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  • wehateporn
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    • Apr 2007
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    #1

    Your Sales and the Lunar Cycle

    Anyone else noticed a pattern showing their sales are linked to the lunar cycle?

    Reason I first picked up on it was I noticed that every day I was about to have an amazing day of sale the wife would completely lose her temper. Then it made me think back to an article I read about the menstrual cycle and the lunar cycle being the same length, this is because before there was street lighting the best time for mating was with moonlight present (also it was more difficult to sleep when there was a lot of moonlight).

    It's mainly guys in the Northern Hemisphere who sign up to sites, so I'm guessing that either their bodies also pick up on the lunar cycle to some extent or that the female pheromones being given off in offices/shops/universities etc all make the guy more likely to sign up to a site.
  • fatfoo
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    • Mar 2003
    • 27763

    #2
    Your sales are not linked to the lunar cycle. However, the lunar cycle could be linked to tides of water on earth.
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    • Domain Diva
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      • Oct 2007
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      #3
      thats serious overthinking.....

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      • seeandsee
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        • Mar 2006
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        #4
        your sales are based on many factors and not lunar cycle
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        • heymatty
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          • Oct 2001
          • 2188

          #5
          Quite a few traders use metonic cycles to give them clues. So you are not a million miles away

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          • signupdamnit
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            • Aug 2007
            • 6697

            #6
            You wouldn't happen to have CCBill as your primary sponsor or processor would you? I cannot believe how the same monthly pattern keeps repeating itself. Yet it all evens out at the end of the month.

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            • wehateporn
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              #7
              Originally posted by signupdamnit
              You wouldn't happen to have CCBill as your primary sponsor or processor would you? I cannot believe how the same monthly pattern keeps repeating itself. Yet it all evens out at the end of the month.
              Yep, that's the one! Though I've noticed that I can predict an amazing couple of day's CCBill sales if the wife has got absolutely insane at me over nothing, she does that around once per month

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              • BFT3K
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                • Dec 2005
                • 10764

                #8
                This is a pretty loony cycle right here...

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                • Agent 488
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                  • Feb 2006
                  • 22511

                  #9
                  http://zonecours.hec.ca/documents/E2...lunarcycle.pdf

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                  • epitome
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                    • Jun 2009
                    • 12156

                    #10
                    I do not follow any of that stuff to even begin to speculate, but if true, here is the theory behind it, I guess:

                    Men across the world, just like you, become frustrated with their wives (or vice versa) on the same days ... and they whip out the credit card when they won't be getting the real thing.

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                    • Shey
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                      • Aug 2005
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                      #11
                      You mean wives get bitchy, guys get horny but don't get any and they are more likely to jerk off to online porn? Might be something to it...
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                      • wehateporn
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                        #12
                        Epitome and Shey - I couldn't have explained better

                        If this is the case then webmasters should be tracking the lunar cycle and increasing advertising/traffic during the peak days. It would also explain why my peak CCBill sales have moved to a different time of the month as the lunar cycle is 29.5 days

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                        • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
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                          • Jul 2006
                          • 20368

                          #13
                          sales are directly affected by celestial occurrences. dropping porn sales, 2012, huh? huh? ya, that's what i thought...

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                          • Decadawn
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                            • Feb 2002
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                            #14
                            I totally agree that it affects sales... Ive been thinking about that for a while.. Those who say it doesn't affect it at all probably aren't stats freaks like us.

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                            • wehateporn
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Decadawn
                              I totally agree that it affects sales... Ive been thinking about that for a while.. Those who say it doesn't affect it at all probably aren't stats freaks like us.
                              Yep, I'm one of those stats freaks too, obsessed with them, even studied them to a high level. I really need to limit how often I log into CCBill though

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                              • CaptainHowdy
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                                • Dec 2004
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                                #16
                                You should fast during sponsor promos as well...

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                                • SwirlsGirl
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                                  • Feb 2006
                                  • 2067

                                  #17
                                  I have also pondered the connection, but would also like to know if the lunar cycle effects ccbill also, 3 sales in 10 minutes in the morning then nothing for rest of the day. like the switch was thrown as soon as sales started rolling in

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                                  • Dodododa
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                                    • Oct 2010
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                                    #18
                                    The wives getting bitchy might have something to do with men turning to porn.

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                                    • PR_Glen
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                                      • Oct 2006
                                      • 9058

                                      #19
                                      lunar cycles have affected every living thing on this planet since the beginning, why would it be any different in this case?

                                      Not really an easy way to capitalize on info like this in our industry though... interesting concept none the less.
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                                      • Paul Markham
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                                        • Jun 2001
                                        • 52942

                                        #20
                                        Eva never gets bitchy. Ans sales are up and down all the time. LOL

                                        When you think you've heard every excuse possible someone surprises you and comes up with a new one.



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                                        • wehateporn
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                          When you think you've heard every excuse possible someone surprises you and comes up with a new one.
                                          excuse? This is not an excuse, in fact it is a rather cunning plan! I was going to put a full moon as the background of my site
                                          Last edited by wehateporn; 01-10-2011, 06:37 AM.

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                                          • jonnydoe
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                                            #22
                                            I think there is truth to it. I know my ex always got horny with the full moon and you cannot deny that people act differently.
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                                            • stonehammer
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                                              • Feb 2008
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by wehateporn
                                              excuse? This is not an excuse, in fact it is a rather cunning plan! I was going to put a full moon as the background of my site


                                              maybe ill go around looking for a full moon background too

                                              but i agree with you bro, i think the full moon does make man more horny
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                                              • Stephen
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                                                • Feb 2003
                                                • 1771

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Decadawn
                                                I totally agree that it affects sales... Ive been thinking about that for a while.. Those who say it doesn't affect it at all probably aren't stats freaks like us.
                                                absolutely -- and at this point in the game, these ARE factors to look at

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                                                • signupdamnit
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                  Epitome and Shey - I couldn't have explained better

                                                  If this is the case then webmasters should be tracking the lunar cycle and increasing advertising/traffic during the peak days. It would also explain why my peak CCBill sales have moved to a different time of the month as the lunar cycle is 29.5 days
                                                  Could be helpful: http://moonphases.info/full_moon_calendar_dates.html

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                                                  • pornguy
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                                                    #26
                                                    My wife is trading in her Menstrual cycle for a Honda.
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                                                    • wehateporn
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                      Thanks for that! For the last month I've been telling people on forums "wait until the 21st comes, sales will come to life"

                                                      Then I check your chart for the full moons

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                                                      • wehateporn
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by stonehammer


                                                        maybe ill go around looking for a full moon background too

                                                        but i agree with you bro, i think the full moon does make man more horny
                                                        at first I was joking stonehammer but now I'm thinking I might put a full moon at the top corner of the site or perhaps have it following the page as the surfer scrolls

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                                                        • wehateporn
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Stephen
                                                          absolutely -- and at this point in the game, these ARE factors to look at
                                                          Probably should have kept it to myself, but I'm not like that, perhaps it could give a big boost to the industry if we're all pushing towards the surfers hardest when they are at their most vulnerable

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                                                          • SwirlsGirl
                                                            So Fucking Banned
                                                            • Feb 2006
                                                            • 2067

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by signupdamnit
                                                            You wouldn't happen to have CCBill as your primary sponsor or processor would you? I cannot believe how the same monthly pattern keeps repeating itself. Yet it all evens out at the end of the month.
                                                            I wish someone would seriously ponder as I have the possibility that our stats are being manipulated.

                                                            Not sure what else it takes to have the rest of you astute stats studiers ponder the possibility?

                                                            I have an on record admission that stats are not 100% reliable and it is a long time problem that has no remedy to this day.

                                                            Yes thats an insider on record admitting what many of us have already suspected but never been able to prove.

                                                            It drives me insane knowing this, and knowing that some of the rest of you have suspicions but for what ever reason refuse to touch it with a ten foot pole.

                                                            THINK ABOUT IT...none of us are present to collect funds from our customers. We have to wait, and hope and trust that our sales and stats reporting and data is secure and forwarded to us BY THOSE WHO WE PAY 15%-20% of OUR PRECIOUS blood sweat and tears. If you ask me its another ridiculous tax.

                                                            In this day of deception, crooks, thieves, and bankers, how can we so gullibly trust others to collect our funds in our absence and not ever demand or formulate some form of oversight or accountability.

                                                            I will keep dreaming about my adult colleagues coming together and holding processing companies to task. Trust if one company is doing it, and getting away with it, then they all are regardless of what is being said by well paid public relations specialists, and sales and account reps.

                                                            All I would need is 30 minutes to place in your mind some very very compelling reasons to suspect we are being screwed

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                                                            WHY GET A MEMBERSHIP WHEN YOU CAN JERK OFF WHILE ON A JOIN PAGE?

                                                            IF TUBES ARE KILLING OUR INDUSTRY.... WHY ARE WE STILL SEEING LARGE NUMBERS OF SURFERS TO OUR JOIN PAGES?????????????????????????????

                                                            WHO SURFS JOIN PAGES AND THEN STAYS ON THE JOIN PAGE FOR 35 OR 40 MINUTES WITHOUT HAVING A SERIOUS INTEREST IN JOINING....

                                                            YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED WE ALL AREN'T AS DUMB AS YOU WOULD HOPE

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                                                            • TheDoc
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                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 13827

                                                              #31
                                                              Sales always come to life around xmas, it's called computers, smart phones, and portable electronics. And... xmas isn't just on the 25th.

                                                              It's very easy to plot the cycle of the moon and query the stats against it. No sales pattern, growth, up or down happens based on the phases of the moon. Unless it's full moon or no moons during the Super Bowl, during the World Cup or during the Olympics - and that's why sales suck so bad.

                                                              What DOES change sales cycles is what day the 31st and 16th are on. If it's a Monday, sales suck that week, but 2 weeks later they will be good. If it's a Friday, this weekend will be strong and next will suck. Various payday patterns and long weekends can greatly change sales patterns.
                                                              Last edited by TheDoc; 01-10-2011, 05:16 PM.
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                                                              • stonehammer
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                at first I was joking stonehammer but now I'm thinking I might put a full moon at the top corner of the site or perhaps have it following the page as the surfer scrolls
                                                                for me i will wait till the next full moon then take a photo of it
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                                                                • Why
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                                                                  • Mar 2003
                                                                  • 7230

                                                                  #33
                                                                  the logic is sound, as the moon effects many things... hospitals report more "strange" things on full moons, as do police departments. to think it would effect peoples horniness, etc, or to think their wifes hormones changes throughout the month would effect porn buying habits is not off base whatsoever.

                                                                  and dont mind the doc, he just likes to play oracle and then disagree with ideas he didnt come up with, he's old school like that. ;)
                                                                  Last edited by Why; 07-28-2011, 05:42 PM.

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                                                                  • 96ukssob
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                                                                    • Mar 2003
                                                                    • 12991

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Why
                                                                    the logic is sound, as the moon effects many things... hospitals report more "strange" things on full moons, as do police departments. to think it would effect peoples horniness, etc, or to think their wifes hormones changes throughout the month is not off base whatsoever.

                                                                    and dont mind the doc, he just likes to play oracle and then disagree with ideas he didnt come up with.
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                                                                    • TheDoc
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                                                                      • Jul 2001
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Why
                                                                      and dont mind the doc, he just likes to play oracle and then disagree with ideas he didnt come up with, he's old school like that. ;)
                                                                      Yeah, just think... all those corps, billions in research.... and gfy figured out the mystery to more sales.

                                                                      Are we going to start seeing lunar cycle or full moon phase bonus days in porn now?

                                                                      At that, why don't stores like walmart, have sales based around the cycles? They're really missing out, they should totally read gfy and stay up on this stuff.
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                                                                      • wehateporn
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                        Yeah, just think... all those corps, billions in research.... and gfy figured out the mystery to more sales.

                                                                        Are we going to start seeing lunar cycle or full moon phase bonus days in porn now?

                                                                        At that, why don't stores like walmart, have sales based around the cycles? They're really missing out, they should totally read gfy and stay up on this stuff.
                                                                        It's only sex related sales that were being discussed, so it's not relevant to Walmart and the big Crops.

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                                                                        • wehateporn
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Why
                                                                          the logic is sound, as the moon effects many things... hospitals report more "strange" things on full moons, as do police departments. to think it would effect peoples horniness, etc, or to think their wifes hormones changes throughout the month would effect porn buying habits is not off base whatsoever.

                                                                          and dont mind the doc, he just likes to play oracle and then disagree with ideas he didnt come up with, he's old school like that. ;)
                                                                          Agreed Why, the logic fits in for the theory side , but now it needs to be put to the test on the stats side. I haven't been comparing my stats to the lunar cycle for quite a while now, so I'll need to see if they still link in with it

                                                                          Last time I discussed with SignUpDamnIt his stats were peaking at the same time of the month as mine, which at that point was close to the full moon
                                                                          Last edited by wehateporn; 07-29-2011, 01:50 AM.

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                                                                          • TheDoc
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                            It's only sex related sales that were being discussed, so it's not relevant to Walmart and the big Crops.
                                                                            Oh yeah, duh, of course it would only effect porn sales, that's totally logical.


                                                                            Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                            Agreed Why, the logic fits in for the theory side , but now it needs to be put to the test on the stats side. I haven't been comparing my stats to the lunar cycle for quite a while now, so I'll need to see if they still link in with it
                                                                            Here, maybe this will save you some time: http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/moon.html

                                                                            Good luck with your theory.
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                                                                            • marlboroack
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              I thought the same once

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                                                                              • wehateporn
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                Oh yeah, duh, of course it would only effect porn sales, that's totally logical.
                                                                                You skimmed through the original post too quickly or perhaps only read the title

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                                                                                • wehateporn
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by marlboroack
                                                                                  I thought the same once
                                                                                  I'm not the first to consider this, most people will keep things like this to themselves as then it can give them an advantage i.e. they know when to maximize their ad spending

                                                                                  We have to be careful when studying the sales statistics, as the lunar cycle is only one factor of many that has to be taken into account. They require careful analysis
                                                                                  Last edited by wehateporn; 07-29-2011, 05:10 AM.

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                                                                                  • TheDoc
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                                    You skimmed through the original post too quickly or perhaps only read the title
                                                                                    What does this mean? Are you saying this post is clearly about sex sales, when people are talking about women being bitches as well?

                                                                                    Stop being so lame.
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                                                                                    • wehateporn
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                      What does this mean? Are you saying this post is clearly about sex sales, when people are talking about women being bitches as well?

                                                                                      Stop being so lame.
                                                                                      Here's part my original post, perhaps others believe that the lunar cycle is also linked to other types sales, whereas my post and thoughts were only relating them to sex-related sales

                                                                                      -------------------------------
                                                                                      I read about the menstrual cycle and the lunar cycle being the same length, this is because before there was street lighting the best time for mating was with moonlight present (also it was more difficult to sleep when there was a lot of moonlight).

                                                                                      It's mainly guys in the Northern Hemisphere who sign up to sites, so I'm guessing that either their bodies also pick up on the lunar cycle to some extent or that the female pheromones being given off in offices/shops/universities etc all make the guy more likely to sign up to a site.
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                                                                                      • TheDoc
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                                        Here's part my original post, perhaps others believe that the lunar cycle is also linked to other types sales, whereas my post and thoughts were only relating them to sex-related sales

                                                                                        -------------------------------
                                                                                        I read about the menstrual cycle and the lunar cycle being the same length, this is because before there was street lighting the best time for mating was with moonlight present (also it was more difficult to sleep when there was a lot of moonlight).

                                                                                        It's mainly guys in the Northern Hemisphere who sign up to sites, so I'm guessing that either their bodies also pick up on the lunar cycle to some extent or that the female pheromones being given off in offices/shops/universities etc all make the guy more likely to sign up to a site.
                                                                                        ---------------------------------
                                                                                        Yeah, I don't really care what your point is... I can twist, change, talk about it from any angle, I like.

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                                                                                        • TheDoc
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Ever seen an asshole on a full moon blow a thread out?
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                                                                                          • Horny Joe
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            First we blame the tubes, now the moon? :D
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                                                                                            • wehateporn
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                              Yeah, I don't really care what your point is... I can twist, change, talk about it from any angle, I like.

                                                                                              Don't like it, put me on ignore, otherwise, piss off.

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                                                                                              • TheDoc
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Oh wow, the big guns... a picture! That totally backs up your, theory, with the hands and all... is that moon hair? This is sounding more plausible every second now.
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                                                                                                • wehateporn
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by TheDoc
                                                                                                  Oh wow, the big guns... a picture! That totally backs up your, theory, with the hands and all... is that moon hair? This is sounding more plausible every second now.
                                                                                                  I've moved on from that TheDoc, I'm trying to get you to calm down; your defence mechanisms have moved into overdrive
                                                                                                  Last edited by wehateporn; 07-29-2011, 05:34 AM.

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                                                                                                  • TheDoc
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by wehateporn
                                                                                                    I've moved on from that TheDoc, I'm trying to get you to calm down; your defence mechanisms have moved into overdrive
                                                                                                    I'm as calm as I can get... and what do I have to be in defense mode over?

                                                                                                    You're confused... I find it enjoyable to be an asshole.
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