20 pages, who would of thought. LOL

And the shoot hasn't been done yet.

My testimonials are dollars in the bank. I've an ego but seriously do you think nice testimonials on your own site, that you could of written yourself, mean much?

Even if your testimonials ARE real, BVF, your members are probably creeps!

Maybe the real downfall to the biz is simply shitty porn. We'll never know.


:1orglaugh That actually made me laugh.

Creeps use the same money everyone else does. And lets get real, just about any guy sitting in front of his computer with his cock in his hand, is a creep to some degree when it comes to sexuality.

Well said. I suppose. Still, there are certainly levels of creepiness. Nothing in life is black and white. Well, I don't think any of BVF's talent is white, but obviously I was speaking more metaphorically :pimp

You're full of shit.....NOBODY in here knows how many dollars either you or I have in the bank because for one, you live in a shit third world european village with a third world european wife and that doesn't cost shit.....And for two, since you talk about that bank account so much, post your statement.

And if you think that I'm going to write those testimonials over the YEARS, just so that I could post the link in your punk ass thread, then you're an even bigger old fool than I thought you were.

dude, i respect you and the way you do your thing but stop talking shit about places you've never been to and people you never met :2 cents:

this "third world" place is much more sophisticated than the slums were you pick up your girls. and it's also not cheaper than the US.

I am with ya bro!

1. Did your buddy say yes to borrowing his camera?
2. Did he recommend a good model?
3. What do you mean, "get [your] ass into gear"?
4. Who is this Buddy? Is it Nathan? Have you'ze two been punking us? spunking us?

which is why I said VILLAGE....I'm pretty sure that the czech republic itself isnt all the same...However, it's cheaper than parts of the US and that's a fact depending on where you live....Now if this dude had a spot in the capital of Czech with a nice view, then I would understand....But hell, I could even move to California and live in a bubbafuck part of the state for cheap while somebody else is living in Beverly Hills....You know it and I know it.

And I've picked up hoes in "slums" a stones throw from the White House...That's where I started and since I have NEVER lived in a slum, calling it such is no skin off my back....

I even lived in Puerto Rico for a year and a half with a three bedroom condo in a gated community with an ocean view....But since it was in a bubbafuck part of PR, it was CHEAP.....That's just the way shit goes in the world.

PAUL Paul Paul

1. Did your buddy say yes to borrowing his camera?
2. Did he recommend a good model?
3. What do you mean, "get [your] ass into gear"?
4. Who is this Buddy? Is it Nathan? Have you'ze two been punking us? spunking us?
5. what do you think about the ************* situation?

I thought you were going to go and document Paul shooting this scene? You leave yet? just checking.:thumbsup

I'm asking all these questions because I want to make a good documentary. I have not left yet.

Am I still documenting you doing the Brazzers shoot-off, or whatever you named it, JustDave?

We will see where things go from here.


As i have learned, you are a shooter for hire too and if i do not personally know you, my sets will be closed to you and your camera.


Just about every shooter and Photog will close their sets to other shooters unless you have a long history of being a stand up guy or a long good standing relationship with them. Its a no win for me. Why? So you can email my clients and tell them that you can do it better? Cheaper? Not happening. Been through that one already.




Nobody likes his video movement style, video lighting scheme, or strobe set ups video taped. Especially from a shooter for hire that they do not know.



Good luck at getting onto peoples sets, when they find out that you are a shooter for hire. And if you do get onto someones set and do not disclose that you are a shooter for hire, you will get yourself into a big mess. Porn Valley is a small place and its easy to have people on your door step with in an hour of someone feeling that you fucked him over.:2 cents:

i really dont care where you live and what you do there - but I live in the same place as Paul and i would appreciate if you would keep your disagreements on a personal level and not insult a place and people who have done you no harm

How about you go shoot some porn and document something for some CUSTOMERS!!!

Get over it....Nobody cares where you live...Just like you don't care where I live....If it was so much more expensive to live and shoot girls there, you wouldn't be there....Period.....Hell, I've been insulted all kinds of ways on this forum and I didn't see you coming to my defense at all...So just because you happen to live where he lives, so what?...I didn't know that until you said it.

I don't give a shit if you say I find girls in a slum, so YOU shouldn't care if I say you're finding hoes in a third world village....Has anybody in these "slums" that I find my hoes at done you any harm?

It's no skin off my back and shouldn't be any skin off of yours....This is a messageboard and there are going to be insults on it.

JustDave, like everyone else you just LOVE to REACT
 

As you have "learned"?
You mean when I tried to start talking about content I "shot for hire" and everyone especially YOU accused me of thread-jacking? Then you accused me of trying to take credit for the miley scene. THAT is ridiculous, where did I ever claim that I had anything to do with the making of that?

It sucks that someone jacked you like that and made you all suspicious-style.
However, I am not that guy. I have been very forthcoming about my role in the industry: I've produced/directed/edited content for awhile now, and I've also shot a documentary on Nick Manning. Here's the link, again. I will end you if you accuse me of thread-jacking, JustDave. Agent 488, accuse away.
http://vimeo.com/3682489

Let's get to know each other, then, JustDave! No one better to do documentaries on the porn industry than a porn industry member!
I will not email your clients or anything ridiculous like that. I am not trying to steal anyone's clients or increase the number of my own. Other than planning this next documentary, I'm working on my own site, imminently-launching, and I would post a sample but you and the haters will accuse me of thread-jacking, of course.
Anyway, Paul has agreed to let me onto his set and I'm excited about going out there for that.
That being said, JustDave, I don't NEED you in my documentary so I certainly won't beg, or even ask you again unless you watch my porn scenes ;-)

What the FUCK are you talking about you weirdo?!? You seem, like, paranoid and shit.

I DISCLOSED that I shoot porn, I DISCLOSED that I've made a documentary about the industry of which I am a part. You have DISCLOSED that you type before reading threads.

Also, you are 100% wrong. For a year we followed Nick onto his porn sets and got to know all the different crews of the companies he shot for and they let us shoot no problem and they were fully aware that I made content myself. These were companies like Penthouse, Hustler, etc.

Paul is allowing me onto his set, and I disclosed to him that I shoot porn. The proof is the review of my porn scene that he wrote and posted in this thread.

What the hell is wrong with you today, JustDave, too many april fools jokes?!? Don't worry about it, partnah, I am a gulla bull myself and fell for a few...

sorry, i dont insult people for no reason

Then your best bet is to stay out of it....No insults were directed towards you. :2 cents:

Its easy to type up a big game from your laptop at home. You my friend has what I like to call an "Alligator mouth, with a Parakeet Ass"


Porn Valley is a very small place dude.


We will see each other soon enough.:thumbsup

I have a desktop. What's the difference?

HUH?
"Alligator mouth, with a Parakeet Ass" - cite specific examples.

OK. I have been here longer than you. So what?

OK. Will we fight physically or mentally?

Where'd you go, JustDave... WHEEEEERRRRREEEEE?

In a way, but I doubt if it would of saved the industry from the decline.

Nearly anyone can write glowing text, get a design, drive traffic, put up a CMS and open a site. It's not rocket science and the explosion of sites online shows how easy it is. Yes it takes some skills but not a great amount. Some money is also required.

As for driving traffic, well that's an easy thing to do. Look at all the affiliates.

Yes to do this really well isn't so tough. But looking around at how quickly these skills were picked up shows it's not rocket science.

There's only really one skill that is hard to learn. Shooting porn. It's not about being able to shoot music video, TV video. It's about being able to know how to deal with models, not just find them. Knowing a niche, knowing how to construct a scene. And more.

Knowing how to shoot really good porn to the level of Rocco, Bil Wright, Jack Harrison, Steve Hicks, Ed Powers in his good times, Steve Perry and more takes ton of skill, a lot of experience and a real feel for porn. None of these guys will work for porns sites, either porn sites can't afford them or won't afford them.

So the flood gates were open. 1,000s of sites with shitty porn all trying to feed from the same trough. Even sites that say they compete with Penthouse and Playboy are a joke. If you want to compete with them you need a shooter who can work for them.

What shitty porn lead to was saturation of the business. Then the most important thing was getting enough traffic to persuade the 1 in 500 that is was worth $30. 1-500 of surfers on a TGP site, not the ones who could be bothered to go to the site.

Some sites did produce great content, Alsscans was one. But the majority don't and the result is pulp porn and nothing that's not on a Tube worth paying for as far a sthe vast majority are concerned.

You're assuming he could afford to fly here. :1orglaugh

He's a guy who has no clue about where I live.

Pictures from my street and village.

One end of the street is the local manor house. Once owned by the landed gentry from the Austrian/Hungarian Empire.

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/home.jpg

Middle of the street.

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/home4.jpg

End of the street is a farm.

http://www.paulmarkham.com/temp/home7.jpg

House prices here have rocketed in the last 8 years. Because it's a sought after area. We could afford to live in Prague over looking Old Town Square or Wenceslas Square, but it doesn't compete with here. Our house overlooks a river, nice and quiet.

BVF says don't insult me while he insults others. There's a word for that starts with H.

I have a buddy here who says he will help me, but might get another one.

All will be revealed when I know more.

Oh is that like when you say in one breath that Manwin is destroying the industry with piracy and then happily take 3 grand from him to pay your cabbage bills?

PS Paul, why not post a pic of your mansion? You post a pic of a nearby mansion and a lovely looking field of cabbages, but nothing of your palace?

Come on, show us what 30 years at the top buys in in a small village outside Brno. I bet it's BALLIN'!

We'll be waiting a fucking long time then.

LOL!!

When BVF made his "comments" post and I replied with my front covers. He revealed how narrow minded and all the others are about the porn production market. It's been an ignorance for many from day 1 and still till today.

My praises are in the 1,000s of sets we sold to magazines. For slightly more than anyone will ever earn shooting custom. I know it's a point I keep making but it's true and ignored like it happened 30 years ago. Our last sale to a magazine was this year.

But to be fair to BVF he's not alone. In 2000 I met the boss of Bang Bus, it was the year they had centre stage at the LV show with their big buss. We sat down and discussed Eva and I working for them exclusively and turning all our production over to them for a teens site. He offered us a paltry sum and when I told him what magazines paid he was astounded.

In 2004 or 5 Lensman said that a shooter was worth $500 a day. And not 5 days a week. I told him we earned more than that 7 days a week. From magazines only.

So to online sales.

Does anyone remember 2001 when we opened the store? Then very very few could afford custom, didn't even have the budget to shoot. Selling a set only 10 times at $35 was a breeze, selling it 20 times wasn't hard. Selling videos was on top of that.

All 100% profit after the programmer and hosting were paid for.

Getting porn shooter as low down on the ladder as Eva and I was beyond most sites.

Today I can retire by choice and say I will only come back for $3,000 a set. Because we earned $3,000 a set.

And those that think the most important part of our business is or ever was www.paulmarkham.com are fools. Who don't even bother to read the obvious.

Maybe they thought we were making as little as Damian does. LOL

It's better than what marketing for porn sites has got you.

Can you explain this or are you drunk when you write it? http://twitter.com/fakepaulmarkham

I must really get up your nose.

What a condescending attitude to have. So for example, you're saying the success of Playboy had nothing to do with their management and marketing departments, but instead, was all due to the quality of porn they shot?

Thank fuck I've never had to work with you before.

PS. If shooting porn is the only hard skill to learn, then you should have no problem doing my job. If you're dedicated and good, you can make $3000 in one week, no problem. Same as Nathan is paying you, but basically no expenses. Give it try!

5½ weeks of nothing actually happening. Be snowing again before anything does too.

I'm sure it is, I just wonder why you don't post a pic of it, to silence everyone who doubts you.

I mean, a cunt can post a pic of a house near them that is nice.

Watch, here is a house I can see from my garden:

http://www.ilovesussex.com/sitebuild...del_Castle.jpg

But the fact I live near it means shit.

So, post away.


Explain what? Is there a particular part of it you don't understand? It appears to be a parody site where someone really funny is mocking you? What else is there to explain?

What are you talking about?

I never said it was hard, I said it was the hardest. As for programming. Loads of them around that can be hired for a job and then hardly needed. And the price is the governed by supply and demand.

Content is a continual requirement. Also governed by supply and demand. Maybe you don't like what I said, but is it true. Are their 1,000s od paysites and 10,000s of affiliates?

As for programmers, well there's a university full of them here and they're all looking for part time work and will all be looking for full time jobs. Jobs that are going to India for $100 a week TYPE wages.

Do you know any shooters in India.

As for Playboy. Heffner would of found it hard 10 years later. His success was in being first and the only one at the time. He learned as he went along, like so many of the "Greats" Like even me.

If I was starting today I would never of got off the ground.

I see you ignored my main point though.

Your rented flat backs onto a railway. Do the trains keep you awake at night or have you got used to them by now?


I think it reveals more about you than a good marketing man should have revealed.

So no picture of your palace then?

You are a liar and a coward.

Who still thinks I live in Brighton. :D

Despite all the clues...


I don't care what you think though, love.

--

You think the fact I used to rent a flat is embarrassing some how.
You think the fact I am a magician is embarrassing some how.

Cool. I think it's hilarious that 1) you think those things are embarrassing and 2) that you have nothing else to dis me over. Same old shit. So tired now! I mean, I moved so long ago and you still think I am there. HEhehe!

Still, I've not got a thread this long, you are doing something right!

Some of the posters here really think you mean the UTTER BILGE you post. *That* is the funny part my friend. You and I both know you are just lying and posting spasticly stupid statements to wind people up. I love it. Everytime one of your shooter colleagues posts pointing out your idiocy, incorrect statements and general rudeness I laugh knowing you are sat in your safehouse pissing yourself that they actually think you are serious!

Well done man!

So you take a picture of the City Hall, some shitty apartment building, and some farmland to show how you're balling out of control? :1orglaugh . Now take a picture of your shack that you live in and show that because to me, it looks pretty much like what I thought, a CHEAP COUNTRY VILLAGE that anybody could afford...

And I never said I don't want to be insulted...Once again, your senile mind can't comprehend anything....I told MaDalton to stay out of it with HIS insults as I wasn't even directing MY insults towards him....I said that because HE said that he doesn't insult people for no reason when he just DID insult me. Either way, I still don't give a damn.

Here are pictures of my condo that I had in Puerto Rico, all paid for by ghetto girls from the "slums"

http://www.mrnogood.com/images/DSCF0902.JPG
http://www.mrnogood.com/images/DSCF0907.JPG
http://www.mrnogood.com/images/DSCF0914.JPG
http://www.mrnogood.com/images/DSCF0903.JPG

And here's my ocean view bitch:....Now TRY and say that I stole those pictures from somewhere...I dare you.

http://www.mrnogood.com/images/DSCF0906.JPG

whatchu talkin 'bout brah? paul got the $!

Well unless there was a clause about it being filmed before Markham's 100th birthday i'm not expecting to see anything happen in a hurry.

No, you said there's only one skill that was hard to learn -- shooting porn.

Same goes for porn producers. Looks like we're in the same boat.

And producers are selling scenes for $10. What's your point?

There's only 1.1 billion people in India. I'm absolutely certain none of them shoot porn.

Well, considering you both come from the same era, Heffner obviously did something better than you. And I highly doubt it was the quality of his porn.

:1orglaugh
Pretty funny. But just to clear it up...a lot of kids on GFY will believe that. :1orglaugh

So to make it clear to them: Hefner was the 1950's Paul kicked ass in the 1980's and 1990's Paul is not "old" by any means. He's too young to be in Aerosmith or Kiss and he's maybe a couple of years older than Tom Cruise.

Just thought I'd say that for a reference point. :)

Hell, I'm going to be 50 years old this year...and I'll outrun, outfight, outdrink, and outfuck every damn one of you! lol

When can we see the script?

Why would anybody show people on a message board the "script" for a porn shoot?
I've never written a "script" down in my life. I think up the scenarios and a couple of pieces of important dialogue that need to be there and that's pretty much it.

There better not be much of a "script" or else there will be a collective groan as millions of men's penis's go flaccid. This is porn, not "Gone With The Wind" heh-heh

And yes, I see that you write erotic stories and are very focused on that whole end of it. And I'm sure you are quite successful with that niche...but what Paul needs is just enough "script" to set the scene up. Then he needs a hot bitch who loves sex and exudes sexuality and to provide the proper environment to let her shine. Other than that, Paul has all the technical skills to film it.

And isn't that what we really want to do?

Capture a sexually charged performance from a woman who personifies sex and pretty much keep out of the way of anything that would distract from that.
Sounds easy. But just like playing the blues, it's easy to copy but difficult to master.

So glad that Robbie's way is the "correct" way

I was surprised when a script was mentioned, I found it difficult to believe any writing was involved.....

Thats why I was interested to see what was worthy of putting on paper...

http://www.cinemaerotique.com/pp/Cindy.gif

Capture a sexually charged performance from a woman who personifies sex and pretty much keep out of the way of anything that would distract from that.
Sounds easy. But just like playing the blues, it's easy to copy but difficult to master

That's what I was thinking too.

Paul? Will you post your script, or will it remain confidential until after the shoot??? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

There are schools, colleges and books that teach people to program. Never seen anything like that to teach anyone to shot porn.

Some of us aren't we were able to make enough to get out.

My point is if you were able to sit at the top table for shooting porn, you would be seeing $10 x 100 as a bonus on top of the $3,000 it had already made.

Never seen one selling to magazines. Maybe a few sell stuff to sites. But not like they sell programming.

Robbie has done a better job than me. Nice fail.

"Well, considering you both come from the same era, Heffner obviously did something better than you. And I highly doubt it was the quality of his porn."

yeah, Hefner got a model named Marilyn Monroe

...oh, by the way...

1k

sorry Paul, had to take the glory on this one