hey try this http://www.sponsorsthatdontshave.com :Graucho

Look, its an industry wide practice so just learn to work your numbers around it.

Some of the biggest sponsors that shave generate nice signup revenues regardless so does it really matter? Its not malicious. They just do it to survive the insane competition between sponsors.

Sly RJ... what sites do you run? I'm always looking for new sponsors.

Catalina ; )
ICQ 86215052

Send the traffic to yourself, fuck all these shaving punks.

Oh and btw, we don't shave, we pay per sign up going straight thru ccbill stats.

www.hometowncash.com

Catalina ; )

I added you to my ICQ. Looking forward to talking with you. :)

The Internet is young, alot of online companies use fraud as a part of their buisness model. Over the course of time fraud based models along with many other things will change.

shaveless.com :)

A good friend of mine is my sponser,and he never shaved any of my signups,he doesnt need to he's loaded..anyways,if you'd like more information please hit me up on ICQ,177821488

Check out AB Cashcow

http://adultbrowser.com/webmasters

Good stuff that converts

Hey Sly_RJ I am adding you to my ICQ. I would like to see the program your running.

Thanks everyone for your responses. I am sending some traffic to a few different sponsers now. Wait and see what happens!

Lorna

Heh heh, I would like to see the other guy who works with him on that program. He's a cool guy, I'm sure he will be posting about it shortly.:winkwink:

Not to spam, but try sending your traffic to something besides paysites and see if it does any better. PPS have to shave, a member just isn't worth $35. Try out a casino, you won't regret it.

On an unrelated not Refer Back will pay you an insane 35% comission on every gambler you send for life. Just as a refferance, when I do a CPA deal it's usually about $175 per lead.

I wonder how many people actually clicked the link??!!

someone should buy that domain lol

Yeh, I don't think we'll be seeing him post tonight. :winkwink:

Wanna know the funny thing? I've signed more webmasters from GFY ever since the "incident" than I did before.

Can't hold a brotha down. :thumbsup

A) Don't start your own sites, there's too many goddamn affiliate programs out there already

B) If you're reading a sponsors stats, you're already fucked. Write your own tools to grab their dollar amounts, or use something like RevStats.com (right, Hank?). Call this value A.

C) Track your own outbound clicks. Call this value B.

D) Take B and divide by A. The resulting value is your average
income per click. This number is relative, but very useful for comparison. Do this math for every sponsor, then send your
traffic to the ones that do the best for you.

Viola, you now know your average profit potential per click, and so you can go shopping for PPC SE's to buy traffic at for less.
Yes, this oversimplifies what is really a whole shitload of code, but it's the right way to do it. Look for sponsors to start providing stats information in XML, so other programs can retrieve the data consistently.

Everyone is quick to accuse any program that uses their own affiliate software. The problem with that is how do you convert all that denied traffic from processor #1? You have to send it to processor #2. When you do that, how do you give the affiliate (you) a single number for sales? You have to have your own software to retrieve these numbers, add them up, etc.

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Ask me about affiliate software. I've been coding it since 1997.

ICQ 1240050

like I said before send your traffic to someone else then try us out. if we don't make you more I will send all your traffic back.

PPS don't have to shave if they know what they are doing.
we have paid trials, free trials and Porn 4 a buck all PPS that kick ass

If a PPS is tightly run and manages its bottomline well, there' s no need to shave.

I've raised an eyebrow or two with ARS on some funny stat reporting, but for the most part I'm happy and continue to use them.

third party processors should be safe. I make most money through ccbill affiliate programs.