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The content displayed on Amazinghotmovies.com is proven, it is earning a 5-digit sum (USD) every month (across various VOD-Sites, like AEBN).
This result was achieved without spending a single penny on marketing efforts.


So you're telling us that if anybody will make a site like yours will be able to earn a 5 figure amount each month without doing anything marketing related????

So you expect that the content which made that much money on vod network sites which are being promoted all over the net will make the same amount on it's own?

Guess your best option is to join forces with Paul Markham and PastorSinAlot

Im not expecting anything bns666 but it is hard to believe that without any marketing support Amazinghotmovies.com can generate 5 figures/month profit.

question was actually for a thread starter.

this is just a paysite with content which made money on vod sites, hard to expect that it will easily make the same on its own.

No, of course I'm not telling you that. But I am very surprised that you would think that. May be my posting is not clear enough.

I have only mentioned past results on VOD-Sites, because it is a proof that my content can generate revenues.

Is that a guarantee that a membership-site will work? Of course not, but it is an indication.

And if we're talking about American VOD-Sites, as well as German Amateur-Sites, and consistent results, over more than 18 months, in that case I would say that it is a strong indication.



The only reason I have opened this thread is to find somebody who knows about SEO/Marketing and is willing to apply it.

So of course something marketing-related has to be done, that's the whole point of this thread!



"This result was achieved without spending a single penny on marketing efforts."

May be this sentence was a bit misleading . I mean I didn't spend money on marketing, so the content was never really emphasized. Of course AEBN etc. have huge marketing activities.


All I'm saying is that if you know how to generate traffic, you may want to take a look at my content.

In the case of vubado.com (this site is run only with my content), the owner programmed the entire website and is in charge of all the marketing activities, revenue is split 50/50.

I am completely fine with that.

My prediction is it will make a lot more on its own.


Here is my explanation why:



On AEBN, hotmovies.com I'm competing with thousands of studios.


Every Niche you could even imagine. There's no reason that anybody should even spend anything on the content I provide.

The fact that I am making somewhat serious revenues there makes me positive.


I mean, if you survive the jungle with about 1000 competitors, doesn't it make sense you could survive on your own?



You're rightfully saying that the Big VOD Sites have a huge marketing activity. But if you think that this will help in any way, when it comes to selling content that is completely unknown, with a completely unkown studio, just try it out.



I'm sure you could spare a couple of hundred dollars, which is all you need for the test drive.


Put the content up on AEBN and hotmovies, and see what kind of results you get.






Just to make it clear one more time, AEBN and hotmovies, those are gigantic sites, with hundreds/thousand of active studios, some of the most succesful studios in porn history.




The most important reason I believe my content is going to perform better as a paysite than on the big VOD sites, is because of a result on a different site.




The website is called homepornon.com

It is a German site, mainly focused on German Customers.

In the 6 months from July 2011 to December 2011 46000 US-$ were generated with my content, on that site alone.


The period before that was a lot worse, but the only reason for that is, I believe, that they banned my account, so there were no updates for almost 2 months.



Much more important than the total revenue, in my opinion, is the relative result.

My account has been Number 1, I would estimate 70-80% of the time, being in the TOP 3 100% of the time (looking at the past 6 months).

Currently the results are: Number 2 in the monthly ranking, Number 1 in the yearly ranking, Number 1 in the all time ranking.

These results are published by calculating which account sold the most movies.




I believe that these results are much more meaningful than any result on AEBN, hotmovies, could ever be.



Just by applying common sense:

If you put up content on a site which has 1000 studios, and you put up the same content on a site with 20 Studios, which results are going to be more meaningful?


Well I don't believe a PhD in math is necessary to figure out that the result on the site with 20 studios is much more meaningful.


I would estimate that the number of serious studios on homepornon.com is somewhere between 10-20 (compared with 1500 on AEBN).


Although homepornon.com is a relatively professional site, it has nowhere close to the marketing activity or marketing budget as the big American VOD sites.


If you were to ask me for an estimate, I would estimate homepornon.com has less than 1% (likely even less than 0.1%) of the traffic and active members than AEBN.


But yet, my revenue is a lot higher on homepornon than it is on AEBN!

Basically, I have already proven that the more focused the traffic, the less competitors there are, the better the result.


And the highest "level" of that, would be to have no competitors, and only my content! Which is just a different way of describing a membership-based paysite.



So much for the theory.


vubado.com is run with my content. This guy decided to focus only on the MILF-Niche.

In less than 2 months, almost 500 US-$ were generated.

That is not the most spectacular result ever. But the traffic generation has also not been that great, something like 1000-2000 visitors per day.

The owner of vubado.com is doing nothing more than a couple of tube uploads per day, as far as I am aware.


If anything, vubado.com proves that sign-ups can be generated for a membership site based on my content.

It certainly is too early to judge, but there have been more sign-ups in month 2 than in month 1.

But for sure I would not judge any amount of traffic below 1 million unique visitors, which vubado.com is far away from. There haven't even been 100.000 visitors.



One idea is to create another site with my content, but to have the billing as if it where a vod-site (and not a monthly billing). With about 400 videos so far, I don't think that Idea is far-fetched. I have always gotten better results with the German Amateur-/VOD-Sites, compared with the American VOD-Sites.

The main difference is that the American Sites are billing per Minute, whereas the German Sites are billing per scene. It could be a good indicator as to which route to take.





You mentioned the word "easily" in your second posting in this thread, and the other poster "adultforum" mentioned the phrase "no marketing activities".

I never claimed that things would be easy, or that you can make money here with no marketing activities! Of course it is going to be tough and a take a lot of work!


All I'm claiming is that the potential is there. Just because there are diamonds in a certain area, doesn't mean they can be easily found or without effort! And of course, just because potential is there, doesn't mean that anything will ever be found.

I am not guaranteeing anything, but neither does any other affiliate program I know of.

Think about what you wrote

Are you talking to yourself?

Trust me, I thought a lot about my posting. And I'm standing behind this idea now more than ever.


And unlike your posting it is not the result of about 10 seconds of thinking (if that).

If you want to talk to yourself, please spam other threads, there are more than enough in this forum. Alternatively, sign up to your local therapy group, I'm sure people will be glad to help you out. And nobody will be mad at you there for talking useless nonsense.

You need to hire someone who knows what the hell they are doing. First step would be your tour.

Yeah, of course, but he doesn't want to pay for anyone. This is his problem.

Calm down, he makes some points, cause it is you are sharing a plan with the whole world to read, and your writing it like your talking to yourself a little??

BTW, I get the idea, people can use your content, make a paysite and you become 50% owner of his income ..... right? That sounds like a generous deal.

I agree. The Tour could definitely use some improvement. Although I would suggest that the only urgent improvement is to have Video Previews.

I mean, the site did have some conversions, with the ridiculous 150*150 size "preview pictures" at juicyads.com

I didn't press on the Issue of Video previews, because we're currently uploading previews to the tube sites. It makes sense to me, that somebody who is referred from the tube sites, doesn't necessarily need preview videos.

Well, I think that statement is ridiculous.

I spent almost 2000$ on the website.

I spent another 4-digit sum on purchasing direct traffic.


And lets not forget about the "SEO-Experts", which set me back about 1800 Dollars.

All without results, I should mention. Allthough actually who cares about results, as long as people get paid, they never will worry about any results. By "people" I obviously mean SEO/Marketing experts.


It's like communism is alive again...but its not alive in China, it's alive in the Porn Industry!




I don't want to waste money, and amazinghotmovies.com has been a big waste so far.

On the other hand, the revenues at the VOD-Sites are still going well. So, in other words, the content can't be blamed.


I'm definitely willing to pay people, but there need be results.

It makes much more sense for me to reverse the relation, and say "everybody who generates valuable traffic, will get paid".


The problem isn't me not wanting to pay people. The problem is people expecting to get paid without achieving results.

When I was starting out with content purchases, it was exactly the same story.

I've gotten ripped off so many times, I lost count. I would almost expect a rip off every time doing a transaction with an unknown content dealer. I would continue nevertheless.

And forget about brand names, even adultfilmstarcontent dot com has ripped me off. Was only about 200$-300$, but still worth mentioning.


At least I have a number of reliable content providers now. I'm hoping to achieve the same in the marketing/SEO-arena.


But when you're asking for a monthly payment, you're about the 10th guy in line saying that. And I would respond by saying, have results first. If you achieve results, I guarantee you will get paid.


What's really interesting is that I suggested to split the fees several times.

So let's say somebody has an idea about a new website design, or a new traffic source. I've been in this situation several times, and suggested to split the cost 50/50.

How can I take anybody serious who isn't even willing to put up 50% of the cost (and get the content free on top of that)?

Well, 10% Payout could be a generous deal, or 90% Payout could be a rip-off.

That only depends on how many sign-ups can be generated. Nobody can answer that question for sure. But I can try to estimate that. And I think it should be well worth a try to market this content.

Won't mention specifics, but vubado.com sales are increasing very visibly, and its only the second month. Vubado.com was created with my content exclusively.

Hit me up on icq and let's talk...

What is your ICQ Number?

Mine is 612426122

I am interested to discuss the offer.

Ok, I added on you on skype, my skype ID is freewayrick2