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carzygirls 02-22-2011 05:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 17934344)
LOL I offer a newsletter, with over 20,000 subscribers and growing
20K is a few days worth on heavy volume.... or.... several weeks on say 20K uniques/day :(

woj 02-22-2011 05:50 PM
Why would you bother with consulting? buy shit for 9 months profit, triple the income, get your investment back in 3 months...rinse and repeat...

The Porn Nerd 02-22-2011 05:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by carzygirls (Post 17934359)
20K is a few days worth on heavy volume.... or.... several weeks on say 20K uniques/day :(
Very, very true - but remember, this is a weekly newsletter, so 20k goes out every week. With some email marketing strategies even an email a week is too much. It all depends. I like your advice, please don't get me wrong, and I think it's abso;utely crucial for affiliates especially. But for a one-man operation (more or less) you gotta work things a bit differantly.

Having said that, another network/program owner could probably triple profits implementing some of your ideas. Go figure. LOL! :)

carzygirls 02-22-2011 07:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by woj (Post 17934393)
Why would you bother with consulting? buy shit for 9 months profit, triple the income, get your investment back in 3 months...rinse and repeat...
Problem with 9 months profit is all the hidden traffic sources :(

If sites made the money on autopilot they wouldn't sell it... there is always a catch and always something trying to hide.

jkthedesigner 02-22-2011 09:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by carzygirls (Post 17934545)
Problem with 9 months profit is all the hidden traffic sources :(

If sites made the money on autopilot they wouldn't sell it... there is always a catch and always something trying to hide.
Very true. I'll contact you when my project is finished and you could shed some light on it. We can work out the terms.

plsureking 02-23-2011 04:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 17934344)
Carry on giving mainstream advice any half-wit can suss out for themselves. I'm sure your intentions are good but nowhere have you offered a way to BOOST CONVERSIONS, which is really the entire point.

Carry on.
your ego is way too big to accept help from carzygirls - who obviously knows a thing or two. if u were happy with your revenue level you wouldn't be here and you wouldn't have written so much on this thread. no reason to be a dick when someone is offering FREE help.

Quote:
Originally Posted by mizmiz (Post 17933861)
He ment that when he needed help you didnt help him and just said bullshit stuff...
Now gfy.
must have missed the request for help on post #1 of this thread. was it hidden? i'm not very good at cryptography. all i asked is if he's had any success in the last 12 months. very simple fucking question. its a different game now. the answer to my question would have been useful.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 02-23-2011 04:26 AM
Contact Google they're missing you at the Googleplex...

12clicks 02-23-2011 04:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by woj (Post 17934393)
Why would you bother with consulting? buy shit for 9 months profit, triple the income, get your investment back in 3 months...rinse and repeat...
He doesn't have any money.
He's the troll formerly known as mmcfadden

Emil 02-23-2011 04:55 AM
fart on my sites plz

Nicky 02-23-2011 05:19 AM
50x profit

Nicky 02-23-2011 05:19 AM
50x profit yoo

Far-L 02-23-2011 11:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by carzygirls (Post 17934314)
I don't feel threatened :) I don't see at all why Peabody doesn't collect emails and I can guarentee giving full site access for $1 or $2 or whatever is NOT the way to go for a porn site(s). Nobody is ever satisfied and they WILL most likely cancel unless you pull some shaddy shit or bang them with an unknowing cross sale.

Maybe collecting emails, direct marketing is obvious but then why SO many sites don't do it?

I do offer a FREE 3 day trial with no credit card on a mainstream site and sales immediately, I mean 4 days after implemented have doubled. It's all those little things, I give full access on that site because I need the members to use it and realize they need it. Porn, different, they don't need it. So you have to tease them, but not collecting emails first is just silly.

I did give more "valid" advice then you summed up... just re-read it ;)
Yeah, I saw and paid acknowledgement as you can see. I think you have given a few great tips here that went beyond the obvious and certainly shown enough of your hand to let people know that you do have marketing savvy. And nothing wrong with the sort of macro-level should-be-obvious-to-everyone style advice either. Plenty of people need to hear that too even though most times it will go in one side and out the other.

I just like to see real biz discussions every now and then between hot new model, look who didn't pay, and the industry is dying threads. :winkwink:

carzygirls 02-23-2011 12:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkthedesigner (Post 17934726)
Very true. I'll contact you when my project is finished and you could shed some light on it. We can work out the terms.
Sure I'll take a look. Difficult if this is a new project without a history of sales, but either way, I would be more then happy.

carzygirls 02-23-2011 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17935162)
He doesn't have any money.
He's the troll formerly known as mmcfadden
Nobody cares what you say.

Hidden cross sales and an ex-employee who's sole position was to immediately refund the screaming members who had tons of charges on their cc's was so 2 years ago :thumbsup

carzygirls 02-23-2011 12:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 17935923)
Yeah, I saw and paid acknowledgement as you can see. I think you have given a few great tips here that went beyond the obvious and certainly shown enough of your hand to let people know that you do have marketing savvy. And nothing wrong with the sort of macro-level should-be-obvious-to-everyone style advice either. Plenty of people need to hear that too even though most times it will go in one side and out the other.

I just like to see real biz discussions every now and then between hot new model, look who didn't pay, and the industry is dying threads. :winkwink:
I was typing my first response when you posted your second. Appreciate the comments :)

My old partner used to say it doesn't matter what is changed... the site will make X amount and that is it. He always thought, and still does by his current gfy posts, that it is about the quality of the site that matters. Now that is true for rebills, but if you don't get the initial sale, where are you at?

He also can't understand how the site was making 100K/yr and now fully in his control only 50K :( oh well... to each his own.

ez12 02-23-2011 01:08 PM
http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comi...s/perfect2.png

plsureking 02-24-2011 02:46 AM
hey i think this is related to this thread

HOW TO: Change Your Business Model From Paid to Freemium
http://mashable.com/2011/02/23/how-to-go-freemium/

12clicks 02-24-2011 07:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by carzygirls (Post 17936058)
Nobody cares what you say.

Hidden cross sales and an ex-employee who's sole position was to immediately refund the screaming members who had tons of charges on their cc's was so 2 years ago :thumbsup
welcome back from the day job. :1orglaugh
you'd think someone with your scary knowledge would be working full time in this business.

I'll look for your reply after 5:00pm local time.:1orglaugh

12clicks 02-24-2011 07:52 AM
oh, and be very careful about lying about my business or you'll be picking out a new username again, mmcfadden

hahaha

carzygirls 02-24-2011 10:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by plsureking (Post 17937448)
hey i think this is related to this thread

HOW TO: Change Your Business Model From Paid to Freemium
http://mashable.com/2011/02/23/how-to-go-freemium/
"Differentiating Your Free Offering From a Paid Offering

This is probably the hardest part, and probably one that will take a number of iterations to get right. You might always be tweaking the location of the upsell points that entice a free user to pay for your premium offering. Start with putting these upsell points in places where there is some value for the free user to need more and it?s evident there will be an increase of value if they turn into a paid user"

Constantly tweaking is 100% right on the money. It will always evolve and it can be as simple as pre-checking the right box on the upsell, cutting the free video at the right time, a popup to premium implemented at the right time, etc...

To answer your question, the site from $1500 to $4500 is from changes made from October '10 to date.

Puremeds-J 02-24-2011 10:11 AM
I'll pay you 3x's minimum wage!

plsureking 02-24-2011 12:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by carzygirls (Post 17938086)
"Differentiating Your Free Offering From a Paid Offering

This is probably the hardest part, and probably one that will take a number of iterations to get right. You might always be tweaking the location of the upsell points that entice a free user to pay for your premium offering. Start with putting these upsell points in places where there is some value for the free user to need more and it?s evident there will be an increase of value if they turn into a paid user"

Constantly tweaking is 100% right on the money. It will always evolve and it can be as simple as pre-checking the right box on the upsell, cutting the free video at the right time, a popup to premium implemented at the right time, etc...

To answer your question, the site from $1500 to $4500 is from changes made from October '10 to date.
ah good work then man.

ya i did about the same for 1 site during 2010 and then for 2 sites between last summer and now. the money is out there. of course i haven't integrated this free join thing. its an interesting concept for sure.

porn webmasters - and surfers - are pretty basic. you can't make things too difficult, although setting this in motion could be as easy as making photo sets free for registered members and making videos pay-per-view or require a vip upgrade. i'll have to think about it and decide if its a worthwhile feature to add to PornCMS. i have another development cycle starting in March :)

dallasnovelty 02-24-2011 12:33 PM
what happens if we rub your nose? What kind of insight can we expect??

dan@noof 02-24-2011 02:51 PM
Just by reading this thread my sales increased. Nice!


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plsureking 02-24-2011 02:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dan@noof (Post 17938756)
Just by reading this thread my sales increased. Nice!


.
actually i kinda believe it. one of the very few resourceful threads on gfy

{Psycho} 02-24-2011 02:57 PM
Hey mate can u give me some tips

Nowadays its even hard for me to pay my server bills every month

Could u please help me somehow :)

CyberHustler 02-24-2011 03:12 PM
Touch my dick...

carzygirls 02-26-2011 08:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by {Psycho} (Post 17938768)
Hey mate can u give me some tips

Nowadays its even hard for me to pay my server bills every month

Could u please help me somehow :)
How can I help you? What is the site(s)?

This one we can talk about private... mjmj00 at the a o l

HBKKH 02-26-2011 09:32 PM
you're the man cool guy

carzygirls 02-26-2011 10:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HBKKH (Post 17943117)
you're the man cool guy
I'd try to help you too if you owned anything as well :thumbsup

Jakez 02-27-2011 12:43 AM
Interesting, lately I have discovered that the 2010+ way to survive is tracking everything, campaigns, randomly trying anything and everything, staring at statistics for days on end, etc etc etc, there's a lot of little shit to pay attention to and it all pays off as everything I am doing is doubling every month or 2 months. Of the 10+ years I have been making an income online I can honestly say these are the most fun and interesting times.

Jack Sparrow 02-27-2011 03:11 AM
Carzy, id be interested in talking to you in private.

carzygirls 02-28-2011 11:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow (Post 17943305)
Carzy, id be interested in talking to you in private.
Hit you up on ICQ and I do see that you use whitelabel for cams.

Their's something I could use that you have :thumbsup

papill0n 02-28-2011 11:26 PM
mike you turn teh profits!!!!

ShellyCrash 03-01-2011 02:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 17937819)
oh, and be very careful about lying about my business or you'll be picking out a new username again, mmcfadden
Not sure this is mmcfadden, but I always liked mmcfadden :2 cents:

Young 03-01-2011 04:17 PM
So is this all it takes to become a ICQ consultant on GFY?

1. Create Thread
2. Make outlandish unsubstantiated claims regarding doubling and tripling profits
3. Give out generic About.com quality advice
4. ICQ
5. ????????
6. Profit?

mizmiz 03-01-2011 04:55 PM
Whats software are you using after you gather all this email address?
Any help would be appriciated man
Thanks
:)

carzygirls 03-01-2011 06:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ShellyCrash (Post 17948597)
Not sure this is mmcfadden, but I always liked mmcfadden :2 cents:
:)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Young (Post 17948877)
So is this all it takes to become a ICQ consultant on GFY?

1. Create Thread
2. Make outlandish unsubstantiated claims regarding doubling and tripling profits
3. Give out generic About.com quality advice
4. ICQ
5. ????????
6. Profit?
Not offering ICQ consulting ;)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mizmiz (Post 17948960)
Whats software are you using after you gather all this email address?
Any help would be appriciated man
Thanks
:)
I've used several methods for sending emails...

1) Smaller batches of emails I can send from my own IP and use a program plugin for excel. It's called XL email manager for outlook.

2) An automated email file installed on server to send to free members after a certain number of days using a cron.

3) I've used database software like amember which had it customized so I could select exactly the group of members I wanted to send to... ie paid and now expired, free, current members etc.

I'm still on the search to find the best way not to get flagged for spam, whether it is spam or not, whenever you send many emails it always triggers a flag. I've asked this question numerous times and still have yet to find a great solution.

mizmiz 03-02-2011 03:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by carzygirls (Post 17949104)
:)



Not offering ICQ consulting ;)



I've used several methods for sending emails...

1) Smaller batches of emails I can send from my own IP and use a program plugin for excel. It's called XL email manager for outlook.

2) An automated email file installed on server to send to free members after a certain number of days using a cron.

3) I've used database software like amember which had it customized so I could select exactly the group of members I wanted to send to... ie paid and now expired, free, current members etc.

I'm still on the search to find the best way not to get flagged for spam, whether it is spam or not, whenever you send many emails it always triggers a flag. I've asked this question numerous times and still have yet to find a great solution.
Your the man, no one on gfy is giving out advices. :)

CaptainHowdy 03-02-2011 05:59 AM
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