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Great. tnaflix.com spams me to join the FCS anti-piracy program.

01-20-2011, 05:43 AM

As you have contacted us regarding DMCAs in the past we would like to recommend you to register with the Free Speech Coalitions Anti-Piracy Action Program.

Once registered you can fingerprint all of your content and have it instantly removed, replaced with a trailer or truncated on many tube sites including tnaflix.com and empflix.com.

Please goto http://fscapap.com/content.html and register today to help ensure you prevent your content from appearing on user generated tube sites better.

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01-20-2011, 05:47 AM

Likewise, very nice considering I sent them DMCAs over a year ago and just gave up due to no or bogus replies.
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01-20-2011, 06:42 AM

Wow, I'm surprised they are implementing the Digital Fingerprinting.

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01-20-2011, 06:47 AM

Well better something then nothing.
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01-20-2011, 07:15 AM

Same for XVideos and XNXX

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01-20-2011, 07:21 AM

Originally posted by Roald

Same for XVideos and XNXX

There are a few more biggies coming if they aren't already setup. It's going to be the trend with tubes, it's a start.

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01-20-2011, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by kristin

There are a few more biggies coming if they aren't already setup. It's going to be the trend with tubes, it's a start.

Curious to see how this all pans out. I hope it works but I have a feeling once tube visitors start getting jerked around with trailers and ad videos, they will go somewhere else. That's what I would do. Not that I have any sympathy for tube visitors, but this will drive a lot of them to other sites who are not part of the program, and you know there will be plenty of those who will use that to their advantage.

But that all hinges on IF the majority of content owners sign up as well. These tubes have 1000s of scenes, so a handful that revert to trailers may not make any difference at all when you have 1000s more full length videos to choose from.

It's wicked technology though.
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01-20-2011, 08:42 AM

Originally posted by KlenTelaris

Well better something then nothing.

Of course, but don't spam me about it after you've been religiously stealing my shit for the past few years.
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01-20-2011, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

Curious to see how this all pans out. I hope it works but I have a feeling once tube visitors start getting jerked around with trailers and ad videos, they will go somewhere else. That's what I would do. Not that I have any sympathy for tube visitors, but this will drive a lot of them to other sites who are not part of the program, and you know there will be plenty of those who will use that to their advantage.

But that all hinges on IF the majority of content owners sign up as well. These tubes have 1000s of scenes, so a handful that revert to trailers may not make any difference at all when you have 1000s more full length videos to choose from.

It's wicked technology though.

I've seen first hand how many joins tubes can send with full length videos all over the front. Do I agree that those sales should be generated via stolen content? No.

Regardless if we end how tubes work, there will be another medium developed to give surfers free porn.

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01-20-2011, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by kristin

I've seen first hand how many joins tubes can send with full length videos all over the front.

I keep hearing that but I found just the opposite and the ratios were borderline appalling. However, apparently some people can convert them. I can't. And I'd bet I'm probably not in the minority.

Though, I have my hunch that if everyone was doing so well with them that they, the tube owners, would not be converting to a system that would allow content owners to swap those full length videos out with trailers and ads. You also wouldn't see them becoming more and more aggressive with adverting if it was doing so well. I believe like anything else, some do well, some don't, and the same goes for those who try to convert their traffic.

Originally posted by kristin

Regardless if we end how tubes work, there will be another medium developed to give surfers free porn.

Can't argue with that. I have no doubt this incestuous industry will find yet another way to fuck its own ass, and it will probably once again come from "reputable" people.
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01-20-2011, 11:06 AM

no fucking way i would sign up to that fsc fingerprinting garbage.
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01-20-2011, 11:31 AM

LOL! Unreal!

I'd like to ask anyone here with a bit of common sense to ask yourselves this:

Why bother with all of this if these sites are suddenly going to be "nice"? Why don't they simply STOP user upload? Problem solved.

But no...they want to play a new game. At first glance it would seem that they want to just keep stealing as much as they can from anybody who doesn't sign up.

And then there's a little matter of the results for those that do: Your trailer is going to be competing for attention on a tube site full of full length scenes. Good luck with sales.

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01-20-2011, 05:11 PM

I see this racket...

1. Start a Tube site.
2. Upload copyrighted content.
3. Charge content owners for some bullshit membership to stop copyrighted works from being uploaded.
4. Profit.

I'm out.
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01-20-2011, 05:28 PM

you see racket i see mack it.
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01-20-2011, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by Alprazolam

no fucking way i would sign up to that fsc fingerprinting garbage.

I agree.

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01-20-2011, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

As you have contacted us regarding DMCAs in the past we would like to recommend you to register with the Free Speech Coalitions Anti-Piracy Action Program.

Once registered you can fingerprint all of your content and have it instantly removed, replaced with a trailer or truncated on many tube sites including tnaflix.com and empflix.com.

Please goto http://fscapap.com/content.html and register today to help ensure you prevent your content from appearing on user generated tube sites better.

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01-20-2011, 10:50 PM

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01-21-2011, 10:50 AM

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01-21-2011, 11:22 AM

The criminal code has a term for a racket like this. They call it extortion.
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01-21-2011, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by Qbert

The criminal code has a term for a racket like this. They call it extortion.

you are correct. they cannot deny dmca claims and point you somewhere else that you must pay for.
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01-21-2011, 12:06 PM

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01-21-2011, 12:32 PM

Originally posted by iamtam

you are correct. they cannot deny dmca claims and point you somewhere else that you must pay for.

You don't have to pay to use the digital fingerprinting service by the FSC. There is a paid option and a free option.

http://fscapap.com

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01-21-2011, 02:09 PM

Originally posted by kristin

You don't have to pay to use the digital fingerprinting service by the FSC. There is a paid option and a free option.

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01-21-2011, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by kristin

You don't have to pay to use the digital fingerprinting service by the FSC. There is a paid option and a free option.

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Isn't it still taking a percentage of the content owners normal revenue though and distributing it in part to the tube? If that's the case then denying or ignoring a valid DMCA is still a very serious charge when combined with offering such a program. Some courts might construe it as racketeering type behavior.

I'm 100% for a free program independently administered and available to all parties to utilize as a best practice. I'm not okay with something which could be used to push out competition (tubes not owned by the existing industry leaders or content providers and content based sites not owned by the same) or otherwise extort people. In my opinion something like this might best be administered by a government organization or a organization outside adult (such as a joint effort among ISPs). There's a lot of potential for corrupt and anti-competitive activities. For instance, I'm not saying this will happen but how do people know that once the program becomes the standard they won't triple the rates or percentages?

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01-21-2011, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by signupdamnit

I'm not saying this will happen but how do people know that once the program becomes the standard they won't triple the rates or percentages?

Because it's never going to become the standard. Right now you've got some "name" companies who don't have the technological know how to protect their shit (exception is Top Bucks) who just don't want to deal with this anymore and have been told this will turn sales around for them.

Of course it's not even TOUCHING file-sharing or bit torrent or the THOUSANDS of tube sites out there who aren't going along with this.

The reality is...something is going to shake out legally here. The laws WILL change (not because of porn of course, but because of mainstream) and when they do...all this crap will be meaningless.

I predict within 2 to 5 years there will be a replacement for the outdated DMCA law AND international copyright treaties updated to reflect the internet age and the technologies therein.

The trick is to be smart enough and quick enough to survive until then.

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01-21-2011, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by Robbie

Because it's never going to become the standard. Right now you've got some "name" companies who don't have the technological know how to protect their shit (exception is Top Bucks) who just don't want to deal with this anymore and have been told this will turn sales around for them.

Of course it's not even TOUCHING file-sharing or bit torrent or the THOUSANDS of tube sites out there who aren't going along with this.

The reality is...something is going to shake out legally here. The laws WILL change (not because of porn of course, but because of mainstream) and when they do...all this crap will be meaningless.

I predict within 2 to 5 years there will be a replacement for the outdated DMCA law AND international copyright treaties updated to reflect the internet age and the technologies therein.

The trick is to be smart enough and quick enough to survive until then.

I hope you are right, Robbie. I think it's going to take an international effort to do it and that's what has worked against it so far.

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01-21-2011, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by Robbie

LOL! Unreal!

I'd like to ask anyone here with a bit of common sense to ask yourselves this:

Why bother with all of this if these sites are suddenly going to be "nice"? Why don't they simply STOP user upload? Problem solved.

But no...they want to play a new game. At first glance it would seem that they want to just keep stealing as much as they can from anybody who doesn't sign up.

And then there's a little matter of the results for those that do: Your trailer is going to be competing for attention on a tube site full of full length scenes. Good luck with sales.

Yes indeed all this "anti-piracy"work sounds like a big bullshit.
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01-22-2011, 11:01 AM

Originally posted by Robbie

Because it's never going to become the standard. Right now you've got some "name" companies who don't have the technological know how to protect their shit (exception is Top Bucks) who just don't want to deal with this anymore and have been told this will turn sales around for them.

Of course it's not even TOUCHING file-sharing or bit torrent or the THOUSANDS of tube sites out there who aren't going along with this.

The reality is...something is going to shake out legally here. The laws WILL change (not because of porn of course, but because of mainstream) and when they do...all this crap will be meaningless.

I predict within 2 to 5 years there will be a replacement for the outdated DMCA law AND international copyright treaties updated to reflect the internet age and the technologies therein.

The trick is to be smart enough and quick enough to survive until then.

I agree with you Robbie.

However, on the other hand... I always fear what will come next. Lord only knows when some laws get changed if they will leave some loop hole in place that will fuck things up even worse. One of those, "be careful what you wish for" things.
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01-22-2011, 11:06 AM

I don't think the next set of laws will necessarily leave a new loophole.
My fear is that they will instead wipe out ALL free porn. Which will then wipe out all of our advertising and all of my tgps and blogs.

And when and if that happens you can point the blame at the fucking THIEVES for bringing all of this down on us in the first place.

Just like when I see people who are SUPPOSED to be in our business complaining about the "poor innocent" surfers getting legal papers from attorneys for stealing shit.
And then they blame the hard working content producer for being "greedy"

How about blaming the REAL ones who are bringing this shit down on everybody? Manwin to the front of the line please.

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01-22-2011, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by Robbie

I don't think the next set of laws will necessarily leave a new loophole.
My fear is that they will instead wipe out ALL free porn. Which will then wipe out all of our advertising and all of my tgps and blogs.

And when and if that happens you can point the blame at the fucking THIEVES for bringing all of this down on us in the first place.

Just like when I see people who are SUPPOSED to be in our business complaining about the "poor innocent" surfers getting legal papers from attorneys for stealing shit.
And then they blame the hard working content producer for being "greedy"

How about blaming the REAL ones who are bringing this shit down on everybody? Manwin to the front of the line please.

I think I'd celebrate non-stop for a fucking week long partying if all free porn were banned. It'd be like 1998! We'd all be wiping our asses with $100 bills again. I'd have to convert a lot of my sites over just as you would but still if this could happen tomorrow you bet I'd be all for it.

What I worry about is this happening for U.S, webmasters as well as a couple other countries while at the same time leaving it open for the rest of the world to do business as usual. Including the pirate scumbags. That would be a disaster. Already we see a bit of this as people try to move outside of where the DMCA (as flawed as it is) can reach and I think that's just bullshit.

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01-22-2011, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by signupdamnit

I think I'd celebrate non-stop for a fucking week long partying if all free porn were banned. It'd be like 1998!

Keep in mind that in 1998 my then-business partner and I were making several million dollars a year in SALES to PAYSITES with our TGP's AL4A and Ampland.

So for it to be like 1998 again...you wouldn't want ALL free porn gone. Since 1996 I've made around 15 million dollars net using free porn sites to sell memberships.

Difference was we don't rip the entire members area, give it all away for free, and then sell dating/cams/penis pills and kill the business.

I think if ALL free porn is stopped it will not be like 1998 again. But I do agree that if it happens and it shuts down all piracy we will still be in far better shape than we are currently in.

I'd have to redesign my free sites for sure and on my affiliate program SoloSlutCash.Com we would have to design galleries and banners that had no nudity at all. It could be do-able....

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