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|  02-17-2011, 09:51 AM | #1 | 
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				Stop blaming it on the tubes..
			 And blame it on yourself! With the following image I'm doing 1:716 with a 2% CTR, AND the videos in the image are available for free on the tube site the image is on, AND the sales are from black people (in case you're the type that wants to say black people don't/can't buy porn). Why would they buy a membership when the videos are available for free on the site they're on?  | 
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|  02-17-2011, 09:53 AM | #2 | 
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				 | they are stupid? | 
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|  02-17-2011, 09:53 AM | #3 | 
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				 | How do you know its black people buying? 
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|  02-17-2011, 09:54 AM | #4 | 
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|  02-17-2011, 09:55 AM | #5 | 
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				 | throw up a popeyes banner beside that. | 
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|  02-17-2011, 09:55 AM | #6 | 
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				 | Yeah, and while you're at it, please stop blaming car theft on criminals. If you don't want your vehicle stolen, then you shouldn't own a car!  | 
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|  02-17-2011, 09:56 AM | #7 | 
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				 | There's a chatbox on the site and trust me, it's 99% black people. But hey it could be the other 1% actually buying so you got me on that one. Blaming the tubes is like blaming poor car sales on the car thieves, no? Sounds like a better analogy to me at least.. | 
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|  02-17-2011, 09:57 AM | #8 | 
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|  02-17-2011, 09:57 AM | #9 | 
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				 | you let them know a honkey is running the site? | 
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|  02-17-2011, 09:58 AM | #10 | 
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				 | The two Euro's asked how they know if it's American Blacks buying or not.... hehe, I love you guys, you make the world a good place to live, you're so innocent in thought. American Blacks... my friends, you only need to read the support emails to know. 
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|  02-17-2011, 09:59 AM | #11 | 
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|  02-17-2011, 10:05 AM | #12 | 
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				 | Legit Tubes are not the problem, illegal tubes (along with torrents etc) are the problem. Not surprised black people are buying memberships, you can at least make the fair assessment that they are joining based upon your observations. Might not be 100% accurate but what the heck... 
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|  02-17-2011, 10:05 AM | #13 | |
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|  02-17-2011, 10:09 AM | #14 | |
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 Actually, one of the comments the other day in the sites chatbox said something like "dont fuck with them torrents man theres too much monitoring and theyre suing people now". I thought it was interesting. | |
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|  02-17-2011, 10:09 AM | #15 | 
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				 | How do you know you wouldn't of been converting a lot better before Tubes? | 
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|  02-17-2011, 10:11 AM | #16 | 
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				 | Yeah I'm sure it would convert better. But people act like it's impossible to make a sale these days and just give up and blame it on something. | 
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|  02-17-2011, 10:12 AM | #17 | |
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|  02-17-2011, 10:14 AM | #18 | 
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				 | oh thats a sneaky one right there...   
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|  02-17-2011, 10:16 AM | #19 | |
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|  02-17-2011, 10:17 AM | #20 | 
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				 | Can we do that?? Sounds like a good idea and maybe give them some sort of coupons after 90 days rebills. 
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|  02-17-2011, 10:26 AM | #21 | 
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				 | I'm still blaming TGP's!!! so there. lol | 
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|  02-17-2011, 10:32 AM | #22 | |
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 - Not tried marketing on tubes - Don't have a competitive product that appeals to today's consumers - Simply have not developed proper marketing strategies to sell their good product I would argue that it is much easier to make joins on tubes these days than it is to make joins on MGPS / TGPS. That's what our enormous data suggests. if anyone is looking for a debate on internet marketing , lets do it. This is not about legal / illegal tubes. This is what it is. Its about traffic and ways to monetize that traffic source. Sales ! | |
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|  02-17-2011, 10:32 AM | #23 | 
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				 | Thats fucking awesome!! This warrants a thread 
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|  02-17-2011, 10:33 AM | #24 | 
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|  02-17-2011, 10:36 AM | #25 | 
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				 | i do less than 1:100 on some programs. doesn't mean tubes aren't fucking up the industry. 
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|  02-17-2011, 10:38 AM | #26 | |
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|  02-17-2011, 10:41 AM | #27 | 
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				 | And yes FUCK TUBES and anything giving away free content. Right now i'm doing 1:450 with AMAZING rebills on something very unique. Something hard to get. So the numbers are great. 19.95$ per sales/rebills by the way. I have been online since 97 and trust me, it's the only problem. Make it rare and people will buy it. Simple as that. | 
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|  02-17-2011, 10:56 AM | #28 | |
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|  02-17-2011, 11:02 AM | #29 | 
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				 | No matter what, porn sells. Who is buying and how you sell it will continue to change and evolve. It's survival of the fittest, bitches. The people doing all the bitching are those who feel threatened. The people doing well are keeping their mouth shut about it, keeping their heads down working hard and dont have time to bitch cuz they are too busy finding new ways to maximize their profits  Its just natural business evolution that we could not keep making ridiculously easy profits like we did in '99. The whiners need to get over it. The law of supply and demand was destined to kick in and create competition to reduce the profit margins. If it wasnt the tubes it would have been something else (more webmaster competition, laws, increased operating costs, who knows) However, I do love seeing people bitch & whine on the boards about the state of the business -- they are discouraging others, which means less competition for me! Thanks to all the whiners!  | 
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|  02-17-2011, 11:03 AM | #30 | 
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				 | I don't blame anyone ... 
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|  02-17-2011, 11:04 AM | #31 | 
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				 | Brazzers Sells traffic? What are you talking about ? We BUY traffic and make the most money for all our webmasters day in day out. If you are referring to why we don't show our Paysites 100% of the impressions on company owned traffic sources... quite frankly we buy alot on there also but after a while there is just way to many ppl on there and its not efficient to run only our stuff on there. We push the limit tho and on many sites we do in fact buy 100% of the traffic  | 
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|  02-17-2011, 11:33 AM | #32 | |
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 Does it look like this: Yo bro can u cancell muh membership? Or am I way off now? ;))) 
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|  02-17-2011, 12:00 PM | #33 | 
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				 | Hey I am gonna buy a parking lot and fill it up with cars with the keys in the ignition, let people come by and drive them around for as long as they want. Lets see if they come back and buy them from me. 
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|  02-17-2011, 12:40 PM | #34 | 
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				 | You are all racists. Links pulled. | 
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|  02-17-2011, 12:50 PM | #35 | 
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|  02-17-2011, 12:56 PM | #36 | 
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				 | oh my god OMG | 
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|  02-17-2011, 01:50 PM | #38 | 
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|  02-17-2011, 01:56 PM | #39 | 
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				 | i still want to know how a chat room proves it's black people?  
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|  02-17-2011, 02:27 PM | #40 | 
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				 | Sleazy ............ . | 
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|  02-17-2011, 02:28 PM | #41 | 
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				 | I'd like to see the some stats screenshots 
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|  02-17-2011, 02:45 PM | #42 | 
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				 | Did yo' axe dem if dey was Bros? | 
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|  02-17-2011, 03:08 PM | #43 | 
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				 | I don't have any I made it all up. Fucking tubes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   | 
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