Real Gun Crime Stats

Collapse
X
Collapse
 
  • Page of 1
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
Previous template Next
  • Vendzilla
    Biker Gnome
    • Mar 2004
    • 23200
    #1

    Real Gun Crime Stats

    So you think guns are the main problem with crime? How about some government stats?

    http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=43

    In 2009 ?

    An offender was armed with a gun, knife, or other object used as a weapon in an estimated 22% of all incidents of violent crime.
    Offenders used firearms to commit 8% of violent crime incidents in 2009.
    Robberies (47%) were the most likely crime to involve an armed offender.
    Firearms (28%) were the most common weapons used in robberies.
    Most rapes and assaults did not involve the use of a weapon.
    From 1993-1997, of serious nonfatal violent victimization's, 28% were committed with a firearm, 4% were committed with a firearm and resulted in injury, and less than 1% resulted in gunshot wounds.


    8% of violent crime incidents?
    For 8%, I think we're doing pretty good!


    In the UK, the press caught the government lying about the stats about gun crimes
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...l-figures.html
    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
    think about that
    Tags: None
    • Lester Burnham
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2006
      • 540
      #2
      Useless to debate gun control in the U.S. I've officially given up. To many guns already out there, so may as well embrace it and win the arms race

        Comment

        • Seth Manson
          Please dont fuck animals
          • Jul 2010
          • 3988
          #3
          87% of stats are made up and not factual.

            Comment

            • mynameisjim
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2007
              • 2985
              #4
              There are 90 guns for every 100 people in America.

              Come on people!! Let's make it an even 100/100! Go buy some guns! Yemen is catching up with a promising 60 guns per 100 people. We may be at the bottom in terms of education, but when you are armed to the teeth, who is going to tell you you're wrong about anything? Fuck Yea!

              http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL2834893820070828
              Last edited by mynameisjim; 01-11-2011, 09:54 PM.
              jim (at) amateursconvert . com Amateurs Convert

                Comment

                • kane
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Aug 2001
                  • 20684
                  #5
                  Originally posted by mynameisjim
                  There are 90 guns for every 100 people in America.

                  Come on people!! Let's make it an even 100/100! Go buy some guns! Yemen is catching up with a promising 60 guns per 100 people. We may be at the bottom in terms of education, but when you are armed to the teeth, who is going to tell you you're wrong about anything? Fuck Yea!

                  http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL2834893820070828
                  That number is a little misleading though. Here is some stuff taken from a very good political site. He was writing about this recent shooting put up some numbers.

                  Here is the full articles.
                  http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...ontrol-debate/

                  This graph shows that only about 35% of American households actually have a gun.


                  What this means that most people don't have guns, but those who do have a lot of them.

                  I can give you a personal example. If I listed 10 friends that I know that four of them own guns. I personally own 1. Another friend of mine owns 2. But the other two each have about 10 guns each and are talking about buying more.

                  So you could easily say that out of these 10 people there are 23 guns or 2.3 guns per person when in reality 6 of them have nothing and the other two clearly have small penises.
                  Last edited by kane; 01-11-2011, 11:59 PM.

                    Comment

                    • Lester Burnham
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 540
                      #6
                      Originally posted by kane
                      This graph shows that only about 35% of American households actually have a gun.
                      Oh, ONLY 35% of households have guns? God, I feel so much safer now. Basically, there is a gun in one out of every three houses in my neighborhood. Great!!! Debate is over.

                        Comment

                        • kane
                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                          • Aug 2001
                          • 20684
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Lester Burnham
                          Oh, ONLY 35% of households have guns? God, I feel so much safer now. Basically, there is a gun in one out of every three houses in my neighborhood. Great!!! Debate is over.
                          As opposed to how the original article made it look, which is that there is a gun in 90% of households, yeah, it is big difference.

                            Comment

                            • seeandsee
                              Check SIG!
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 50945
                              #8
                              just ban fucking guns, get big jail time for possession and case closed
                              BUY MY SIG - 50$/Year

                              Contact here

                                Comment

                                • theking
                                  Nice Kitty
                                  • Sep 2002
                                  • 21053
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                  So you think guns are the main problem with crime? How about some government stats?

                                  http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=43

                                  In 2009 ?

                                  An offender was armed with a gun, knife, or other object used as a weapon in an estimated 22% of all incidents of violent crime.
                                  Offenders used firearms to commit 8% of violent crime incidents in 2009.
                                  Robberies (47%) were the most likely crime to involve an armed offender.
                                  Firearms (28%) were the most common weapons used in robberies.
                                  Most rapes and assaults did not involve the use of a weapon.
                                  From 1993-1997, of serious nonfatal violent victimization's, 28% were committed with a firearm, 4% were committed with a firearm and resulted in injury, and less than 1% resulted in gunshot wounds.


                                  8% of violent crime incidents?
                                  For 8%, I think we're doing pretty good!


                                  In the UK, the press caught the government lying about the stats about gun crimes
                                  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...l-figures.html
                                  One thing I do not see in there...is that less than 1% of so called "assault" rifles/weapons are used in the commission of a crime.
                                  When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

                                  FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...http://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

                                    Comment

                                    • Lester Burnham
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Aug 2006
                                      • 540
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by seeandsee
                                      just ban fucking guns, get big jail time for possession and case closed
                                      Civil war if that happens. Prohibition was a fiasco, but an all out repeal of the 2nd amendment would throw this country into chaos. I'd probably just build a bunker somewhere and wait it out lol.

                                        Comment

                                        • Vendzilla
                                          Biker Gnome
                                          • Mar 2004
                                          • 23200
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by theking
                                          One thing I do not see in there...is that less than 1% of so called "assault" rifles/weapons are used in the commission of a crime.
                                          Yeah, hard to hide one under your coat
                                          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                          think about that

                                            Comment

                                            • justfreemovies
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2004
                                              • 1150
                                              #12
                                              its not the gun, its the crazy fuck with the gun people are afraid of, wish u had the break down of how many of those were legally owned, i bet the numbers fall even more. if the gov makes it harder for responsible citizens to get guns, the criminals will still have them anyways not like they are gonna follow the law to commit a crime lol
                                              Signature views since 1/13/11
                                              If you can read this, your ad could be here. Sig for rent
                                              www.BlogMilfs.com Domain for sale Click for details

                                                Comment

                                                • BV
                                                  wtf
                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                  • 10914
                                                  #13

                                                    Comment

                                                    • pornguy
                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                      • 62912
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by seeandsee
                                                      just ban fucking guns, get big jail time for possession and case closed
                                                      Yeah. worked well in Mexico where I think 95% of all killings are with guns.
                                                      PornGuy skype me pornguy_epic

                                                      AmateurDough The Hottes Shemales online!
                                                      TChicks.com | Angeles Cid | Mariana Cordoba | MAILERS WELCOME!

                                                        Comment

                                                        • JC Maldini
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Dec 2008
                                                          • 490
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by pornguy
                                                          Yeah. worked well in Mexico where I think 95% of all killings are with guns.
                                                          Works great in Chicago too!!
                                                          JC Maldini
                                                          Business Development
                                                          ICQ: 223 643
                                                          Skype: jc_maldini

                                                            Comment

                                                            • Vendzilla
                                                              Biker Gnome
                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                              • 23200
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by BV
                                                              Love the Nuge, no repeat offenders, just dead offenders!

                                                              Liberals are against guns and keep Charlie Mansion Alive? Why? If paroled, would you live next door to him?
                                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                              think about that

                                                                Comment

                                                                • PR_Glen
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Oct 2006
                                                                  • 9058
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                  Love the Nuge, no repeat offenders, just dead offenders!

                                                                  Liberals are against guns and keep Charlie Mansion Alive? Why? If paroled, would you live next door to him?
                                                                  both the 'nuge's' examples and yours are ludicrous and unrealistic... He actually suggested that that mother driving her daughter to soccer practice should have been armed??? What a fucking lunatic... Incidents like that are about as common as people getting killed by meteorites so that one is out the window...

                                                                  Manson? he's not getting out, not ever, how is that a liberal issue?

                                                                  How about this instead.. You believe you should have the right to own a fire arm and have the ability to use it when necessary and that nobody should take that right away from you. I can agree with that.. makes sense to me.. doesn't sound like a crazy person with impossible scenarios... doesn't sound like paranoia..
                                                                  webmaster at pimproll dot com

                                                                    Comment

                                                                    • ottopottomouse
                                                                      She is ugly, bad luck.
                                                                      • Jan 2010
                                                                      • 13177
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by Seth Manson
                                                                      87% of stats are made up and not factual.
                                                                      ↑ see post ↑
                                                                      13101

                                                                        Comment

                                                                        • Vendzilla
                                                                          Biker Gnome
                                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                                          • 23200
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by PR_Glen
                                                                          both the 'nuge's' examples and yours are ludicrous and unrealistic... He actually suggested that that mother driving her daughter to soccer practice should have been armed??? What a fucking lunatic... Incidents like that are about as common as people getting killed by meteorites so that one is out the window...

                                                                          Manson? he's not getting out, not ever, how is that a liberal issue?

                                                                          How about this instead.. You believe you should have the right to own a fire arm and have the ability to use it when necessary and that nobody should take that right away from you. I can agree with that.. makes sense to me.. doesn't sound like a crazy person with impossible scenarios... doesn't sound like paranoia..
                                                                          The judge hat sentenced Manson was a liberal, should have got the death penalty. He can't be turned back into society.

                                                                          As for the soccer mom, why not? My mom has a carry permit.

                                                                          http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=480
                                                                          According to FBI data, however, each year about 26 homicides by strangers involved automobile theft.
                                                                          Odds Of Your House Being Hit By A Meteor - 182138880000000 To 1
                                                                          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                                          think about that

                                                                            Comment

                                                                            • Quentin
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Dec 2002
                                                                              • 1280
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                              The judge hat sentenced Manson was a liberal, should have got the death penalty.
                                                                              Um.... wrong.

                                                                              A few facts for you about Manson's sentencing:

                                                                              * The judge who sentenced Manson was Judge Charles Older, and he was not what most people would term a "liberal," IMO. He was appointed to the bench by Ronald Reagan in 1967; that fact alone doesn't make him a "conservative" either, of course.... perhaps Reagan just thought Older was a good jurist who deserved a spot on the L.A. Superior Court bench, and it wasn't about his politics? Always a possibility.

                                                                              * Contrary to your assertion, Judge Older DID sentence Manson (and the rest of his co-defendants) to death, in April of 1971

                                                                              * The California Supreme Court -- NOT an individual judge -- effectively forestalled the possibility of the death penalty being applied in Manson's case by way of its decision in California v. Anderson; the court's ruling in Anderson outlawed the death penalty in California, making it rather difficult for the state to legally carry out the death sentence against Manson and his co-defendants.

                                                                              None of this has anything to do with guns/gun crime, of course... just thought I'd straighten the factual record of Manson's sentencing out a bit here. ;-)
                                                                              Q. Boyer

                                                                                Comment

                                                                                • cwd
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Feb 2006
                                                                                  • 1955
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  I think we need to go back to the old west days where you carried your gun in your holster so everyone knew what you were packing and fights could be settled with a draw. Maybe we could bring back public hangings too.

                                                                                    Comment

                                                                                    • DEA - banned for life
                                                                                      V.I.P.
                                                                                      • Nov 2004
                                                                                      • 7886
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      in the end.. those of us with guns will be safer than those of us without them.

                                                                                        Comment

                                                                                        • buzzard
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                          • 1276
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by DEA
                                                                                          in the end.. those of us with guns will be safer than those of us without them.
                                                                                          You said it.
                                                                                          Just suggesting... stop with the TV education and quit seeing yourselves as gun victims. Get a clue about guns guys and gals... There's not enough guns.
                                                                                          Just suggesting

                                                                                            Comment

                                                                                            • Rochard
                                                                                              Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                                                                              • Dec 2001
                                                                                              • 75733
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              There is no realistic background check for potential (and current) gun owners. Oh, they check their criminal record, but no their medical record. No one checks to see if there is any history of depression, if they are on any medication, or anything.

                                                                                              This kid in Arizona believed he was living in a daydream. Somewhere along the line this should have been a major issue and prevented him from owning a firearm. I mean, seriously, he's keeping fucking day dream journals.

                                                                                              My best friend has "water on the brain", and a dozen brain operations. Vendzilla, you've met my friend John. He's forty-six now, is physically handicapped, mentally handicapped (he operates as a sixteen year old), and has doctor prescribed heroin lollipops to deal with the pain of his "scar tissue" in his head. (I'm not making this up.) He is legally prescribed heroin, yet no one questioned him about this when he purchased his AR15 six months ago.

                                                                                              I honestly believe that 99% of gun owners are very responsible. It's that one percent that slips though. And all of those people with hand guns.... Where they fuck are they when this shit goes down?
                                                                                              Herschel Savage
                                                                                              Brooklyn, NY

                                                                                                Comment

                                                                                                • SmokeyTheBear
                                                                                                  ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                                                                  • Jun 2004
                                                                                                  • 28609
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  hatisblack at yahoo.com

                                                                                                    Comment

                                                                                                    • bl4h
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Jul 2006
                                                                                                      • 1282
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by Lester Burnham
                                                                                                      Oh, ONLY 35% of households have guns? God, I feel so much safer now. Basically, there is a gun in one out of every three houses in my neighborhood. Great!!! Debate is over.
                                                                                                      were you born yesterday?

                                                                                                        Comment

                                                                                                        • TCLGirls
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • Feb 2010
                                                                                                          • 3068
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                                                          The judge hat sentenced Manson was a liberal, should have got the death penalty. He can't be turned back into society.

                                                                                                          You should read up on basic history before making false statements like that. Even I know what you said is false and I wasn't even alive yet during the Manson trial.

                                                                                                            Comment

                                                                                                            • theking
                                                                                                              Nice Kitty
                                                                                                              • Sep 2002
                                                                                                              • 21053
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                              There is no realistic background check for potential (and current) gun owners. Oh, they check their criminal record, but no their medical record. No one checks to see if there is any history of depression, if they are on any medication, or anything.

                                                                                                              This kid in Arizona believed he was living in a daydream. Somewhere along the line this should have been a major issue and prevented him from owning a firearm. I mean, seriously, he's keeping fucking day dream journals.

                                                                                                              My best friend has "water on the brain", and a dozen brain operations. Vendzilla, you've met my friend John. He's forty-six now, is physically handicapped, mentally handicapped (he operates as a sixteen year old), and has doctor prescribed heroin lollipops to deal with the pain of his "scar tissue" in his head. (I'm not making this up.) He is legally prescribed heroin, yet no one questioned him about this when he purchased his AR15 six months ago.

                                                                                                              I honestly believe that 99% of gun owners are very responsible. It's that one percent that slips though. And all of those people with hand guns.... Where they fuck are they when this shit goes down?
                                                                                                              Unless I am mistaken there is a check to see if you have been in a mental institution...but unless I am mistaken these records only go back seven years. As for the shooter he apparently had never been treated for mental illness let alone having been institutionalized.

                                                                                                              In his case it is my understanding that the college and the campus police did not communicate with the city police or the Sheriff's office...their concerns about this guy...and agency to agency communication should be mandatory. Though I doubt this would have prevented the guy from purchasing a gun or the shooting.
                                                                                                              Last edited by theking; 01-15-2011, 03:52 AM.
                                                                                                              When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!

                                                                                                              FOR THE LYING LOWLIFE POSTING AS PATHFINDER...http://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-pr...athfinder.html

                                                                                                                Comment

                                                                                                                Previous template Next
                                                                                                                Working...