacy of the internet did that.

If ALL free porn on the internet was gone right now...and all you could do was buy a membership to a paysite online to see porn...Magazines and DVD sales would still be in the shitter and paysite sales would skyrocket.

It's not hosted galleries that killed us. That made incredible money for everybody for over 10 years online. That only stopped when illegit tubes like Pornhub (and of course bit torrent and file sharing sites) exploded and just started openly stealing everyone's content and hiding behind the DMCA law.

I know you don't believe me. But then again...selling porn online wasn't your expertise. It's mine. And I won't argue with you about a proper Fstop even though I do shoot a nice pic every once in a while.

I consider you to be more an expert and one thing I know is that when I meet someone who knows more than I do on a particular subject...I'm gonna listen. You should do the same.

That's a great read

It's well written, easy to read and factual to the point of being undebatable.

I especially liked the last part. A tasty two line nugget of wisdom that's good common sense to some and unrecognizable to others.

I guess that's what makes this thread so entertaining