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| View Poll Results: Why do so many adult webmasters post hardcore in free areas? | |||
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| They don't have a clue. | 
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| They are stupid fucks. | 
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| They can't get laid. | 
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| They are broke and think hardcore pics will make them rich. | 
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	34 | 43.59% | 
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				Why are so many adult webmasters stupid?
			 
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	Here is the question. Why do so many adult webmasters post hardcore in free areas? Hugs, Danielle  | 
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		 it's all due to that TGP Assistant. the devil's software!! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Porn makes them rich fast, so they dont go to college. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 They want their name in the papers and free gay sex? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 I can't say I meet one single stupid webmaster, 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Because they're all copying some other stupid webmaster.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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	Newbie signs up to sponsor believing he will be rich soon. Newbie does not have any money. He can't buy content. Newbie uses the free content. The Free content from the sponsor is hardcore. Newbie gets his galleries rejected everywhere because that free hardcore content has been overused Newbie buys hardcore content Newbie commits suicide and/or start submitting galleries with 100 hardcore pictures and one link to a sponsor that does not exist.  | 
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		 I tried promoting Super Sloppy Messy Gangbang Facial Sluts using pics of chicks in bikinis but it didn't work too well.   
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Why are so many webmasters stupid? Because so many people are stupid. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Why do so many webmasters give away free hardcore? Because they aren't smart enough to think past the short-term. (See above.) 
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		 I have max hardcore high-res pics on free sites. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Lots of newbie webmasters come in thinking like a surfer--not like a salesperson. Hence lots of hardcore in free areas and few sales. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Because 99.9% of the adult webmasters make more by posting hardcore on free sites. Sure if you want to look out for the whole industry then you should stop posting hardcore but if you put yourself #1 then it's just stupid if you don't know how to pitch softcore. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	It's the same shit with radio, it started as samples of songs and the samples became longer and longer and in the end they started giving away free music. The music industry survived radio and porn will to.  | 
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		 1) Most webamsters don't give a fuck about some "warning pages" or shit. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			that shit is only for paranoid tightasses. I'll put on fisting, hardcore, pissing, bdsm, double hardcore, pee in mouth , whatever anywhere everywhere. 
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		 All sponsors should not pay for webmaster referrals, so there would be no webmaster resources and for newbies it would be harder to get in the biz. Only intelligent or rich newbies could enter his biz. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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		 All the above!!!!!!!!!! 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 wildcard you ruined it i was hoping to get a nude pic of her... j/k...lmao 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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   yea the last thing i said was true though!
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		 If they don't know what they are doing, then more money to the ones who do.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			Have lists for sale and lots of mailer traffic. If interested, contact me via email [email protected] 
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		 Thanks everyone for your input. I see some great answers. Now how do we educate the NEW newbie that softcore makes more money in the long run? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Funny, I remember wayz backz whenz had one of those first little totally free sites and not even hardcore, just mild ass bikini shots and man oh man the traffic that thing got rocked and rolled. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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 Guys.. think like a chick and tease like a mofo. This might not work for every niche, but its the only way my niche works. I do not think I am alone. 
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		 Danielle, take a look at your site in 1024x768 - gets kinda broken up.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Got a story to relate on newbies. I'm in a position to review newbie sites before they submit them to link lists. One newbie gave me his first site and I nearly fell out of my chair. He had used all sponsor content. The content zip file had contained 90 pictures. So in his free site, he used ALL 90 pictures - including, of course, the hardcore that the sponsor so stupidly gives away. When I asked him why he did it, he told me that he read the terms of using the free pics and from the wording, it made it sound like he *had* to use *all* of the pics in the set. He actually was *trying* to make a good site and follow the rules set forth by the sponsor. I went on a rant about this on Serge's board a few days ago. If the sponsors didn't give away the hardcore, the webmaster would put a higher value on it. EVERYONE should pay to see hardcore, even the webmasters themselves. If the webmasters had to pay the content providers for sets with hardcore in them, you'd best believe they'd put more of a value on them. But since it's given to them, it's like the sponsor is saying "it's okay to give these out for free". It devalues the pictures, it devalues the sponsor's paysite... and then the sponsor has the gall to turn around and whine about how much harder they have to work and how conversions aren't what they used to be 4 years ago. Well no shit, sherlock! 4 years ago you weren't handing out money shots and telling the webmasters to go forth and display them! Hello?!?  | 
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