An easy, free and effective way to Protect Your Paysite agains Piracy

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  • just a punk
    So fuckin' bored
    • Jun 2003
    • 32393

    #1

    An easy, free and effective way to Protect Your Paysite agains Piracy

    Here is my suggestion on how you can improve the your content protection system. The idea is very simple and it's based on the same principle as email verification on message boards (e.g. gfy.com).

    So when the surfer is gonna to enter the member's area, he will be asked to enter his login and password as usually. When everything is entered and checked the surfer will be redirected to the intermediate page which with a message like that:

    Dear [login_name],

    To enter the member area, you have to follow the confirmation URL which was sent to your email. This is an extra security measure to fight the piracy.

    Thank you for understanding!
    Now, the customer opens his email box (this shouldn't be a problem because it takes additional more seconds only) and sees there a new message:

    Dear [name from credit card],

    Please click the following URL, to enter the member area of [paysite name]: [URL*]

    Thank you!
    The last action the customer will need to enter the members area is to click the given URL and vuala, he is there!

    So guys and girls, what do you thing about this method? Perhaps you can suggest something to improve it, because it's just an idea, as as any other idea it's always open for the improvements.

    __________________________________________________ __________________
    * the URL will contain some unique code which was generated on the paysite side
    when login and password were successfully matched.
    Obey the Cowgod
  • Emil
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2007
    • 5658

    #2
    It would work but it sounds like a way to piss the member off.
    But it could save down the users IP when he clicks on the link in the mail and the next time the user wont have to login via mail if the IP is the same.
    If the user got a new IP he will have to click the link again.
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    • Paul Markham
      Too old to care
      • Jun 2001
      • 52942

      #3
      I've said it before and will say it again.

      It won't stop piracy taking our money.

      So many sites have content that's not individual enough to make it worth saving the effect on incomes will be low. So what if you've the only site with Jane Smith on. She's just another girl shot in a way every one else shots her that the free surfer will take from somewhere else.

      And loss of income is the only thing people hate. Piracy has been around from day 1 of the Internet. Until it started to cost money no one really cared.



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      • DamianJ
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jul 2006
        • 15808

        #4
        Originally posted by Paul Markham
        I've said it before and will say it again.

        It won't stop piracy taking our money.

        So many sites have content that's not individual enough to make it worth saving the effect on incomes will be low. So what if you've the only site with Jane Smith on. She's just another girl shot in a way every one else shots her that the free surfer will take from somewhere else.

        And loss of income is the only thing people hate. Piracy has been around from day 1 of the Internet. Until it started to cost money no one really cared.
        Paul, why don't you start your own board called something like paulmarkhamsbrokenrecord.com and just post there every day saying the same old shit you always say?

        Just an idea...

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        • just a punk
          So fuckin' bored
          • Jun 2003
          • 32393

          #5
          Originally posted by Emil
          It would work but it sounds like a way to piss the member off.
          I don't think it will. Actually how many times a day the average surfer have to do this?

          Originally posted by Emil
          But it could save down the users IP when he clicks on the link in the mail and the next time the user wont have to login via mail if the IP is the same.
          If the user got a new IP he will have to click the link again.
          However with such an improvement it will work even better, because it sufficiently reduces the email confirmation use. Thanks for the tip
          Obey the Cowgod

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          • Inter-Sex
            Confirmed User
            • Nov 2005
            • 2231

            #6
            So if there is a hickup with the email,
            the joiner have to wait with his dick in the hands with wank ?

            Not sure if he like it, he might be "small" again in this timespan.

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            • stoka
              Confirmed User
              • Dec 2005
              • 956

              #7
              Originally posted by Inter-Sex
              So if there is a hickup with the email,
              the joiner have to wait with his dick in the hands with wank ?

              Not sure if he like it, he might be "small" again in this timespan.
              lol

              .....

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              • SmokeyTheBear
                ►SouthOfHeaven
                • Jun 2004
                • 28609

                #8
                this doesn't really stop piracy , this stops password trading. not a huge impact on sales. but a good idea either way.
                hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                • woj
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 47882

                  #9
                  not a bad idea, but like others have said won't do shit to stop piracy
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                  • Robbie
                    Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 20960

                    #10
                    I'm not sure how that stops somebody from downloading your content and reuploading it?

                    Sounds like your method is really a way to try and ensure that the person logging in isn't using a hacked password...not protection against piracy.

                    That's already not a problem for most sites using companies like phantomfrog (like we do).

                    But this solution you're talking about doesn't do anything to stop people from joining, downloading, and then re-uploading. Which happens massively everyday. Those millions of links full of ripped members area scenes on pornbb dot org weren't put there by password hackers. They were put there by guys who joined the sites and then uploaded the scenes to file sharing sites.
                    -Robbie
                    ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                    • gleem
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 5593

                      #11
                      won't work, too many members don't use real email addresses, and the ones who will rip your site and stick it on the likes of rapidshare are usually the ones using proxies and stolen cards.




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                      • TheDoc
                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                        • Jul 2001
                        • 13827

                        #12
                        The newest strategy to combat piracy is to simply delete all the videos from your members area. Reports have come in saying this solution works hands down.
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                        • Robbie
                          Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 20960

                          #13
                          Originally posted by TheDoc
                          The newest strategy to combat piracy is to simply delete all the videos from your members area. Reports have come in saying this solution works hands down.
                          -Robbie
                          ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                          • DWB
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 31779

                            #14
                            Originally posted by TheDoc
                            The newest strategy to combat piracy is to simply delete all the videos from your members area. Reports have come in saying this solution works hands down.
                            I endorse this radical new method.

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                            • just a punk
                              So fuckin' bored
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 32393

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Inter-Sex
                              So if there is a hickup with the email,
                              the joiner have to wait with his dick in the hands with wank ?
                              The same as with a hickup on the paysite. Don't see any problem here.
                              Obey the Cowgod

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                              • DamianJ
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 15808

                                #16
                                Originally posted by TheDoc
                                The newest strategy to combat piracy is to simply delete all the videos from your members area. Reports have come in saying this solution works hands down.
                                That's what DVTimes did on his flagship title www.vanbabes.com from day 1. It's NEVER had a single video on it.

                                That cat is ahead of the game, you all look down on him for doing nothing than posting shit links to shit stories on the BBC website, but you need to look deeper. Man got game, yo.

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                                • MaxxB
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Oct 2002
                                  • 227

                                  #17
                                  password sharing is not a key problem today
                                  it can be stopped by smart monitoring of password use and that is enough

                                  additional security will be too inconvenient for users

                                  and this will not stop content sharing and piracy at all..

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                                  • blackmonsters
                                    Making PHP work
                                    • Nov 2002
                                    • 20966

                                    #18
                                    The key to ending piracy is very simple.
                                    Go after the sites that allow the upload.

                                    But it's easier said than done of course.
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                                    • gmr324
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2006
                                      • 1199

                                      #19
                                      Password sharing are piracy and definitely seperate issues. Adding more hoops for user login won't necessarily stop piracy with so many free anonymous email services around.

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                                      • Domain Diva
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Oct 2007
                                        • 10180

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by TheDoc
                                        The newest strategy to combat piracy is to simply delete all the videos from your members area. Reports have come in saying this solution works hands down.
                                        The problem with this strategy is that it upsets new members ..maybe make the members area a simple page full of links to the top 50 tube sites ? ...this way your members get to stream all the latest content ...instant updates etc and it requires no effort and no huge bandwidth charges ..its a win-win for the site owner and surfer...

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                                        • just a punk
                                          So fuckin' bored
                                          • Jun 2003
                                          • 32393

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by the AngEl
                                          password sharing is not a key problem today
                                          it can be stopped by smart monitoring of password use and that is enough

                                          additional security will be too inconvenient for users

                                          and this will not stop content sharing and piracy at all..
                                          AngEl, I won't agree with you at all. Yes, content sharing ins the main problem, but password sharing/theft/fitting is a prat of it, and it can be prevented.
                                          Obey the Cowgod

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                                          • HerPimp
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2006
                                            • 1197

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by gmr324
                                            Password sharing are piracy and definitely seperate issues. Adding more hoops for user login won't necessarily stop piracy with so many free anonymous email services around.

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                                            • seeandsee
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                                              • Mar 2006
                                              • 50945

                                              #23
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                                              • Robbie
                                                Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                • Aug 2002
                                                • 20960

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by cyberxxx
                                                AngEl, I won't agree with you at all. Yes, content sharing ins the main problem, but password sharing/theft/fitting is a prat of it, and it can be prevented.
                                                cyberxxx most sites out here have had protection against password sharing/theft for years. It's not even an issue when it comes to piracy. Everybody is already using phantomfrog and strongbox (i use phantomfrog).

                                                Piracy is coming from people joining for a few days, downloading the entire site, and then uploading it to file sharing sites. Not from password hacking.
                                                -Robbie
                                                ClaudiaMarie.Com

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