DamianJ

300 people who know Paul is hard trollin'

ReggieDurango

Fabian, I feel as blue-balled by the lack of Paul's script as a surfer on pornotube lacking 5 min+ clips!!
HAHA! JK my realtouch peeps!

Fabian, can you at least hint as to what genre (comedy? parody? tragedy?) Paul's script will be?

DamianJ

If Markham is shooting it it'll be all three. Comedy as we laugh. Parody of what real porn should be. Tragedy as he realises he actually can't do any better than those he criticises. And never could.

ReggieDurango

Haha!!!!

Paul Markham

Thank you.

I have seen it and compared with what I call good it's not. It's the average that most sites have or should have as a minimum. If you want to see good HC in the same niche and style talk to Shap. The HC on Twistys is good.

The problem with Brazzers HC, from the scenes I saw, is simple. It's too faked, contrived over all not a good product. It's average and some of the scenes, like the one I posted a link to are simply bad. Have you seen it?

Brazzers HC scene

The mistakes are very basic and IMO should not be on the site.

As for being better now, no way physically. I'm 3 years out of shooting, invalid and no where near what I was physically. Does it make the wealth of knowledge I picked up in 33 years less valuable today? NO. Can I adapt my style to what is required today? Yes there's nothing that different, it's just that I won't for $500 a solo girl scene sold outright. Made enough over the years to not have to.

As for being better when I was at my height. I was either better or all the shooters shooting custom for the prices paid were fools. Because I worked in a market that out paid custom by up to a factor of 10. Now what is it, were they as good as me in 2007 or were they fools? They could of worked in both fields. They could of worked in Custom, Content Store or magazines or video.

Either a better business man or a better shooter. Or a lot of fools were shooting very cheap.

AND MORE IMPORTANTLY. What mainstream shooter of note has shot custom work, besides the little we did, or for the Internet other than his own site? The answer is none. The guy shooting for Perfect Gonzo went to Evil Angel, Vid Vicious, who was good, left the Internet. Both for more money.

No one has come back and been able to tell me who of the mainstream porn shooters moved the other way. When I saw Fabian's post about how much he paid, I emailed him to ask if he would like me to ask a few contacts about working for him. Guys whose track record includes working for the top companies in porn, all niches. He ignored the it. Because he knows these guys will not work for the money he offers. He doesn't even want to discuss it.

I'm one of many mainstream shooters who refuse to work for the prices custom pays today. Where do you see the people like Jack Harrison, Bill Wright, Kevin Maklin, Scott Ward, Viv Thomas, Steve Colby and they're just the English guys, shooting custom. All are shooters who are "guns for hire" pay them enough and they will shoot for paysites. In NO WAY AM I THE ONLY SHOOTER who refuses to work for what is paid for custom today.

In no way do I blame any custom shooter working for what is given, if that's all they can get then fine. I blame sponsors who think shooters should work for peanuts.

How ever I have seen inside a few sites, some of whom the owners post here. And pointed out the basic mistakes of their content. Especially on stills. What I saw would never ever of sold to magazines, there were far better shooters to select from.

One of the custom shooters who is praised here for anything could never of sold what I saw of his work anywhere else but on the Internet. It had many basic mistakes, the worse was a lack of landscape frames and the repeating of pictures. Other things like the lack of covering all the poses, getting some wrong and the fact that in full frame the picture was fuzzy (due to the shooter trying to shoot the ceilings lights glowing and using a wide aperture) made the whole set unusable for print.

I've seen the same mistakes over and over again. None of these site owners have said a word in this thread, they dare not.

As for videos. Shooting a girl standing for a long period on a wide screen video result in a nice scene of THE ROOM. the girl fills only a small part of the frame. The first thing I was taught was to fill the frame. Added to this the same cheesy scenario, faked acting and sex, overlong shots of the same position (on Brazzers to stretch out the length of scene) and the whole thing starts to lose a lot of it's appeal.

I was taught very early on that the reason most porn scenes are 20 minutes is that's the longest it needs for a man to jerk off. The opening minute is crucial if it doesn't grab the viewer by the balls it has little chance of getting better.

Today the customers attention is even more important to grab than it was in 2005 and before. Today paysites compete with Tubes. If a site isn't worth joining and staying for the content alone, the revenue is going to reflect that.

If you would like me to review your work give me a pass into a site with it on and I will take a look and give you a constructive appraisal of the content.

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Nathan

Paul, you have no clue, sorry.. you have absolutely no clue what today's porn paying customer wants... no clue whatsoever...

It is rather sad that you continue on your rampage that our content is average as best, although EVERYONE disagrees with you... you do not even START to think about "hmm, maybe people's preferrered type of porn changed"...

So, the reason I want you to shoot for us is that I want to see where YOU THINK you are SO MUCH BETTER (as you have claimed over and over again, and stop now saying that you are sick and its not really true, that's just stupid... you talk of BASIC MISTAKES here all the time...)

And why have I not come to you and asked for you to get me in contact of some shooters? Because I know them all, my team knows them all, and we do tests with producers every month. We have actually just yesterday found someone who's style we like a lot, so are seeing where to best use him.

The thing you seize to understand is that our production partners that we have exclusively make far more money than you ever made. I have been tempted to tell you the amount of money we spend on content each month over and over again, but I just won't do it because I fear you'll get a heartattack and we'll nolonger have your wisdom on this board...

I hope to have a script for you today...

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Paul Markham

Fabian's called me out to get some Bro points. He didn't think it through. He didn't think I'm not well enough to shoot it properly.

I said I would come back if somebody would pay $3,000 for a set.

https://gfy.com/17937802-post66.html

Which was what we earned for a decent solo girl set. He said video. I will shoot a set far better than what's on his site. Because I can do it laying, kneeling and sitting. The video, well time will tell. Yes I said this later.

To come out of retirement I need more than 1 scene.

Yes people turn up and are in the wrong frame of mind. Shooting for magazines you either got them out of it or sent them home. There was no trying to make something out of it. The work was taken by an editor if it was good enough up to a month after, it was published on average 6 months after, we were paid 1-2 months after that. If the boy or girl wasn't good enough we sent them home. Never risk money on a lame horse.

Even if I have to pay for a location, flight to Spain, MU artist and everything else. One of the models walked if they were not good enough. There was no point in adding the cost of film and models money to the bill. Never throw good money after bad. The best event is to pull a solo set/sets off the day. The videos posted as "samples" would never of been shot if they were to be sold into a market with the same risks as the magazine market. They were shot for the content store and we knew sites would buy almost anything.

I'm not alone in this practice, good shooters or directors don't work with bad models. They kick them out. Letting a model get away with shit has led to the way so many of them model today. 10 years ago they dare not work like that in the UK or here in CZ. Bad performers result from shooters putting up with bad models antics, attitudes and crap performances. The effect that has had on todays porn is obvious.

SEND THEM HOME.

I would like to see inside the site, if Fabian doesn't give me a pass I will buy one and take a look. I'm pretty sure I can shoot a better set than what he has and that's where the money was. The video might be a problem because of my physical limits and the model and the script.

I used to love shooting girl girl where they were really into each outh and over the years shot some pretty good stuff.

























Stuff there from 1985 to very recent. But is it about who shoots the best? No. Someone on $500 or $700 a solo girl scene really can't shoot good content, or won't as he should be able to earn more elsewhere. If not now definitely a few years ago.

It's about money. And that's what spends in the shops. Not "I'm a better shooter than you."

This thread was meant to point out the problems todays shooters face. Like budgets, bad models for the reasons you stated and other things. Trolls turned it into a contest and trolling fest.

I'm off for a rest. Been here far too long.

Lastly. Look at who shoots for Evil Angel, Wicked, Vivid, Hustler, Private, Digital Desires and countless others and answer why don't they work for Manwin, Bangbros and others on the Internet only?

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Nathan

Paul, we do not shoot with people that shoot for Evil Angel, Wicked and so on because those people shoot for DVD. Its a different market! If we shot for DVD and then released online, totally different....

Anyway, we will not force a girl on you. You can pick your own that fits the scene we want. We will also not make a over-complicated scene. I want to see you shoot so much better than our other shooters...

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come on paul you can do it!
Now is your chance to prove it or shush forever, if you're physically incapable of executing the theory you mentioned due to your illness, then to an extent thats understandable, but cmon!! Show them what you can or cant do!

Nathan

To make this very clear... Paul, if you think you can not do it, tell me know. I will not like it paying you and then you dropping out...

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plsureking

its just a solo. my mom can shoot a solo.

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This thread is brilliant.

Paul spouts shit all day.

Paul gets called on it.

Paul bottles it.

No one could have seen that coming.

How cowardly.

Paul Markham

Then let's have some names. Easy to say harder to name. I may know them and can have a chat with them. I did email you about knowing a lot of people who are at the top and would work for decent money, you ignored me. People who work or have worked for Private, Bluebird, Silwa, Magma, Scala and more.

If you are employing top shooters, you're one of the very few and even though I don't like your business practice. Disagree with your content practice of 3 sets of average quality instead of 2 that would set a new bench mark, I realise Manwin is a big company. Just don't know enough except for the BS I see here. Never seen a list of Manwin's sites or proof Manwin is as big as you say. Even the 300 people in the office listed seemed a bit doubtful based on my knowledge of what space it takes for 300 people.

But we know we can all take you at your word.

If you pay me I will do it. Whether I'm physically able to do it is for both of us to see. Whether I can match what's in the site in shooting ability is yet to be seen as you won't give me a login to see what is your bench mark. You know I will download it as a comparison.

As I said if anyone pays me $3,000 for a set I will come back to shooting. I wish more would, I won't be invalid for ever I hope. And it would give a lot of colleagues a boost in their incomes. Sadly I expect the industry to carry on spending the lions share of money on what's outside the site and too little on the product.

So far no one has even commented on the golfing scene.

As far as the stills are concerned I'm pretty confident. As far as the video is concerned it's unknown territory. I will have to load the car with equipment, set it up, shoot the stills, take a nap about then and finish with the video. But Fabian threw this at me knowing I'm not fully fit so it's a gamble for both of us.

If Fabian had any business sense he would employ me or someone like me to shake up his content guys. Take them and teach them the real way to shoot, models, setting, clothing, scenario, intro to a scene (better than a girl wiggling around for 5 minutes boring everyone) angles, sequence and how to get a product that truly stands out and can compete at the highest level. He prefers to troll GFY.

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Altwebdesign

Maybe he would offer to employee you if you did a brilliant job? Get someone to assist you, someone metioned being sat in the directors chair, it's not a bad idea you know. . . But i'm sure you'll do what ever you see fit!

Paul Markham

Just Dave came up with a very good point. That I thought about.

If a bad model doesn't perform for any reason he says a good shooter carries on and puts it right in the editing. After thinking about it I disagree, so nothing new there.

A good shooter who has the option tells her/him to get their act together, if he/she doesn't he tells her/him to go home. For these reasons. From now it's her but could be him.

He doesn't want to establish the reputation of being someone who uses girls who will do any less than their best, to get his product as good as possible. He doesn't want her thinking he will accept this level in case she comes back again.

A poor performance can't be edited out.

Also does he want the next shooter to have a girl who thinks less than her best is acceptable? He might be the next shooter taking a girl from a shooter or shooters who did accept this and now he has all the problems.

Does he want to put his name next to a product that's less than the best? Risk getting a bad rep with customers or even losing customers.

EVERY time a shooter accepts a poor performance the bench mark drops. Today some of the girls performances would get them sent home. So why is this?

Maybe customers who will put a less than tip top product in their site, maybe he's been paid, told to shoot the girl, been given the script and has no option.

I do know that as time went by being here girls were turning up with bad habits and bad attitude, just no real enthusiasm. We told them what we wanted and the reply was "No one else complains" to which I replied "We're not no one else." Even when we told them to go home some turned around and told us we couldn't say that because we had to shoot them. They learned differently.

Maybe others did have to shoot them. We couldn't afford to.

Why do so many surfers prefer Amateur? Might be they are sick of girls faking a bad performance.

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Sadly a lot of content looks like your Mum did shoot it.

And that is what this is about. It's not whether I can shoot as well as I did, whether my physical capabilities will match my knowledge or just about me.

It's about the product we sell. It's not selling like it used to and that's because less want to buy it. The customers are clearly sick of putting up with shooters who will put it right in the editing, don't know how to frame a shot or get the sequence right or will accept a performance from a model who clearly isn't trying very hard.

That;s not the shooters fault. That's the sponsor fault. For thinking like ATK, Karups, and more that a girl can do 5 scenes in a day. Do 3 lesbian or HC in a day, making the shooter get something from the day or him having to get something from the day. Because he can get his money from the sponsor so long as it's 30 minutes long and 300 stills images.

No scene needs to 30 minutes long unless it's really really good. No set needs 300 shots. Even Crescent only wanted 200 and most could make a good set out of 120. But now quantity is better over quality.

Better to put up 3 average scenes than 2 outstanding ones. So on the tour they can boast 1,000s of hours and 100,000 shots.

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plsureking

in the last decade i spent a year on set with Hegre and 4 years at Matt's Models. both of them produce horrible, low quality, boring video. Hegre is praised as the best photographer in the industry but his videos put me to sleep.

solos are easy. even if you have to shoot 2 takes to get it right, you can get enough film to put together a decent video. hardcore is a different beast and is the majority of demand in this business. solo is a joke.

i don't think u are proving anything by shooting a solo video and i highly doubt it will be different than what you've been producing for 30 years. a shooter doesn't change his shooting style, especially after 3 decades. it will look like lollipop 90s euro garbage. the Paul Markham signature style!

nevertheless, you continue to insult and demean your new client. now calling him a liar and a troll? weird business ethics.

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paul, we did tests with our members, asked them and all, what they would prefer...

and 30 minutes it is.. accept it or not, I honestly do not really care.

Regarding the remark about shooters.. I said we DO NOT use big DVD shooters, it is completely wrong for online. But you seem to ignore that and go on with how I should name names of the big boys we work with...

very strange...

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Agent 488

paul the shit you shot at the top of your game is hilarious to watch today.

nathan should get you to shoot in your normal style for a porn comedy / parody site.

it would be a hit.

Altwebdesign

Markham, hes got a point, over 300 messages later, do it man!!!
Cut everything, make no excuses, either you will do it or wont, dont feel you have to elaborate on your decision, just make one, suspense is killin me!
I for one want to see you, hopefully, do a great job!

Cherry7

Before the movie is made, and to stop arguments afterwards can we establish

What is a good porn film?

Technical, Performance, Artistic..... Or maybe the number of wanks / hundred punters

a wankometer ?

Maybe you should consider choosing some judges.....

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Nathan

Paul, important, will you be signing the contract with a company or yourself personally?

EMail me the details pls.

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Paul Markham

So why didn't those guys sell more to magazines? They couldn't.

So if solo is so easy why do so many suck at it?

What I produced for the last 30 years made us real money. Good or bad is pointless it's about money. Bro points count for nothing. Our Euro garbage sold for real money. Not $700 a scene FINISHED. But keep flaming.

We made enough to say what I think about Fabian. He talks shit. First he employs people who shoot for Evil Angel and Wicked, then called out to name them shuts up. The only difference between online and offline porn is online porn gives is away in the truck load. Like Pornhub. The idea that someones taste change if the buy off the net is BS.

It's sad watching people having to kiss the ass of someone who will use their content without permission to make a buck. But they have to make a buck today.

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I will sign it. I'm not part of the company anymore, don't you read this thread?

I will sign it when I have approved it and have all my things lined up. I don't sign contracts half cocked.

Replied to your email.

I WILL NEED A LOGIN TO YOUR SITE TO SEE WHAT THE STANDARD IS. WITHOUT THAT I'M IN THE DARK ABOUT WHAT I'M SHOOTING AT.

If you wont give it to me we can all assume why. I need to better than your guys and see what you think is acceptable or do I have to be better than you buy?

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Agent 488

can't afford a buck?

http://enter.mofosnetwork.com/signup/signup.php

plsureking

you've filled this thread with thousands and thousands of words trying to convince everybody you know something. but you know something none of us care about. magazines? who reads magazines? my dad jerked to mags 20 years ago. that's how relevant you are. wake up and smell the new century.

just my of course.

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Paul, you are really taking disrespect to a whole new level here. Insulting the client that is hiring you over and over again. Bragging about how your work is better than every other shooter when in fact your style has a very dated look to it, and on top of that is limited to non- (or barely) English speaking European models. And worse of all, before you have even signed the contract you are already preparing your excuse as to why the work won't be as great as you claimed it would be because of your lack of up to date video equipment and overall poor health. You have had a long successful career but even with that you don't know everything. You really ought to be ashamed of yourself with your carrying on in this thread.

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Paul Markham

Who cares about magazines?

Today nobody, even though they're still buying and some might be paying better than $700 outright.

3 years ago and before every shooter shooting exclusive should of been bothered. They outpaid this market by a fact of 10. Wake up and realise magazines didn't die in 1990.

Look at the date of the Barely Legal Front cover. February 2006, we got $2,600 for that set, non exclusive. But you pull up your Dad, ignoring the patently obvious.

Where's your site?

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here we go with the BULLSHIT....There are Brazzers passes all over the fucking net...And there are Brazzers videos all over the net....Either way, once the password is given, there will be yet ANOTHER demand...

All this rigamaroll over a solo girl scene?

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The new level is low IMO. Low in what it pays and how it operates.

And he's not really a client. He wants a one off deal so he can gain some bro points and take away the limelight from his Tubes having other people pirated content on.

As for my dated content. When was the last time up to date content paid $2,600 for one non exclusive set? Who cares if it's dated, it's about the money? Same goes for whose beter or worse. If anyone is better than me then fine. In the magazine field I was never rated as a good shooter. Middling at best. But I made money.

As for my lack of up to date equipment, that's an excellent way for Fabian to get out of it. Equipment doesn't show ability to shoot porn. He knows or should of known about my health, he also knows about what I think of him. He took up my offer.

I don't know everything. What I do know is shooting for the prices offered today isn't going to make you or any other shooter rich. Also knew that shooting exclusive was a money losing operation. Anyone who couldn't earn more non exclusive wasn'y very good at something.

And the Adult Internet is coming to a close. Not this year but it's coming to a close.

The reason is simple. Free is an cultural thing now, enforced by years of getting it for free with no come back. Added to that Tubes are a better option for more people than paying. If you haven't made your money in porn by now, you're not going to make it in the future.

Not my words, the words of one of the site owners who did make it. Posted today.
Why do I keep replying? Because trolls keep replying and so far none have shown me proof to back their words, like a login to their sites.

So far I've not seen any site that has content that would of sold to mags other than Alsscan, Hegre couldn't. Just not the poses and shots. I'm sure there is, but waiting for someone to give me a link and pass.

And yes it does matter.

Building sites with content anyone can shoot with a decent camera is the worse business model for porn online. Because the rest is even easier, put up a site, affiliate program and throw traffic at it. Conversions and retention will suck. But that's been sucking for years.

Build something every Tom Dick and Harry can't, then throw traffic at it and set yourself apart for the rest. Manwin can afford to do that, yet don't/ Fabian trolls that members want long 30 minute solo girl videos. Which is why for 50 years the industry has been shooting 20 minute scenes.

Look at the sample video to see how boring it gets. It's 5 minutes of nothing to kick it off.

So far no one has commented on his content.

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Agent 488

maybe people are being paid well, but based upon the quality of your content they don't want to pay you that much? not hard to understand ...

plsureking

u probably dont realize this but 2006 was half a decade ago.

i mentioned my dad to show the difference between what the last generation of porn buyers wanted - mags - and what the younger generations want - hardcore reality based porn. theres intelligent thought in my simple post but it went over your head. thats ok. no one in this long thread respects you and you dont respect anyone in this business. so we are at equilibrium.

no i dont own sites but over 150 clients pay me every month to use my software. i learned a long time ago that theres more money in selling software than running a single site using the software. old knowledge that is still relevant. how much of your ancient knowledge is still relevant?

batter up.

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Nathan

I'm confused... you say "you will sign" then you say that you are not part of the company anymore, and accuse me of not reading the thread...

But interestingly enough, you sent me details of who to do the contract with, and it is with a company? Make up your mind....

And I know you said you want a login, you'll get one....

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Nathan

Just FYI... I just sent a login to Paul

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go on paul, view the scenes, get your head together and do this!!

JustDaveXxx

There is no putting crap footage right in post/editing. Crap in, Crap out..


You are correct. I do break it down to the talent on what i need and use the "send them home" card as a tool to get what i need done.


What you may not understand is when a client wants "that girl', and that girl only, i need to do what ever it takes to get my scene done, short of turning in a poorly shot scene. If I feel that the scene quality is going to suffer, I will "kill" it. Fortunately for me I shoot mostly Boy/Girls and i use top males that can pound me out a good scene even if the girl is half assing it on my set. Having a solid male is way under rated.


I generally edit all of my scenes and i know 1st hand what is usable and not usable when it comes to shooting content. I usually edit my scenes before dinner. Takes me about 20 min. max after its loaded onto the time line.



As far as reputations, I have one of the most solid reputations in Porn Valley. I dont bang or fuck with talent what so ever. Not because i cant, but because there is a lot of work that needs to get done(stills+video) and I do represent the companies that I shoot for. When the girls know that they are working for me, they know it is a job 1st and foremost. The agents tell the girls what to expect when they work for me. No Creepy Director, just work and nobody is getting payed if it doesn't get done right.


When you have a reputation for sending lazy girls home, when you absolutely do not flirt with these girls, when you show them no interests in them other than getting the task at hand done, they will sense it, and will work hard to get the scene done. Cash same day pay is a serious scene motivator. No checks, no check cashing places, no hassles, just cash. Gives me a good scene every time.(2 week company check payroll is the norm in Porn Valley)


These girls do know that we directors do talk and there are a lot of girls that do not work as a result of negative situations that they have caused on other sets. Poor performances and set bullshit has a way of self regulating out here.

Agreed

I agree with you on all of your points Paul.

I care about me, my work and my clients work. If others want to accept shit as work, good for them and their clients. These other directors are slowly getting weeded out. Furthermore these directors make me and other quality directors look that much better. God bless them all.


Good Luck with your shoot Paul. All bullshit aside to get 7 pages on a thread on GFY these days is pretty genius of you. No matter how you do on your Brazzers shoot, you definitely have my respect for stepping up.

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Paul Markham

The login doesn't work and was for another site, so no progress there. If you want to try it to check I'm not screwing up somewhere you're welcome.

I'm looking forward to shooting it actually. I'm doing more for my satisfaction than anything else. It will be nice to see after the last 2.5 years of events if I can shoot again. And doing it on Manwin's money makes it even sweeter.

Can I shoot to the standard I could 5 years ago?

You know, the standard that sold for $3,000 a SET. And you keep ownership and still sell today. Rather than the new high standard that pays $700 (if you're bloody lucky), that requires a set and a video, very expensive hi calibre equipment and you lose ownership.

No this is going to be more interesting for me than anyone else. Worked out I will shoot the set, build a rapport with the model and then do the video. Eva can take a few shots of me shooting the video unless the girl is very comfortable and works well with her in the room. The trolls who think they can shoot me shooting a solo girl scene are obvious clueless of how to shoot solo girl or want to make it harder.

Maybe they think I should me, a shooter doing BTS, a make up artist, an assistant and the hotel valet in the room to make it more cosy.

Who cares if trolls believe I shot it or not. Its all about what I think of my work, how much it makes and nothing to do with trolls.

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I have no idea what it like in porn valley. I do know in the UK and CZ, flirting with a model in a certain style brought out the best in her. The girl just has to realise it's about the work and getting the best out of her.

If she's full of herself, which some very attractive girls are, your way will work well and I've used it. Other wise I flirt, compliment and at points even act like a dirty old man. It just got the essential communication I needed from a newbie to make her better. The line is when they think it's not about work and about me getting a freebie.

John Mason worked the same, Colby was charm personified and Harrison was downright dirty. He would flirt the girl in his Slavic accent and it worked. Maybe in the Valley with US girls you can't do that. With seasoned pro models it often worked as well. It was all down to her personality and none of us had a rigid one way of shooting. We adapted to the girl.
Agreed

I would love to see your work, can you show me some? Sadly to many today do accept below par performances and content. But not the customers.

As for the shoot, I'm looking forward to doing it as a one off, to see what my physical capabilities are today. Can I shoot like I used to?

Can I shoot better than what She's a Freak has?

What ever, I will walk away with with Manwin's money.

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Nathan

The login does not work, that is correct.. but its not for another site!

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Paul Markham

The email said mofos.com

I wanted to look in http://www.shesafreak.com/tour/home

and ended up here http://members2.mofos.com/members/badlogin/

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Nathan

Hard to understand, I know...

mofos.com is the network SAF is in.. Thus, the SAF members area is mofos.com

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DamianJ

*shudder*

Paul Markham

Yes, so far beyond your comprehension level I know.

How many sets have you ever shot in your life?

Me, it has to be in excess of 2,000.

Then how much did you earn from shooting those sets? Not enough to buy a sofa.

Stick to talking about piracy, on that you're an expert. On shooting porn or glamor you're an idiot.

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Paul,
I have no axe to grind with you, but after reading 7 pages of this, well, my elbow started itching. The thing is, for the last 12 years I, too, have been knocking out content. And like you, started out with magazine work. But there is a reason that it's called "the past". You know, because, it's like....behind us. Sometimes it's difficult to find our place/relevance within such an ever accelerating business as this. So maybe, we should just rest on our laurels. You had you time, hopefully you put something aside for a rainy day. But accept that your day is done. Let it go. You are beginning to remind me of the minor pop star continually touring on the basis of one minor hit. You have become a caricature, when it would of been better to be an enigma.
On a more serious note, your shrill know-it-all voice, appearing on so many boards, spouting absolutely irrelevant nonsense (and with an air of total superiority), leads to a gross mis-representation of the business of content producing, and of content producers themselves, non of whom wishes to be tarred with the same brush as you. Pride can be a terrible hindrance, as we can see in your ways of dealing with possible client. Get down off your high-horse...it is dead and fossilized.
I am sorry to be writing this. You and your's both had the cold hand of Dr D touch your shoulders. So look forwards to making something brighter before he comes again for the final call. Stop this trying to bring a past best left dead back to life. It's not healthy.
PS: I know that you are proud of your work, and this is no bad thing. But it really doesn't follow that others will feel the same way. To that end, when trying to illustrate a point, and your boney finger moves the mouse so that it hovers over that Barely Legal cover JPEG that you never fail to post, please....pretty fucking please...with a cherry on top....DON'T click!

DamianJ

*shudder* doesn't mean I have difficulty comprehending the idea of a very old man flirting with a model, it means I find the idea repulsive. You find so much so hard to understand.

I've been to hundreds of porn shoots. I've never seen someone 'flirt' with the models. Those poor girls must have been terrified. Desperate for money and naked and then some 70 year old bloke making sexual advances. Horrifying. Probably scarred them for life.

Paul Markham

I know those days are past and realise it. Only too glad you and I got to work when our work was appreciated properly.

But I make the point that so many sites are competing on the same level today because of their attitude towards content. Even Manwin who can afford to pay more, choose to sink down to a level of $700. Which let's others in.

Sinking down to the level of $300 a scene outright, is going to make it so easy for any other person to open a site and compete with them in getting traffic, which it's obvious many can do.

This business model has led to 1,000s of sites spending more and more to get traffic and it being harder and harder to make money out of.

That's all about today, 3/4/2011. Not about the past.
My style of writing I apologise for. Maybe it's something I can't change. As the advice is free, I don't feel the need to change.

Whose going to pay me to write nice sweet kissy advice?

We put more than enough away. And sold a few sign ups and sets today.

I'm looking forward to the shoot, looking forward to going to the UK and have to rush off because I'm meeting my daughter from school.

Looking forward all the time. Especially about this business. But that depresses me.

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ottopottomouse

Calm down a bit - he hasn't been 900 years old forever.

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DamianJ

True enough. But the thought of a poor scared little 18 year old having to put up with sexual advances from a shooter is making a little bit of sick come up.

Maybe I am naive, maybe I just have had the pleasure to work with decent photographers, but I don't think it's A Good Idea to hit on people you employ.