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She is ugly, bad luck.
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Nathan and Damian are very quiet. Have they been silenced ?
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08-29-2011, 03:20 PM
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Still waiting for the BTS movie and Nathan's review.....
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08-29-2011, 03:24 PM
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GREAT timing Cherry! exporting part of the BTS movie right this very minute!!! sorry it took so absurdly long...
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I love this thread!!!
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Watching it now.
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What did Nathan think of his $3000 video shot ?
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The lack of flaming of the video, by the flamers here, shows what other think. The most telling was the cost of the sofa and the lack of a rose in the back ground.
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08-31-2011, 03:07 AM
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I think you are right.
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It didn't turn out exactly as I wanted, the video Reggie shot of me will show why. But it was a pretty good job.
The question is can other shooters get models to put out this kind of performance and can they capture it as well? What I had hoped is the video would provoke more discussion than the 2 trolls complaining about the sofa and lack of a rose in the back ground. If that's more important to them than the actual content then it's obvious why online porn's turnover is down. |
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Sorry about extreme delay
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Haters & Trolls SUCK!
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Hey Reggie, I quite enjoyed those videos....thanks for posting them up. Nice little documentary there
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Reggie great job. I apologize for doubting you and posting that you were full of shit when it came to you shooting this documentary.
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Haters & Trolls SUCK!
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Producing a low quality repeat buy product product, spending more money on giving it away than anything else. Is a recipe for a disaster. Be it in porn or baked beans. And now that's clearly true. In any business if 1,000s consume a product you have 1,000s of potential customers. Giving it away for free to those 1,000s to sell to 1 is a fail. Fooling yourself it works, shows a lack of understanding of business, marketing and selling. It's taking the easy road to make $1,000 and ignoring the harder way to make $1,000,000. What ever you did make was a fraction of what you could of made if you could of taken the harder route. That I suppose is ultimately why so many don't like what I post. They know if content was prized higher, members thought of more highly than surfers, then they would not of been able to work online. The low entry bar suited them. |
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there is more spent on porn now than there ever was at anytime in the last decade. there are just way more players taking a piece. its called the long tail. if you add up the annual sales of all the PornCMS customer websites, it is 10x+ higher than we were making in 2002-2004 at Hegre. there's just hundreds of sites sharing the same cake. you will never get the lion's share of the market anymore (although Manwin is trying), but you can do a hell of a lot better opening a good site than you can working a 9-5 or opening a local bakery. its all about perspective, Markham, and i think you lost your perspective, along with your motivation to be a player in this business. 
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why was the naked model censored out but Paul Markham topless was was shown?
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09-08-2011, 02:59 AM
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I'm glad Paul overcame his health problems
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Paul, novelties are not porn
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In the old days all we did was buy equipment, find model, book her, shoot her and sell it. No editing or uploading involved. The biggest difference is digital. If they can't set the exposure right for stills, they're morons. Video was very much point and shoot. Stills film cameras were not expensive, film was a bit but $10 to $15 a roll isn't breaking the bank. Video cameras if you weren't stepping up to Beta weren't expensive. So where is it easier today? You mean it was harder to sell it back in the old days. Quote:
Are you saying the $200 million Ann Summers made was mainly sex toys and lingerie? Remember when Times Square had porn shops on, run by the Mafia. Can you imagine what those shops made? That's the problem with online porn, it has a very narrow perspective. Other than the ability for small micro niches to have a better outlet for their porn, online porn is just a delivery platform for porn. It has rarely really done anything ground breaking. Paysite = Videos like DVD. Cams = Pone sex and chatting with girls. Yes now you can see the girl. Dating = Lonely hearts club. Just adaptations of offline. The problem is this obsession with traffic, the belief porn is hard to sell and the porn level of many people in online porn. Traffic to porn is about the easiest thing to get. Selling it isn't that hard, when you have a method of delivery that goes world wide and into places where hardcore porn is banned, selling it is easy. People not understanding this is a shame and led us to where we are today. We always thought porn was hard to sell, maybe because those online were often never buyers? Heard the phrase so many time in the early days of "Why do they buy porn when there's so much for free?" So we decided to go from a few million random images for free to God knows how much free porn is out there today.  We never grew the product as much as it was possible to do with an online distribution. We kept the level of the product to it's lowest possible price and concentrated on throwing expensive traffic at it. By giving it away. We taught customers not to buy. Now the amount of traffic required to get a single sign up is a damning indictment on online porn. |
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The Behind the Scenes film is better than the film its covering.
It has shots, structure, editing....could be shorter for me..... Brno is shown to be a nice place to live and one would think a good place to forget the annoyances of work and enjoy family and pets. |
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that's all their onine store carries, i dont see why the offline to be any exception
http://www.annsummers.com/webapp/wcs..._10001_Y_10230 no more than 42 dvd titles. Novelty and more over lingerie sector doesnt like to be associated with porn and sex toy boutiques like them they keep a distance. |
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I have the reason. Those are 18 Titles. It's illegal in the UK to sell 18R via mail order. 18R is the hardcore porn titles.  Had me confused there. |
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i don't compare online porn to other markets (magazines, toys, sex shops), and i dont compare today's online market to the online market we saw 5-10 years ago. i get up every morning, find out where the opportunities are, and i make some money. if there's a new niche getting everybody excited, i check it out, even if its a dead niche tomorrow. today is what matters. there are still thousand of stock traders making money every day, even tho we are in a deep recession and many went broke. so is the financial industry dead? you are macro analyzing the online market and you are failing. your failure is producing negativity, which is counter-productive to our business and incredibly annoying. there are a lot of people in this business making a living with online porn. just because you are not does not mean the online market is dead.
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So lets examine the truth. And think about it. I'm a shooter. In 1999 I was faced with a decision about going online. Whether to expand the number of brokers, open my own content store or open a paysite. I spoke to many brokers at the Internext show in Vegas. Most came over as people not to be trusted or people who didn't have a clue what would sell or didn't have the money to pay me $300 a set for the license to sell online to other companies. They spoke about how much more I would make if I allowed them to sell exclusive for them. When talking to a man who offers you a $1,000 on a promise, for something you will sell for $300, you get suspicious. So came home, got a programmer and opened our own store. We were frankly amazed at the sales. If you were around then you will remember the saying "Non exclusive is saturated." To saturate a set in a members area, I need to sell it many times. It's main stream Teens niche. 20 sales would never saturate a set. Then there was often a video on top of the set. After a set had stopped selling, around 2 years we would ship it to Bargain Basement for $5 to $10. Can you imagine how many times people will buy sets at this price? Selling it 100 times isn't unusual. Eva and I could never understand why people with content stores would shoot custom for people paying $300 for a set and video. All this after the server and programming was paid was profit. The sets were already in profit because of sales offline. Go figure what 2000 sets and 500 videos have made over the years. Online and offline. During my years online I met countless site owners big and small. The picture many get is these guys are making millions. The picture I got was different. When it came to buying content these guys were always pleading poverty. When it came time to open a site we used the content we had made money off many times on the paysite, just another level of making money from the same content. If you remember the flame Squealer attempted to inflict on me here's some point. We had a studio, studio staff, office and office staff including programmers. Plus Eva was in the office, while our daughter was at home cared for by a nanny. Does that sound like someone who is broke? Yes we had a Ford station wagon. Yes we have only a 3 bedroom house. But we own everything. Just not big flash spenders, we put money into the bank or invest it. So did online porn fulfill it's true potential? Read on. |
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So did online porn fulfill it's true potential?
Never before the Internet was there the opportunity to deliver porn so easily. It went direct into the consumers home, via his computer. There was an obvious opening for the producer to go direct to the consumer in a very big way. The cost of delivery was low enough that micro niche sites could make money. The speed of adapting to consumers needs was nearly instant. The possibility of bring porn from your home to the home of the consumer in an instant. For some unknown reason, the pioneers of paysites decided porn was hard to sell and set about getting traffic by giving it away and spending a fortune doing so. Today millions get off for free, well actually it's very expensive. It's just free for those getting satisfied and never buying porn. They made a business where it took 1,000 consumers to get 1 sale. Some made some money, a very few made a lot of money. None made the money the porn moguls of old made. And none made a fraction of what could of been made if they had thought differently. You sell to little Ma & Pa operations. You promotional marketing says so. What ever you do make and the porn sites in your operation do make. The fact is still that millions today get off to free online porn who should be paying for it. And you don't need to macro analyze to know that. So no. Online porn never fulfilled it's true potential. Which is a shame really. We did nicely and now can sit back and spam out the whole store for a few $1,000 a time. Not to bad for a retired guy. |
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So did online porn fulfill it's true potential?
Never before the Internet was there the opportunity to deliver porn so easily. It went direct into the consumers home, via his computer. There was an obvious opening for the producer to go direct to the consumer in a very big way. The cost of delivery was low enough that micro niche sites could make money. The speed of adapting to consumers needs was nearly instant. The possibility of bring porn from your home to the home of the consumer in an instant. For some unknown reason, the pioneers of paysites decided porn was hard to sell and set about getting traffic by giving it away and spending a fortune doing so. Today millions get off for free, well actually it's very expensive. It's just free for those getting satisfied and never buying porn. They made a business where it took 1,000 consumers to get 1 sale. Some made some money, a very few made a lot of money. None made the money the porn moguls of old made. And none made a fraction of what could of been made if they had thought differently. What ever you do make and the porn sites in your operation do make. The fact is still that millions today get off to free online porn who should be paying for it. And you don't need to macro analyze to know that. So no. Online porn never fulfilled it's true potential. Which is a shame really. We did nicely and now can sit back and spam out the whole store for a few $1,000 a time. Not to bad for a retired guy. |
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the druglord that could(nt)
i heard a story about an aging druglord that went further and further into debt, putting his life and the life of his family at risk. it wasn't that he didn't understand the drug business. he practically invented the business, over 30 years of hard work and ingenuity. but as time went by, new players came into the business, employing new tricks and new products. he dismissed them as clowns and was sure they would disappear. he stuck to his ganja trade while these other kingpins grew in wealth and power. eventually these other lords invaded his business and territory, putting him at great risk. he tried to explain how he was once great, but they only cared about what he could do for them today. as his business sank into the ground, so did his wealth, until he was in terrible debt. he borrowed and borrowed, sure that his genius would save him. he preached to all the young druglords about how great it was in the "good old days", but they just saw a decrepit old man nearing the end. one day the old man's debtors came calling and he had to face reality. the knowledge gained by a lifetime of work wasn't worth the braincells now holding two bullets.  that story is about all i can do for you mr. markham. you are a lost sheep...
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for the porn consumer this is the best time it has ever been.
thousands maybe millions of videos, pictures in every niche available for free, or cheap, in high quality. it is the high point for lovers of porn. you however, are at the lowest, reduced to selling the results of your life work for crap filler for a thousand bucks. Quote:
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Props
Props to Reggie... great documentary piece, I want you to come shoot me now
Brave of Paul to open up as much as he did, I have to say there were bits of it that I found interesting, bits I found that made me laugh... but sorry also some bits that made me cringe... I am glad Paul you got over your illness, and that your wife also recovered from her accident... more power to you. I also echo what many have said that you seem in real life to be totally different from how you come over on here... I guess we can all be a bit misunderstood by what we say in a message on a forum... I know you will probably say that isnt the case... it's just my opinion I guess... Anyways good luck on your ventures... good luck with your continued drive to improve your health... and what ever tomorrow holds well done on what you have achieved... Now Fabian... I seriously am not going to shoot a scene for less than $6000 ! 
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PJ following on from your post about my content and the industry.
You can now see from Reggie's video the condition I'm in. So any idea of me coming back to a physical job is obviously delusional, I know that now. simply not fit enough. I have good days and bad days. The day of the shoot was a normal day for me. Fine if I'm sitting down, yet still tire very quickly if I work. The doctors feel I'm way ahead of schedule, it took Viv Thomas who had the same cancer as me 5 years to fully recover. Yes the video had 3 criticisms. Among all the people who hate and flame me only 3 could find something bad to say. 1 was Cherry, who lives in a different world to me porn wise. The other were 2 shooters. 1 said I should of had a rose in the background, the other criticised the cost of the sofa. Do you think that's a failure? Considering my condition. Manwin's editor chose for what ever reason to edit out the opening of Sandra walking to the shoot and her close at the end which clearly showed how much fun she had. Why I don't know. Any porn editor would of seen what I was doing and kept it in. It adds reality to the scene. Now it's just a girl on a sofa, add that and it has a structure, a porn model going to a shoot doing a job she loves and at the end showing why she loves it. Yes Cherry it was shot to give structure. Reggie who saw the shoot, makes the comment about it being edited out. Why we will never know. During the film I made a claim. I could improve the profits on Mofos. It's not an empty boast, I can do it and can back it up. I could do it for many sites. PJ would you like to earn more from a sign up? By increasing retention you will do that. Once money is spent the only thing that decides if a member stays 1 month or 2 or 6, is the members area. So many sites are just a stack of videos and sets. Little more structure than a tube site. The only difference is the narrow selection and the quality of the videos. Paysites are failing on this level. I've been inside many and see the problem. People who don't really understand members needs, think in a single line and just spend to much time replacing lost members by driving more traffic to get new ones. Someone once said, after discussing improving his members area, that a lot of people on GFY disagree with me. Are they members of paysites or trolls who don't like me attacking their way of making money. By driving traffic at sites that don't get the most out it? Think about. A very old man in poor health was able to produce a scene that got very little flaming. After 3 years+ of shooting nothing, I'm still selling content. something fit and younger men have given up on. That has to be a win for me. |
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i remember you writing that you should do porn site reviews. here you claim to know how to fix every paysite. you write on gfy for hours every day but you aren't proving anything. like the college professor who teaches you how to run a business but could never do it himself. worthless chatter 
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The paysite was based on the content store and magazine content. It was impossible to go back and re-shoot it and we weren't going to start shooting all content just for the site. We did shoot a few scenes for the site and they did very well. Judging me on something we had earnt money on by selling offline, then selling online and then selling in a members site isn't the brightest thing. To of started a paysite the way I would want it would of meant going back to the UK and giving up an extremely lucrative business in Czech. something you wouldn't gamble your families future on, neither would I. However let's look at your marketing advice and how to build a successful site. http://free.porncms.com/Porn_CMS_Gui...el_Profits.pdf Quote:
http://free.porncms.com/Simple_Guide..._Porn_Site.pdf This as far as marketing advice is pretty basic. It's like me saying if you want to shoot porn, get a camera and find a model. Basic and misleading. I could write a far better marketing document than that. It just tells people to go to sites. Maybe if you had watched more than a minute of my scene you would have a better idea on how to advise people, how to make more money. your marketing advice is basically go to sites and post. Post what, create what, what can you do to make it work? traffic is just a very small part of the game. Building tons and tons of traffic to watch boring porn isn't working now. It's 2011. Get with the program. Can I tell you how to advise people better? For sure I can, I've survived 34 years and had to adapt more time than most here. You'll keep flaming rather than sitting back and thinking "What if he's saying something I should think about?" That's the way a real businessman works. I looked long and hard at starting a paysite and came to the conclusion that throwing up another site based on girls who couldn't string together a simple sentence in English would require major traffic work. Because it had little to sell itself on. Moving back to the UK meant going from shooting over 200 sets a year back to shooting 40. Because of the quality and quantity of good girls. That's 160+ sets which sold for $3,000 a time on average. Would you had risked an income of size on a gamble? |
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I think people were too embarrassed to tell you how bad the scene was.
But to be fair most porn is .... bad... poorly shot, ugly girls, crap performances... The work that went into the shooting of documentary was a few times more than the porn shot - after all thats what is was - one shot - of the girl doing all the work. You are ill, so hire a cameraman, and you direct, put your ideas into reality. No, you just took all the money, and blame the lameness on your illness. But the trouble is you have no ideas, no creativity, no understanding of culture, photography, film making ...and all who see, see that . You have the ability to post and post till others lose the will to live. And most of all there is no sex in the clip, no sexual tension, flirting, energy or anything... I like the excuse for not having a paysite in Czech republic, the girls don't speak English, yes , we prefer really ugly English girls as long as they speak good English. All those beautiful Czech girls I can't look, their English is too poor ! You live in Babe central, you are a video genius, you understand marketing, but you couldn't make a paysite that made money.... |
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the PornCMS Guide to Solo Model Marketing is a first step and the people who have followed it have done really well. i can give you at least 1 example off the top of my head: http://www.lelulove.com/ that site does sales all day long and it is based on being social, posting on other sites (including a TORRENT site) and bringing people back to buy her AMATEUR content. i do not flame. i act. i give advice and i help people follow it. you have not tried any of these so-called brilliant ideas of yours. you didn't even try my ideas. you just bashed them. how about you try selling something in this market before acting like you know something about it.
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