The Decline of Computer Programming in America

**glowlite** · 07-12-2011, 06:53 PM

I think it depends on the geo location within the US as to how it's handled.
http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/mon...cc4c002e0.html

**96ukssob** · 07-12-2011, 07:17 PM

I was just having this conversation with someone today. Instead of hiring someone in the US, they can hire 5 or more from India. Problem is, I've never seen any of those developers be able to do what 1 good US guy can

**blackmonsters** · 07-12-2011, 07:37 PM

Programming is no longer a reliable long term job.

After programming for 10 years, your company changes to a new language and
now you have 0 years experience instead of 10 in that category on your resume.
And then every other company is looking for 2 years experience in that new language
when you get laid off.

Of couse a programmer with 10 years experince can easily do a great job in the
new language; but companies don't hire like that.

I wouldn't advise anyone to major in computer science.

Programming is the only skill that I know of where companies foolishly think the skill can
expire.

**okok** · 07-12-2011, 07:42 PM

Without reading the article (

) I am going to blame the decline on Sun's successful campaign to get comp sci schools to use Java as a teaching tool in the late 90s/2ks. Legions of idiot grads unfit for anything useful have polluted the talent pool ever since.

**Pipecrew** · 07-12-2011, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by bossku69

I was just having this conversation with someone today. Instead of hiring someone in the US, they can hire 5 or more from India. Problem is, I've never seen any of those developers be able to do what 1 good US guy can

That's probably because your not looking hard enough

**glowlite** · 07-12-2011, 07:59 PM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

Programming is no longer a reliable long term job....

It is for those who make an attempt to stay on top of the situation. If your skillset remains static then yes, you'll sink into oblivion.

**Rochard** · 07-12-2011, 09:16 PM

There is no decline of programming skills in the US. My kid is in 5th grade and does PHP and Mysql already. She already unfucked her school's network once.

**Jey p** · 07-13-2011, 04:00 AM

Originally posted by bossku69

I was just having this conversation with someone today. Instead of hiring someone in the US, they can hire 5 or more from India. Problem is, I've never seen any of those developers be able to do what 1 good US guy can

true ! a US or Argentine guy

**Klen** · 07-13-2011, 04:20 AM

Originally posted by Rochard

There is no decline of programming skills in the US. My kid is in 5th grade and does PHP and Mysql already. She already unfucked her school's network once.

I did something similar in 5th grade,and look where i ended

**marcop** · 07-13-2011, 08:03 AM

Originally posted by blackmonsters

Programming is no longer a reliable long term job.

After programming for 10 years, your company changes to a new language and
now you have 0 years experience instead of 10 in that category on your resume.
And then every other company is looking for 2 years experience in that new language
when you get laid off.

Of couse a programmer with 10 years experince can easily do a great job in the
new language; but companies don't hire like that.

I wouldn't advise anyone to major in computer science.

Programming is the only skill that I know of where companies foolishly think the skill can
expire.

QFT. I was a COBOL programmer, and over 20 years learned loads of other languages, and utilities, etc. Finally I was working at a place that bought AS/400 computers and they decided on a RPG as the programming language instead of COBOL--God knows why because all the programmers knew COBOL and no-one knew RPG. That's when I decided to get out of IT.

**chronig** · 07-13-2011, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by bossku69

I was just having this conversation with someone today. Instead of hiring someone in the US, they can hire 5 or more from India. Problem is, I've never seen any of those developers be able to do what 1 good US guy can

Sounds like you're not a very good job recruiter

**chronig** · 07-13-2011, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by Rochard

There is no decline of programming skills in the US. My kid is in 5th grade and does PHP and Mysql already. She already unfucked her school's network once.

Better train her to be an entrepreneur/webmaster and not a programmer lackie that will have to compete with indians doing PHP in 1st grade!

**96ukssob** · 07-13-2011, 08:06 AM

Originally posted by chronig

Sounds like you're not a very good job recruiter

im not trying to recruit people that can't do their job. either way, who gives a fuck, I wasnt the one hiring moron

**19teenporn** · 07-13-2011, 08:09 AM

The decline in computer programming in america...

North America, Central America or South America?

**qwe** · 07-13-2011, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by bossku69

I was just having this conversation with someone today. Instead of hiring someone in the US, they can hire 5 or more from India. Problem is, I've never seen any of those developers be able to do what 1 good US guy can

US programmers want way too much money for their job, if that Indian guy was getting what US guy gets I'm sure the job would be pretty close.....

The Decline of Computer Programming in America

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