Noah's flood relates to the Black Sea going from being a like into becoming a sea. It was due to the melting of the ice after one of the Ice Ages. That's why the flood story is prevalent around the world. The hard truth about the Ark is it wouldn't of been sea worthy and if the size described in the Bible would of only of housed the KNOWN animals of the Middle East and Africa, it wasn't big enough to house all the animals in the world in that time.

Then evolution. It's been proven beyond any shadow of doubt dinosaurs ruled the Earth for longer than Man has. For the Creation to be right what explains all the fossils being found of extinct species throughout the millions of years of evolution? Didn't they make it onto the Ark?

If that's the explanation then there wouldn't of been standing room for Man on the Earth prior to the Flood.

Then Adam and Eve, it's an old pagan myth. But who cares it's so flawed as to be less believable than a Fairy Story. Adam and Eve begot Cain and Able, then Cain and Able got married?????

To who? To more of the mythical god's creations?

Then Cain killed Able and got the Mark of God to tell the other tribes that he was marked by God and not to be harmed. What other tribes? The bible doesn't explain any of that.

It's all Fairy Stories.

In the 4th Century a pagan decided what was going to be in the New Testament and what was not. He set up a committee he led and ruled. He made the reading of many Gospels supposed written by the actual disciples of Jesus, one from Jesus's Brother James. And another for Mary Magdalene. To read them was heresy, punishable by death.

There is more hard evidence of the existence of Troy than there is of Jesus.

read Gen 1 & 2 again, speaks of god createing 2 types of people, the 1st people was people without souls who were here 1st , then he makes adam and eve which had souls

Then read Gen 6 , tells of the 2 different types of people having sex and having children that were evil , thats why god sent the flood .

i wouldnt listen to anybody who says the bible is false and none of it makes sense, thats the blind leading the blind, read it for yourself :2 cents:

What a bunch of vulgar atheists you guys are...

there is a verse in the bible that talks about beast that was in the old days with a tale the size of a tree trunk, sure seems like dinosours to me . also the asains believe in dragons, always have, maybe those dragons they speak of were the dinosours. they always drew them with feathers and stuff, and now science is telling us that the dinosours were large birds that some could not fly

its funny how BLIND the ones who call themselves bright are :2 cents: have you blockhead ever visited the comodos? geez, YOU are the best example why I HATE RELIGIOUS ppl :warning

you hate religious people because your a scared piece of shit, just as i was before i started to read the bible. it really is a good book, it will make you unscared of death :)

and that's the whole gist of religion for millions - just like little children who are scared of the dark, Mommy comes in their bedroom and reads them a fairy tale and turns a night light on.

that's the benign side of religion, it's harmless and meant for simpletons like you.

the other side is the one that has inspired more bloodshed, death and inhumanity than anything else in the history of mankind.

oh my godddddddd! I thought I had read it all on GFY. This one is a classic!

Us webmasters are a smarter breed of people with at 2 brain cells to rub together to realize that the bible and god and christ and all that crap is just a way to control people and make money. Something tells me this guy lost one of said brain cells so the "rubbing" is over for him

i am a coder, but you don't need to be one to realize the "god" myth is false. The amount of pure evil in the world , the massive amount of children killed, tortured etc, leads us to the conclusion , if there is a god , he is one sick motherfucker.

But i am getting offtopic i suppose as the question was if the bible is true. first off we would need to know what bible you are referring to. Secondly if we were analyzing the bible for its factual accuracy, it fails right from the get-go. There are literally thousands of scientifically impossible facts mentioned. The only way to analyze the bible is with complete faith of god and complete disregard for any facts. Thus you aren't really believing anything at all. You believe what you are told to believe because you are scared. I believe what i have been taught how to analyze things. If there is a god he created me this way , so it must be the correct thought process, he wants me to believe what he created me to believe in :) so we are all cool, you on the otherhand have alot of problems with your version of god :) Your god would be pissed at you right now, whereas mine is having a chuckle :)

p.s. bible does not mention cavemen at all, and why would god create sub-humans.

i was trying to smoke your wannabe hacker ass out =)

here you go smokey, lots of stuff for you to read

Abraham Son #20 Matt.1:1-17; at 2008 + 86 = 2094 After Adam and [ 2058 to 1883 before Christ in Rome world Empire #6 ].
Ishmael born to age 13 = 2107 is 1959 BCE Gen.17:25; 19:30; And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters. Gen.23:17-20;
Abraham burried Sarah in the cave. 2158 after Adam [ 1908 BCE ]. Gen.25:7-10; 2183 after Adam [ 1883 BCE ], Abraham placed beside Sarah. Gen.47:28; Jacob died and was burried in same cave. 2315 after Adam. 2554 is [ 1553 to 1512 BCE ],Joshua 10:16 But these five kings fled, and hid themselves in a cave at Makkedah. Joshua 10:17 And it was told Joshua, saying, The five kings are found hid in a cave at Makkedah. Joshua 10:18 And Joshua said, Roll great stones upon the mouth of the cave, and set men by it for to keep them: King Saul 2949 + 2 = 2951 [ 1117 to 1115 BCE ], 1Sam.13:6; When the men of Israel saw that they were in a strait, (for the people were distressed,) then the people did hide themselves in caves, and in thickets, and in rocks, and in high places, and in pits. 1Sam.22:1 David is 2959 to 3029 after Adam and [ 1107 to 1037 BCE 1Ki.2:10,11 ]; therefore departed thence, and escaped to the cave Adullam: and when his brethren and all his father's house heard it, they went down thither to him. 1Sam.22:2 And every one that was in distress, and every one that was in debt, and every one that was discontented, gathered themselves unto him; and he became a captain over them: and there were with him about four hundred men. 1Sam. 22:3 And David went thence to Mizpeh of Moab: and he said unto the king of Moab, Let my father and my mother, I pray thee, come forth, and be with you, till I know what God will do for me. 1Sam.22:4 And he brought them before the king of Moab: and they dwelt with him all the while that David was in the hold. 1Sam.24:3-8; And he came to the sheepcotes by the way, where was a cave; and Saul went in to cover his feet: and David and his men remained in the sides of the cave. 1Sam.24:4 And the men of David said unto him, Behold the day of which the LORD said unto thee, Behold, I will deliver thine enemy into thine hand, that thou mayest do to him as it shall seem good unto thee. Then David arose, and cut off the skirt of Saul's robe privily. 1Sam.24:5 And it came to pass afterward, that David's heart smote him, because he had cut off Saul's skirt. 1Sam.24:6 And he said unto his men, The LORD forbid that I should do this thing unto my master, the LORD's anointed, to stretch forth mine hand against him, seeing he is the anointed of the LORD. 1Sam.24:7 So David stayed his servants with these words, and suffered them not to rise against Saul. But Saul rose up out of the cave, and went on his way. 1Sam.24:8 David also arose afterward, and went out of the cave, and cried after Saul, saying, My lord the king. And when Saul looked behind him, David stooped with his face to the earth, and bowed himself. 1KI.18:3,4,13; And Ahab called Obadiah, which was the governor of his house. (Now Obadiah feared the LORD greatly: 1KI.18:4 For it was so, when Jezebel cut off the prophets of the LORD, that Obadiah took an hundred prophets, and hid them by fifty in a cave, and fed them with bread and water.)
Elijah and Elisha 3139 after Adam and 927 BCE, Elijah survived in a cave, Elisha was buried in a cave 2Ki.13:20,21; Apostles aware that many prophets survived in caves and dens Heb.11:38;

the enemy is everywhere

the 1st people god created had no souls, it clearly states that in the bible, then adam and eve came along and he gave them souls, the sons of adam did drive the others into caves it says.

so you believe when you have a thoughts of animal sex or little girls or little boys, thats what god wants? NO thats what YOU want! Because you are a nasty sinner who trys to make up shit to justfy yourself filthy ways

PS not saying thats what u think of :winkwink: just useing that as an example

that is what you are telling me, i am saying i dont think about those things because i choose not to. You have no choice what you do , everything is the choice of god. I rule my own thoughts and actions.

there is no evidence "bones" of modern humans at the same time as there was neanderthals, so your story lacks ANY evidence.

The first people earth created, we have proof and evidence. My story has facts and evidence , your story has none.

i do agree with you 100%

you are right, like i said the 1st peoples he created had no souls, for a long time, then they came back and put adam and eve here, the flood killed everybody but noah and his family, and they had to be intermix couple, so all the sons of noah thus had souls

so you did a search of the word "cave" ? wow, lots of mentions of caves, no mention of neanderthals. you fail.


theres no point in going through the list because they are all pretty much as useless as the first.

my question was about cavemen you pointed to this as proof of god..

" And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters."

so you found a statement with the word "CAVE" in it .. and that proves what exactly ?

and that has nothing to do with the fact you have no evidence to suggest there were neanderthals and modern humans at the same time. infact you are proving yourself wrong. By your own statements there should be both human bones and neanderthal bones from the same time period , and there is not.

you think the bible should spell everything out for you ? its meant for you to read and to see what u think. the 1st peoples he created must of been not to bright. :2 cents:

if god wanted us to believe in him he would give us something to believe in :)

(Gen 6:4-5 KJV) There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. {5} And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

i read it , and i don't see any connection to neanderthals and it lacks any evidence at all .. the bible reads like a bad horror movie.

he did, he gave the jews his word and they gave it us, thank them for their sorrow and pain they have went through all these years because of it :2 cents:

neanderthals were not giants.. case closed.. no point reading further,

next vague bible verse please

im sure its not speaking of 20 foot tall men :1orglaugh but maybe around 7 to 8 feet tall, look at asians , small people. they were the true sons of adam. blacks were gods 1st creation , and after the flood, explains where whites came from. when noah cursed hams son cannon

that doesn't make me believe so you both failed, i will repeat , if god wanted me to believe he would give me something to believe in.. the fact he hasn't suggests if there is a god he wants me to make my own decision based on how he has given me the ability to judge things. if he wanted me to blindly believe unproven words in the bible he would make that my judgement process , but he didn't.

The oldest human skeleton was discovered in 1994 in Ethiopia. Nicknamed Ardi, this female was thought to be about 4 feet tall and lived about 4.4 million years ago.

you cant see the truth because you are blind and unwilling to even learn the truths of this world :2 cents:

right which could of been some kind of retarded monkey or something

this thread is full of awesomeness

im going to read the whole thing..lol

evidence shows it is human, you have no evidence it was a retarded monkey. you = fail

now you have to find some other vague quote that mentions dwarfs instead of the one you found that mentions giants :winkwink:

i have a bad habit of getting sucked into stupid debates on here, but how anyone got sucked into this one is beyond me...

well blame your god then , he created me this way according to you.

lol a good debate is always fun..

Fuck GOD, Fuck the Devil! :boid
The only god I know is Lemmy!

Live Fast, Die Old!

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Fucking Awesome thread!!!
I will read every post... Someday...

right, and your not doing what you do to make money ? and your teaching people to like chicks with dicks. real nice of you

no the bible says satan is making you the way you are. not god

It says some people will be able to understand the bible and others will not. You have to read the bible as you do code, you have to decode it, some of the things it says in the bible you cant take literally because god knew we were not smart so he had to say things in a certin way that some people wont be able to decode. That way the bible would live on forever and ever and when the time came those certin people would understand it and fulfill his wants

BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!

The Rapture began ten minutes ago. Why are some of you assholes still here?

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its sick fucks like you who need to be helped, what ever ways that may be :winkwink:

haven't found anything yet i didn't "understand", i understand it completely. It isn't a book of law , it is a collection of thought process.
that uses reasoning and logical thinking, if i coded using faith i wouldn't get far :)

if i coded completely unlogical unreasonable code and relied on faith it would work would be silly.
mostly the parts from beginning to end :thumbsup
lol what a trickster that god is

your bible is not supposed to be taken literally , i heard that once from a religious scholar :winkwink:

your an ok person smokey , i like you in a sick & twisted kinda way :1orglaugh

xenigo needs to eat his own shit untill he can no longer breathe, if any of you sick fucks in here think what bald ass loser looking faggit xenigo is posting is ok and what i am posting isnt, then you all need help and really need to think about these things

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