So sad,,,,out of the many people that lost money, Only one person had the balls to do something
No kidding... so many armchair critics on GFY when epass imploded.... and yet, like you said, only one person has bothered to do anything about it. I got my funds out of my Virtual Visa for the December 31st deadline, so no problems for me, but I remember seeing dozens of people bitching about losing millions.
Unless this goes on the front page of BBC or CNN it's worthless.
If your name is all over the internet and associated with scams and angry people it makes it harder to do business in the future whether in adult or mainstream. It's only worthless now because most of the people scammed are doing jack shit. If you won't even take three minutes to post an anonymous complaint or take 30 minutes to file a complaint with the FTC if you're American then I'm not sure you deserve your money back because people like that only make it easy for guys like Mallick to continue screwing others.
Stand up for yourself or sit the fuck down and take it up the ass basically.
You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.
If your name is all over the internet and associated with scams and angry people it makes it harder to do business in the future whether in adult or mainstream. It's only worthless now because most of the people scammed are doing jack shit. If you won't even take three minutes to post an anonymous complaint or take 30 minutes to file a complaint with the FTC if you're American then I'm not sure you deserve your money back because people like that only make it easy for guys like Mallick to continue screwing others.
Stand up for yourself or sit the fuck down and take it up the ass basically.
If your name is all over the internet and associated with scams and angry people it makes it harder to do business in the future whether in adult or mainstream. It's only worthless now because most of the people scammed are doing jack shit. If you won't even take three minutes to post an anonymous complaint or take 30 minutes to file a complaint with the FTC if you're American then I'm not sure you deserve your money back because people like that only make it easy for guys like Mallick to continue screwing others.
Stand up for yourself or sit the fuck down and take it up the ass basically.
Problem is, anyone can put anybody on ripoffreport.
Every processor that has been around for a while, including us is on there. there is no remedy.
Problem is, anyone can put anybody on ripoffreport.
Every processor that has been around for a while, including us is on there. there is no remedy.
Actually you can pay the site owner. It was $25000 for companies and $1000 for individuals. With all the appropriated epass funds he should have no problem taking it down if he cared to.
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Problem is, anyone can put anybody on ripoffreport.
Every processor that has been around for a while, including us is on there. there is no remedy.
I don't think they are angels. I'm very skeptical of their corporate advocacy program. But they are one of the biggest ones and what you are implying is one of their biggest strengths. They don't take a lot of reports down even if someone threatens to sue. That is big because most sites cave in to every legal threat. Your best recourse is addressing the complaint and acting professional. I've noted a lot of processors are on there myself. Some are bullshit complaints from people complaining about legitimate rebills but others are as a result of people banging cards or the processors allowing sites to do hidden cross sales and other crap like that. But so many here call that good business. Well you're going to have to take the good with the bad then. If a company encourages that crap then they are going to lose customers in the long term. Many webmasters have been saying it for years. How many customers run a Google check on the people billing them before handing over their card? How many check ripoffreport first? It's not 0%. Not in 2011.
If I were running a clean site I would look for a processor with a cleaner reputation than some of the others. If I were a processor I'd consider trying to clean up my policies if I had a bad reputation and publish that fact. It sucks for me as I know I lose sales but I think it's as it should be. Part of business is protecting your brand and your reputation. Not that any of this has much to do with Mallick.
Last edited by signupdamnit; 02-21-2011, 05:09 PM.
You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.
Actually you can pay the site owner. It was $25000 for companies and $1000 for individuals. With all the appropriated epass funds he should have no problem taking it down if he cared to.
I heard about that. I think they still leave up the report but they prepend a lot of spin before the negative reports. I believe they did this for Cash4Gold as well as some MLM type scam. However I still see all thee negative stuff. It's still there AFAIK. Regardless I think it's an excellent tool against scammers. Most sites takedown stuff upon receipt of a letter with lawyer's letterhead. They don't seem to do that. I'm not aware of any company getting a regular complaint removed. That is why when I get scammed by anyone they are the first ones I go to after making sure it's no misunderstanding and giving some time for a remedy.
Last edited by signupdamnit; 02-21-2011, 05:12 PM.
You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.
If your name is all over the internet and associated with scams and angry people it makes it harder to do business in the future whether in adult or mainstream. It's only worthless now because most of the people scammed are doing jack shit. If you won't even take three minutes to post an anonymous complaint or take 30 minutes to file a complaint with the FTC if you're American then I'm not sure you deserve your money back because people like that only make it easy for guys like Mallick to continue screwing others.
Stand up for yourself or sit the fuck down and take it up the ass basically.
I heard about that. I think they still leave up the report but they prepend a lot of spin before the negative reports. I believe they did this for Cash4Gold as well as some MLM type scam. However I still see all thee negative stuff. It's still there AFAIK. Regardless I think it's an excellent tool against scammers. Most sites takedown stuff upon receipt of a letter with lawyer's letterhead. They don't seem to do that. I'm not aware of any company getting a regular complaint removed. That is why when I get scammed by anyone they are the first ones I go to after making sure it's no misunderstanding and giving some time for a remedy.
Maybe 5 or 6 years ago a company I worked for was actually contacted by the site owner and solicited for $25k to make it disappear, but I can't say for certain what that entailed. They have great search engine placement and have additional duplicate content sites that don't seem to get penalized such as pissedconsumer.com and badbusinessbureau.com
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so the fuck what? Anybody who is doing any type of volume on the internet will inevitably end up on ripoffreport and the bbb. It is impossible to have 10,000's of customers and all of them be happy.
Actually you can pay the site owner. It was $25000 for companies and $1000 for individuals. With all the appropriated epass funds he should have no problem taking it down if he cared to.
They don't remove anything. Had a problem with a non paying client and put them on rip off report recently, which led the client to pay up and now they are going apeshit because rip off won't remove it at all.
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Actually you can pay the site owner. It was $25000 for companies and $1000 for individuals. With all the appropriated epass funds he should have no problem taking it down if he cared to.
Seriously? That should be illegal. Seems like extortion.
I don't think they are angels. I'm very skeptical of their corporate advocacy program. But they are one of the biggest ones and what you are implying is one of their biggest strengths. They don't take a lot of reports down even if someone threatens to sue. That is big because most sites cave in to every legal threat. Your best recourse is addressing the complaint and acting professional. I've noted a lot of processors are on there myself. Some are bullshit complaints from people complaining about legitimate rebills but others are as a result of people banging cards or the processors allowing sites to do hidden cross sales and other crap like that. But so many here call that good business. Well you're going to have to take the good with the bad then. If a company encourages that crap then they are going to lose customers in the long term. Many webmasters have been saying it for years. How many customers run a Google check on the people billing them before handing over their card? How many check ripoffreport first? It's not 0%. Not in 2011.
If I were running a clean site I would look for a processor with a cleaner reputation than some of the others. If I were a processor I'd consider trying to clean up my policies if I had a bad reputation and publish that fact. It sucks for me as I know I lose sales but I think it's as it should be. Part of business is protecting your brand and your reputation. Not that any of this has much to do with Mallick.
I agree. We just accepted it and went on about our business.
I'm not aware of it having any impact at a consumer level, although I have seen it brought up at corporate / banking levels, which simply required an explanation.
Maybe 5 or 6 years ago a company I worked for was actually contacted by the site owner and solicited for $25k to make it disappear, but I can't say for certain what that entailed. They have great search engine placement and have additional duplicate content sites that don't seem to get penalized such as pissedconsumer.com and badbusinessbureau.com
I believe you. In my opinion the owner doesn't have the best reputation in the world but overall I'd say that it's very rare to see a report removed. The wikipedia page for ripoffreport reveals all sorts of lawsuits over the matter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripoff_Report and I notice apparently they have some new program where they will submit a report for arbitration and then redact any text found to be false. It looks like it is around $2000 a report.
I myself use the site a lot. I go to it once a week and read the first page of "Latest Reports" just to keep up with the scams. Before doing business with any company I check there first. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
I'm not aware of it having any impact at a consumer level, although I have seen it brought up at corporate / banking levels, which simply required an explanation.
That would be an uncomfortable situation. I'm sure it does have some impact on many companies. It has over a million unique visitors a day and the results tend to rank well. It's probably bullshit but I've seen people claim hits to their business in excess of 40% as a result of being listed. It's going to vary depending on how the result ranks and how bad the report is. As someone who has read a lot of reports I can say that if one makes a rebuttal with the proper tone and professionalism you can make it so most people will dismiss the report. But many people do not know how to do that and get too defensive so they come off as assholes and only make it worse. Not having a rebuttal often tends to make me consider that the company is afraid and that the report is true. Unless the report reads like the person complaining is unreasonable.
Last edited by signupdamnit; 02-22-2011, 05:00 AM.
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