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signupdamnit 02-02-2011 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 17886560)
When I hear about conversions like this 9 out of 10 times the webmaster is sending 100 hits each to all 400 of our sites. No marketing efforts whatsoever.

I never could understand this when you said it before. I understand that if the webmaster isn't actively selling the site then that might affect conversions but most affiliates in 2011 aren't promoting one sponsor. We promote many sponsors so we generally look at averages between sponsors and sites within a given niche. If our promotion techniques suck in general you would expect our overall stats to reflect that. And this guy has sent many thousands of hits so it's a rather large enough sample in my opinion.

Even if he is sending a hundred hits a day to each site, wy does that matter exactly? I have sites I send 30 hits a day to with consistent 1:300 ratios. They are niche sites and getting highly targeted traffic which is tough to get. There's no logical reason that I can think of to explain why 1,000 hits spread out over a month should convert worse than 1,000 of the same quality hits sent in one hour. The only thing I can think of is bots. What do you have in mind with this that I'm not seeing? It doesn't make sense to me so I'm really wondering what you know that I don't. :)

Markul 02-02-2011 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 17886562)
Umm, I'm willing to pay you for that traffic. LOL.

ICQ.

Thanks I'll keep that in mind :thumbsup

I'll just have a wordpress plugin developed where I can swap links as I please, then I can funnel traffic to sites that are converting better. My associate told me that's a days work, should have done that a long time ago haha

Markul 02-02-2011 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 17886560)
When I hear about conversions like this 9 out of 10 times the webmaster is sending 100 hits each to all 400 of our sites. No marketing efforts whatsoever.

Well in this case I've sent 83672 uniques to Adult Video Planet the last year, so I'll say I belong to the 1/10 and I guess that's why I'm not converting. Your associate also told me that site isn't very good at converting.

I'll fix it with my link thing when it's built :)

Markul 02-02-2011 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17886674)
I never could understand this when you said it before. I understand that if the webmaster isn't actively selling the site then that might affect conversions but most affiliates in 2011 aren't promoting one sponsor. We promote many sponsors so we generally look at averages between sponsors and sites within a given niche. If our promotion techniques suck in general you would expect our overall stats to reflect that. And this guy has sent many thousands of hits so it's a rather large enough sample in my opinion.

Even if he is sending a hundred hits a day to each site, wy does that matter exactly? I have sites I send 30 hits a day to with consistent 1:300 ratios. They are niche sites and getting highly targeted traffic which is tough to get. There's no logical reason that I can think of to explain why 1,000 hits spread out over a month should convert worse than 1,000 of the same quality hits sent in one hour. The only thing I can think of is bots. What do you have in mind with this that I'm not seeing? It doesn't make sense to me so I'm really wondering what you know that I don't. :)

I'd say that it's true that focusing your marketing (that's what I'm reading as his point) should generate more sales.

In this case I have sent a ton of traffic to the wrong site and then a tail of sites (where two has converted with good ratios).

But if I had two pay sites where one wasn't converting at all, and that affiliates were still stupid enough (that'd be me) to keep sending traffic. I'd direct it all to the good site and share the cut with the affiliates :2 cents::2 cents:

kada 02-02-2011 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 17886560)
When I hear about conversions like this 9 out of 10 times the webmaster is sending 100 hits each to all 400 of our sites. No marketing efforts whatsoever.

It doesnt matter even if thats the case.. thats still a shitload of traffic..
the truth is pimproll converts really bad. :(

PR_Glen 02-02-2011 01:46 PM

Dave is referring to a different type of complaint we get often. In Markul's case it was simply the fact that he was sending, a decent amount of traffic, to sites that we no longer offer in some cases, such as adult video planet. So I've been working with Markul all day and have given him a list of solid sites that he can try out that i know will do better for him. I'm optimistic on this one that he will be getting better numbers very shortly even.

PR_Glen 02-02-2011 02:06 PM

One thing I will add here is that not everyones sales methods are the same, people don't realize that someone with the same niche focused traffic and same style of blog can convert completely different from them based off of some of the simplest details. Some bloggers choose to keep their text shorter and to the point, some write longer posts in order to entice the surfer more. Some will use free price points when another is selling well with 9.99 trials. Some will link their thumb directly to the join and others will send it to a corresponding gallery first. Basically the variables are endless. So if you aren't converting as well as the guy beside you it's not always the programs fault, sometimes you just need to tweak what you are doing to get the numbers you need. Sometime you can't convert a site now matter what you do and have to move on.

Talking with us is definitely a good idea, as both me and Ross are up to our elbows in conversion numbers and site data all day around here so we can help point you in the right direction one way or another.

Fabien 02-02-2011 02:11 PM

1:800 for the past months (since november)

PR_Dave 02-02-2011 02:16 PM

What a min, this thread was started about traffic being sent to a long discontinued product?

Sure your links still track but AVP is a relic of the past.

Markul 02-02-2011 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Dave (Post 17887079)
What a min, this thread was started about traffic being sent to a long discontinued product?

Sure your links still track but AVP is a relic of the past.

Yep it appears so and in my book it ended up being potentially very productive on more than one front.

I'd like to thank Glen for his input and his work. It's led to me finding a potential solution on how to gain a much more flexible network in terms for traffic :thumbsup

The thread wasn't really started to single Pimp Roll out, I started to pull stats from a couple of sponsors and was wondering :)

SwirlsGirl 02-02-2011 03:01 PM

not one reality amateur interracial or cuckold site in that huge list... either you don't keep your eye on the pulse of consumer demand or you willfully refuse to promote anything other than commercial fluff...enjoy your 0/2,000,000 ratios.

times have changed so should your niche

Just saying there are many mom and pop amateur interracial sites that pound for pound beat everyone of those commercial sites listed...

I have always promoted amateur interracial and have done 10-15 times the revenue than I have with commercial interracial. That's real talk.

Markul 02-02-2011 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SwirlsGirl (Post 17887332)
not one reality amateur interracial or cuckold site in that huge list... either you don't keep your eye on the pulse of consumer demand or you willfully refuse to promote anything other than commercial fluff...enjoy your 0/2,000,000 ratios.

times have changed so should your niche

Just saying there are many mom and pop amateur interracial sites that pound for pound beat everyone of those commercial sites listed...

I have always promoted amateur interracial and have done 10-15 times the revenue than I have with commercial interracial. That's real talk.

Good point, if my next move works out just a little I'll be building on the sites and not trying to get rid of them. Thanks for the niche advice :)


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