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  • Aussie Rebel
    Blow Me U Geeks
    • Aug 2001
    • 5108

    #1

    Private Media Wants to Be the Groupon of Porn

    I'm not sure if this has been posted or not, it's a 4 day old story.. Interesting though



    Sex sells: The Barcelona-based adult movie company Private Media is taking a unique twist on an old mantra, preparing an ambitious effort to compete with free and unlicensed content online. Private?s goal is to completely revamp its entire business, generate revenue from advertising with a Groupon-like voucher twist and give away the majority of its content for free. ?There is no reason to continue to charge people,? said Private CEO Berth Milton during a phone conversation last Friday.

    Like everyone in the porn business, Private has seen its revenues erode in recent years as consumers flock to file sharing networks and sites like YouPorn for free and unlicensed copies of their movies. A few competitors have started to sue end users for file sharing, but Milton doesn?t think this is the right way to go. ?We don?t mind P2P, that?s absolutely okay?, he told me, reiterating that noncommercial piracy can actually serve as promotion.

    What he doesn?t like are adult YouTube clones, oftentimes called tube sites within the industry, that try to make money with his company?s content. Private has sued a number of these sites in the past, but now it wants to confront them head-on by opening up its own free and ad-supported porn sites.

    The problem with this approach is that major brands usually don?t like to see their goods advertised next to movies like On Vacation With My Slut Sister. Tube and torrent sites tend to run ads for a few online dating services, and the CPMs for these ads bring in a fraction of the money major media outlets make online. Other sites try to get affiliate fees by redirecting users to paid porn, but Milton calls this a ?stupid business model.?

    Private?s solution to this problem is pretty daring. The company is about to team up with a major Italian ad agency to get access to major brand advertising without any actual involvement of the companies that make these products. ?We don?t need approval for any of the luxury brands,? said Milton.

    How will this work in detail? Let?s say fashion brand buys ad space on a traditional TV outlet through the agency. The brand pays the agency not in cash, but with its products valued at wholesale price. These products then get offered via Private?s sites for a outlet-like discount, and Private only gets paid for any actual sales.

    Milton told me that this setup is inspired by Groupon?s voucher system. Some of the first items sold through this unique relationship will be clothing from major fashion brands and gym equipment. These sales will initially be restricted to Europe, but Milton hopes to quickly expand to the U.S. as well, and he firmly believes that he?ll be able to cater to millions and millions of customers. ?It will explode,? he said.

    Private wants to supplement its ad income with other new revenue streams, ranging from an online casino it is going to launch in mid-February to a swingers hotel that is scheduled to open its doors in Barcelona in July. The hotel is a first test case, but Milton believes that he can quickly expand to 100 similar hotels operated on a franchise basis that specifically cater to swingers. And he isn?t ready to give up on selling content entirely; part of the hotel will be an offer for a free stay if guests are willing to have their escapades live-streamed on one of Private?s pay sites.

    All of these plans are overshadowed by an ongoing legal struggle with some of Private?s investors over control of the company involving former CEO Ivan Buminovitz, who was ousted in July. Milton tried to assure me that the conflict won?t have any impact on his company?s move towards new business models, and recent regulatory filings seem to suggest that he does have the backing of a majority of stock holders. However, NASDAQ has threatened to delist Private as a result of the prolonged power struggle.

    Still, Milton seems optimistic about Private?s future. He lamented that the porn biz spent too long holding onto old business models, thus effectively digging their own holes, all the while porn online is exploding. ?(Adult) companies are getting smaller, but the market is getting bigger,? he remarked. Milton believes that it?s overdue for companies like Private to profit from this trend. ?When I started, we could sell in a few select porn shops,? he said, adding: ?Now we can sell to a billion consumers.?

    source: http://gigaom.com/video/groupon-porn/
  • Agent 488
    Registered User
    • Feb 2006
    • 22511

    #2
    think outside the box or die.

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    • moeloubani
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2007
      • 4235

      #3
      Does this say that to combat what they feel are the worst of the worst, tubes giving out free stuff, they will form a tube, and then on the tube they will give out free stuff?

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      • Agent 488
        Registered User
        • Feb 2006
        • 22511

        #4
        Originally posted by moeloubani
        Does this say that to combat what they feel are the worst of the worst, tubes giving out free stuff, they will form a tube, and then on the tube they will give out free stuff?
        read it again.

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        • harvey
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2001
          • 9266

          #5
          This has failure written all over it. The problems with Private didn't start with tubes, they started way before the tubes because they have no capable people running the online side of their business and they couldn't match what they did with their offline sources of revenue.

          Anyway, I wrote an article a few months ago explaining why Private failed and will continue failing if they don't do something. If this is the something they were planning... well, I'd recommend you to sell your shares of Private.

          I can see how and why they'll fail, they have a huge Damocles sword pending over their heads, and even though the final answer is very easy (and they even recognize the risks involved), I think that one of the main problems they had, and what is leading to this situation (besides the lack of knowledgeable human resources) is that they forgot what led them to the path of success. And to make it worse, they want to try a highly competitive business model while not having a clue about it.

          Sorry if there's any Private guys around, I'm a huge fan of the brand and can't even understand why are you letting the brand fail this way. It's harsh, but it's true. At least, that's how I see it, take it fwiw
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          • Agent 488
            Registered User
            • Feb 2006
            • 22511

            #6
            basically they are going to sell shoes and gym equipment on their tubes.

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            • BIGTYMER
              Junior Achiever
              • Nov 2004
              • 17066

              #7
              Smells like fail to me.

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              • harvey
                Confirmed User
                • Jul 2001
                • 9266

                #8
                on a side note, it's amazing how business issues, including marketing and business organization trends that may shed a light on what everybody is crying about are ignored by most people here, the OP should have posted a "would you hit it" thread!
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                • Nathan
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 3108

                  #9
                  Milton is going to destroy Private if he continues this way. That's my opinion...

                  His approach of selling goods on his tube sounds interesting.. if he had any traffic of course... He's trying to sue youjizz and get the domain, most likely because of this tactic.. thing he does not get is that suing any of those tubes will take longer than Private can survive under his control.

                  Private is not releasing new content, they are only revamping old shit... It's sad.. I actually saw a "Best of Best of" DVD in a store recently...

                  I am amazed the stock can stick to $1 still. It should be far below that considering that most likely they'll get de-listed soon.
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                  • RycEric
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                    • Apr 2009
                    • 1313

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Agent 488
                    basically they are going to sell shoes and gym equipment on their tubes.
                    I believe someone else has already tried that and experienced an EPIC FAIL.

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                    • RycEric
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 1313

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nathan
                      Milton is going to destroy Private if he continues this way. That's my opinion...

                      His approach of selling goods on his tube sounds interesting.. if he had any traffic of course... He's trying to sue youjizz and get the domain, most likely because of this tactic.. thing he does not get is that suing any of those tubes will take longer than Private can survive under his control.

                      Private is not releasing new content, they are only revamping old shit... It's sad.. I actually saw a "Best of Best of" DVD in a store recently...

                      I am amazed the stock can stick to $1 still. It should be far below that considering that most likely they'll get de-listed soon.
                      Have to say I agree. I told their counsel, at one time, they should just buy empflix.com because every release of theirs was on there.... just broken into 100's of scenes. It was for sale at one point.. not sure if it still is.

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                      • stever
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 1716

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nathan
                        I am amazed the stock can stick to $1 still. It should be far below that considering that most likely they'll get de-listed soon.
                        this new idea sounds great! NOT!
                        can i short the stock?
                        Last edited by stever; 01-30-2011, 10:43 PM.


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                        • RycEric
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                          • Apr 2009
                          • 1313

                          #13
                          http://biz.yahoo.com/e/110125/prvt8-k.html

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                          • babymaker
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 4751

                            #14
                            ehhhhhhhhhhh ok so they will sell jeans or something instead of cams?? ehhhhhhhh ok............. that will work just dandy lol :D

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                            • harvey
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2001
                              • 9266

                              #15
                              Originally posted by RycEric
                              although interesting, I don't see how may it affect their business procedures.

                              Anyway, I think either Milton or someone in the management is trying a desperate move (unless they're doing a "not so desperate move" and there's more to this history) to save the company, but it seems to me they're clutching at straws. IMHO, more than MBAs they need someone who knows the online business.
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