Anyone know about the litigation in California involving iBill & celebrity sites? - GoFuckYourself.com

pet kangaroo · 01-16-2003, 03:28 PM

Apparently there's something going on, that's why they're holding all celeb sites funds and refusing to hand them over.

I don't run a celeb site by the way, just heard about this.

Brujah · 01-16-2003, 05:45 PM

Do you know which sites ? Is this another Perfect 10 and Norm Zadeh thing ?

Hentai · 01-16-2003, 05:57 PM

Maybe this? "PERFECT 10 has sued the largest AVS and will be suing the second largest AVS shortly. "
http://www.perfect10.com/news.html

What does Perfect10 have to do with celebs anyway?

Matt_WildCash · 01-16-2003, 06:07 PM

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Originally posted by Hentai
Maybe this? "PERFECT 10 has sued the largest AVS and will be suing the second largest AVS shortly. "
http://www.perfect10.com/news.html

What does Perfect10 have to do with celebs anyway?

Yep noticed how Adultbouncer removed ALL of there 150 celebrity sites after reading that article i'm sure.

Brujah · 01-16-2003, 06:10 PM

Well, I think it goes like this...

Norm doesn't make enough money because people with celebrity sites are unfair competition. He has to spend $25,000 for every image, $7,500 for a hammer, and I think $65,000 for a toilet seat. He shops at the pentagon. So since it's unfair, Norm wants the justice system to shut his competition down and award him lots of money to compensate for things. If you want lots of money, you target companies with lots of money that enable this unfairness to be profitable. The billing companies make a good target.

Interlude · 01-16-2003, 07:14 PM

What Brujah said, although it's complicated by the fact that lots of celebrity sites used to do shady shit like posting fakes and using P-10 pictures in them. It's a money-grabbing scam, plain and simple, which is why he's going after processors instead of the sites themselves.

Basically, imagine if your models sued you even though they don't own the copyrights to your content, or if your competition sued you because their photographer charges 50X more than yours. I'm not surprised though, this guy employs a very high-profile law firm in SoCal that I'm sure costs a pretty penny just to send cease-and-decist emails to people. It's no wonder he claims P-10 spends $10,000 per photo, it's probably all legal fees.

pet kangaroo · 01-16-2003, 07:17 PM

Can't see anything new on that Perfect 10 site. Obtaining an injunction on an AVS is one thing, but a 3rd party billing company is somewhat different. The member is not joining the billing company like they do with an AVS.

Perhaps iBill is using this whole issue as a means of keeping some money to help them out of their current crisis??

ZoiNk · 01-16-2003, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by pet kangaroo
Can't see anything new on that Perfect 10 site. Obtaining an injunction on an AVS is one thing, but a 3rd party billing company is somewhat different. The member is not joining the billing company like they do with an AVS.

Perhaps iBill is using this whole issue as a means of keeping some money to help them out of their current crisis??

Ibill's dying, bail while you can

ZoiNk

Cogitator · 01-17-2003, 09:09 AM

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Originally posted by ZoiNk
Ibill's dying, bail while you can

You know something we don't?

Trax · 01-17-2003, 09:38 AM

what processors allow celeb sites then?? any ideas

smproduction · 01-17-2003, 10:32 AM

"Ibill's dying,..."

I think it's true, but it will not be so fast

"You know something we don't?"
iBill has been acquired by InterCept, Inc. (Nasdaq: ICPT)

Now read it about Intercept:
http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/mark.../10062023.html

That are not good news, dont you think?

01-16-2003, 03:28 PM	#1
pet kangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 246	Anyone know about the litigation in California involving iBill & celebrity sites? Apparently there's something going on, that's why they're holding all celeb sites funds and refusing to hand them over. I don't run a celeb site by the way, just heard about this.

01-16-2003, 05:45 PM	#2
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Do you know which sites ? Is this another Perfect 10 and Norm Zadeh thing ? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

01-16-2003, 06:10 PM	#5
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Well, I think it goes like this... Norm doesn't make enough money because people with celebrity sites are unfair competition. He has to spend $25,000 for every image, $7,500 for a hammer, and I think $65,000 for a toilet seat. He shops at the pentagon. So since it's unfair, Norm wants the justice system to shut his competition down and award him lots of money to compensate for things. If you want lots of money, you target companies with lots of money that enable this unfairness to be profitable. The billing companies make a good target. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

01-16-2003, 05:57 PM	#3
Hentai Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 52	Maybe this? "PERFECT 10 has sued the largest AVS and will be suing the second largest AVS shortly. " http://www.perfect10.com/news.html What does Perfect10 have to do with celebs anyway?

01-16-2003, 07:14 PM	#6
Interlude Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: State of Denial Posts: 1,147	What Brujah said, although it's complicated by the fact that lots of celebrity sites used to do shady shit like posting fakes and using P-10 pictures in them. It's a money-grabbing scam, plain and simple, which is why he's going after processors instead of the sites themselves. Basically, imagine if your models sued you even though they don't own the copyrights to your content, or if your competition sued you because their photographer charges 50X more than yours. I'm not surprised though, this guy employs a very high-profile law firm in SoCal that I'm sure costs a pretty penny just to send cease-and-decist emails to people. It's no wonder he claims P-10 spends $10,000 per photo, it's probably all legal fees.

01-16-2003, 07:17 PM	#7
pet kangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 246	Can't see anything new on that Perfect 10 site. Obtaining an injunction on an AVS is one thing, but a 3rd party billing company is somewhat different. The member is not joining the billing company like they do with an AVS. Perhaps iBill is using this whole issue as a means of keeping some money to help them out of their current crisis??

01-17-2003, 09:38 AM	#10
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	what processors allow celeb sites then?? any ideas

01-17-2003, 10:32 AM	#11
smproduction Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 508	"Ibill's dying,..." I think it's true, but it will not be so fast "You know something we don't?" iBill has been acquired by InterCept, Inc. (Nasdaq: ICPT) Now read it about Intercept: http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/mark.../10062023.html That are not good news, dont you think?