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01-13-2011, 11:56 AM

http://www.cnbc.com/id/41040391

This is a slide show from the AVN awards with quotes from various porn people from Joanna Angel to Bree Olson about what's trending in porn now.

Bree Olson mentioned something about doing scenes with 2 and a half men;)

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01-13-2011, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by Caligari

http://www.cnbc.com/id/41040391

This is a slide show from the AVN awards with quotes from various porn people from Joanna Angel to Bree Olson about what's trending in porn now.

Bree Olson mentioned something about doing scenes with 2 and a half men;)

Seems like there is a good deal of mainstream media attention on AEE this year, feels like more than years prior.

The CNBC slideshow in my mind just is another step in the direction of adult becoming more accepted by the mainstream. Not a huge step, but step none the less.

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01-13-2011, 12:16 PM

Somone owes Charlie Sheen a paycheck !
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01-13-2011, 12:22 PM

Tons of people are interested in porn. That won't change, ever.
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01-13-2011, 12:30 PM

AVN has always had a lot of mainstream traffic at their shows. I remember going one year and seeing Martina Warren signing autographs at a booth and I skipped the line and went to give her a hug and nearly got mauled by two very large black body guards. She just waved them off. As if I'm to stand in line to say hello to someone when I've gone skinny dipping with her in her pool at her house.

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01-13-2011, 12:33 PM

lol at the answers... 3d, meh...

It reminds me of the Simpsons when they go to the duff brewery. We got nothing.

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01-13-2011, 12:35 PM

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01-13-2011, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by Rochard

AVN has always had a lot of mainstream traffic at their shows. I remember going one year and seeing Martina Warren signing autographs at a booth and I skipped the line and went to give her a hug and nearly got mauled by two very large black body guards. She just waved them off. As if I'm to stand in line to say hello to someone when I've gone skinny dipping with her in her pool at her house.

she was probably just trying to protect herself from name droppers....

but, cool story bro...

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01-13-2011, 12:41 PM

I concur with Joanna Angel when she says:

"I think things that are becoming a lot more community oriented. The wall of the porn star is breaking down and I think we?re moving in a direction where there?s a lot more interaction between fans and stars."

That is why I have been busy developing a multi-party chat solution that will allow pornstars to host global QA sessions with their fans and earn revenue per minute on each incoming call

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01-13-2011, 12:50 PM

Originally posted by Caligari

http://www.cnbc.com/id/41040391

This is a slide show from the AVN awards with quotes from various porn people from Joanna Angel to Bree Olson about what's trending in porn now.

Bree Olson mentioned something about doing scenes with 2 and a half men;)

Lol, it always makes me laugh how clueless the mainstream is when it comes to the porn industry. They think the entire industry is comprised of sex toys and dvd sales.

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01-13-2011, 01:20 PM

One pornstar mentioned doing webisodes more, which is interesting.
i dont know if i've seen a site with webisodes for porn videos yet.

for the couples crowd i could see soap opera porn happening.
do it just like soap operas but get rid of the soap;)

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01-13-2011, 01:26 PM

Originally posted by ShellyCrash

Seems like there is a good deal of mainstream media attention on AEE this year, feels like more than years prior.

The CNBC slideshow in my mind just is another step in the direction of adult becoming more accepted by the mainstream. Not a huge step, but step none the less.

Pink Visual ended up being in three of the four articles with Allison being a "Power Broker."

PV was also on gizmodo.com and other great mainstream press sites. I think it actually has been a huge step that we have seen and I think that it's mainly due to the technology associated with adult.

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01-13-2011, 01:27 PM

Originally posted by emjay

I concur with Joanna Angel when she says:

"I think things that are becoming a lot more community oriented. The wall of the porn star is breaking down and I think we?re moving in a direction where there?s a lot more interaction between fans and stars."

That is why I have been busy developing a multi-party chat solution that will allow pornstars to host global QA sessions with their fans and earn revenue per minute on each incoming call

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01-13-2011, 01:30 PM

Originally posted by vsex

Or they can just log on to vsex.com and fuck their favorite pornstars! That's more fun then QA sessions

i completely agree with that statement!

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01-13-2011, 01:34 PM

Porn is the oldest trade since man walked the earth.
The next big thing is a service that allows people in these hard economic times to make money from their homes.

Cams... escorting and such...

adultwork.co.uk is a successful case in point... although their site looks crap.

Why spend money on models when you can empower people and take a slice of their earnings.
That's what makes sense in this economy right now.

And lets face it, Cams and escorting offer a very personal experience.
If you want a quick fap... then google is your friend.

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01-13-2011, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by kristin

Pink Visual ended up being in three of the four articles with Allison being a "Power Broker."

PV was also on gizmodo.com and other great mainstream press sites. I think it actually has been a huge step that we have seen and I think that it's mainly due to the technology associated with adult.

There was alot of Mainstream press that included mainly Vsex.com and Pink Visual. They were looking for something different and unique to write about and we gave it to them!

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01-13-2011, 03:28 PM

Originally posted by kristin

Pink Visual ended up being in three of the four articles with Allison being a "Power Broker."

PV was also on gizmodo.com and other great mainstream press sites. I think it actually has been a huge step that we have seen and I think that it's mainly due to the technology associated with adult.

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01-13-2011, 08:14 PM

I wish someone would start making orgies and reverse gangbangs again, like they did in the mid 2000's. That would be a nice trend.

3D, eh? Who gives a fuck? I'd rather see something hot in 2D at 320x240 with crappy compression about ten times more than some mediocre porn in 3D.

Desperate producers are grasping at the 3D gimmick, forgetting to make a good product.
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01-13-2011, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by bronco67

I wish someone would start making orgies and reverse gangbangs again, like they did in the mid 2000's. That would be a nice trend.

3D, eh? Who gives a fuck? I'd rather see something hot in 2D at 320x240 with crappy compression about ten times more than some mediocre porn in 3D.

Desperate producers are grasping at the 3D gimmick, forgetting to make a good product.

I agree. I have a lot of experience with orgies and would love to do a reverse gangbang site, with one guy fucking a bunch of hot girls if someone wants to fund that idea!
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01-14-2011, 01:40 AM

This person has stole my idea. LOL

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01-14-2011, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by bronco67

I wish someone would start making orgies and reverse gangbangs again, like they did in the mid 2000's. That would be a nice trend.

3D, eh? Who gives a fuck? I'd rather see something hot in 2D at 320x240 with crappy compression about ten times more than some mediocre porn in 3D.

Desperate producers are grasping at the 3D gimmick, forgetting to make a good product.

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I agree. I have a lot of experience with orgies and would love to do a reverse gangbang site, with one guy fucking a bunch of hot girls if someone wants to fund that idea!

A cheap 3D camera which will shoots 100s of scenes is a lot less money than getting 5 girls and 1 guy for 1 scene. What do you think members would prefer?

Also there's the situation of providing new content to affiliates.

But while people think adding 3-5 scenes a day that are exactly the same as the 1,000 scenes they already have good luck with getting the funding. The reason we never went down the custom route was simply financial. NO online business was willing to pay $1500 for 1 solo girl scene, they wanted 3-5 for that money.

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01-14-2011, 02:46 AM

Originally posted by Paul Markham

This person has stole my idea. LOL

When people give away per-recorded porn the only way is live.

For fuck's sake, Paul. A lot of what you have to say is interesting, usually wrong but still interesting, but it seems like you whine about this in every thread. Here I am, enjoying a nice peaceful thread, and then BAMMM - "When people give away per-recorded porn the only way is live".

Let it rest for once. Cinema Erotique has some excellent pre-recorded content. I doubt they'll make enough money to buy West Ham, but I'm sure they're doing fine and it's clear they're serious about the artistry of the craft. And by their doing so, they are helping the industry move forward much more so than is someone who is constantly whining on GFY.

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01-14-2011, 02:51 AM

Actually yes, I have to admit I've noticed that attention to porn has been increasing within the mainstream community over the past few years. Here and there I bump at articles and interviews of people associated with different areas of Internet business from ISPs to marketing services, mainly mainstream, and many of them bring up porn as a means of popularization of certain technologies amongst consumers and that it's porn what will dictate multimedia formats in the near future.

It's nice to see porn finally being recognized as real business.

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01-14-2011, 04:37 AM

Originally posted by jimmycooper

For fuck's sake, Paul. A lot of what you have to say is interesting, usually wrong but still interesting, but it seems like you whine about this in every thread. Here I am, enjoying a nice peaceful thread, and then BAMMM - "When people give away per-recorded porn the only way is live".

Let it rest for once. Cinema Erotique has some excellent pre-recorded content. I doubt they'll make enough money to buy West Ham, but I'm sure they're doing fine and it's clear they're serious about the artistry of the craft. And by their doing so, they are helping the industry move forward much more so than is someone who is constantly whining on GFY.

Only time will tell.

I'm sure a few sites are doing well by picking up others traffic, throwing more traffic by giving away free porn AND by having an excellent product. Unlike many I don't think of today or even the past, I reminisce a lot, when I'm planning business. I look down the line 2-3 years from now.

But if you look at what a lot of these people are saying they're saying LIVE is the way to go.

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01-14-2011, 05:20 AM

anyone doing porn webisodes like the pornstar mentioned?
i'd like to check that out.

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01-14-2011, 05:48 AM

Hollywood still won't let porn actors in SAG. Which is fine with porn producers because they won't have to pay residuals.
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01-14-2011, 05:58 AM

Originally posted by Paul Markham

A cheap 3D camera which will shoots 100s of scenes is a lot less money than getting 5 girls and 1 guy for 1 scene. What do you think members would prefer?

Also there's the situation of providing new content to affiliates.

But while people think adding 3-5 scenes a day that are exactly the same as the 1,000 scenes they already have good luck with getting the funding. The reason we never went down the custom route was simply financial. NO online business was willing to pay $1500 for 1 solo girl scene, they wanted 3-5 for that money.

Not sure I understand what you're saying....100 3d scenes is more preferable to a well done reverse gangbang scene with higher end girls?
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01-14-2011, 07:11 AM

Originally posted by bronco67

Not sure I understand what you're saying....100 3d scenes is more preferable to a well done reverse gangbang scene with higher end girls?

No it's not by members. But it is by sponsors. As bronco67 said 3D is being graped at by sponsors who can't afford to spend the money.

A reverse Gangbang scene with Higher end girls will cost money.

Girls = $5,000+
Boy = $500
Shooter = $500 (Getting a cheaper one isn't sensible, might be best with 2 shooters)
Location = $500+ (Unless the sponsor has one)

Plus make up and other expenses it's going to cost $7,000 and rising for 1 scene. A cheap 3D camera costs what and how many scenes can you get out of it?

Anabolic could afford the normal type, one girl and 5 guys, but looking at their site it seems they don't shoot much Gangbang scenes now. Evil Angel did a few reverse Gangbangs and they were hot. I've seen some cheap scenes shot in Russia but they were crap.

As for orgies, well a lot of features had them at the end of the film. 3-5 couples and a couple of shooters recording it. My very first porn scene was an orgy. The director saw I had a hard on (I was helping the crew at the time), asked if I wanted to join in and the rest was easy.

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01-14-2011, 09:24 AM

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