The video doesn't tell everything, but the witnesses do.... (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...nquest13m.html)

Today the prosecutor asked a witness [Gill] if the dead homeless guy "do anything that you perceived as threatening?"

"No," Gill said.

Another witness said about the cop, ""I was shocked and surprised. He seemed more aggressive than I was expecting,"

With all that said, I won't be surprised if the cop walks; that's what happens in this country. If he does, we'll have a bunch of native americans rioting in the street (I just hope they don't close the casinos).

cop shot the guy 5 times. failure to obey a command doesn't warrant the cop unloading his gun on the guy.

I wonder why he had a gun instead of a taser. Don't they all carry tasers now?

police are corrupt murderous cowboys. Shoot to kill first, fuck the questions.

Time for WAR against the cops , but as i said in other threads all Americans PUSSIES!

That is good news as the homeless woodcarver population has been getting way out of control lately. :upsidedow

The victim was deaf !!! just sayin !!

i think the chick who was walkong by is the one who called out the cop for shooting the guy when he wasnt doing anythiing and couldnt hear what the cop was saying...judging by her leisure walk she obviously didnt even relize there was a problem and at first kept walking like nothing was going on..

i bet that cop says the guy turned around and went towards him with the knife..maybe loses his job..gets no jail time or probation and goes into private security

Yes and you canadian homos living in 2 million dollar apartments with your boytoys are very macho. D'oh

Busted with the Fake Nick :thumbsup

I can assure you I am NOT Canadian A

Crossing the street on a sunny day --and a few seconds later shot 5 times at point blank range by some douche bag who barely graduated from high school and committed his violence with the full power of the state behind him and under the Color of Law.

Disgusting.

This may be old news but it's the first I'm hearing of it so I appreciate the post.

Cop deserves to lose his job and spend some time behind bars. Truly a sad story. Another example of a cop on a power trip.

Cops are trained to fire multiple rounds...usually a minimum of three rounds...and in some academies they are trained to keep firing until their target goes down which often means the target will receive many hits.

if you lived in seattle or vancouver it wouldn't be that suprising. I see it a few times a year , and i know a few areas downtown you would almost always see a native guy carving right on the sidewalk

usually the idea is to use force to stop a threat until the threat no longer exists, the problem is interpretation of what is a threat varies from person to person , situation to situation.

Hi there Yes he was deaf.......and he was shot 4 times in the back

I found this quote to be interesting :


When I first looked at the video I had no knowledge of this case, but I immediately
thought the cop seemed pissed because the guy "J-walked" right in front of the cop
car. So I looked closer at the video and the traffic light is red and usually that
means the guy could cross the street without j-walking.

That hit me right away, so to see the cop admit that is like WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess I thought that right away because that happened to me in Los Angeles.
I was walking and didn't even see a police car. I just didn't notice it.

The main thing the cops said to me when they stopped me was :
"you saw us there and still you have the balls to j-walk? :mad:".

Of course they didn't believe I didn't see them and therefore talked major shit to me.
One cop offered to rip my balls off. :1orglaugh

It wasn't about j-walking to the cops; it was about them perceiving me to be
defiant or acting above the law...(fill in typical pompous ass cop cliches here )...etc...

They were wrong about me "disrespecting" them, but they will never know it.

They made up their minds before they got out of the car and that was all it was
going to be.

Looks like that happened in this case for sure.

The cop in this case got mad because the Native guy walked right by him and didn't
give a shit that the cop was there. And the native guy should have done just that in
reality. I mean, why notice a police car and change your behavior if you are not doing
anything illegal??

Do you have links to this info?

I haven't heard this before and would like to know more.

"keep firing until the target goes down"...well, I pity the guy robbing the meat packing
house when the first bullet pushes him onto a meat hook so he can't fall down.

:1orglaugh

Please stop trying to explain real life to some hick ass back wooded fool who thinks
the rest of the world lives on a farm.

:1orglaugh

from the audio recording after the shooting , explaining himself to supervisor

"he was carving up that board with it open, i approached him and uhh instructed him multiple times and he wouldn't do it"

3:44 of the liveleak video

a little after that another officer asks him "did he do anything else " , replied by "negative"



its one thing to shoot a guy because you feel he is/could be a threat , it's another to shoot a guy you KNOW is using his knife to carve wood simply because he doesn't instantly comply.

IVE HAD ENOUGH OF YOU MAKING SENSE IN THIS THREAD!

There will be no more "sense" from you mister! It is clear cops are innocent in every situation including this one. I mean HEY MAN they have stressful jobs. Geeze man it is not like everyone has a stressful jobs.

Why dont you be more understanding! Maybe if he shot a good looking 24 yo white chick carving wood we should care. But this guy was homeless. HE IS OBVIOUSLY A THREAT AND NEEDS TO BE SHOT IN THE BACK. REASONS DO NOT MATTER! COPS "SHOOT TO KILL! DIDNT YOU KNOW THAT! GEEZE.

He is deaf? SO WHAT! the cop gave him at least 5 seconds to respond before opening fire on him. That is MORE than enough time for an innocent person to react and "disarm" even though they are not "armed".

geeze ive had ENOUGH OF YOU!

This guy really makes the SPD look bad.

oh, then this cop deserves an award for a job well-done.

:upsidedow

Except for the fact that his own department has ruled that it was an unjustified shooting. I suspect that he will be tried and convicted of manslaughter.

Remember kids... the police are clearly your friends. :1orglaugh