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Old 12-28-2010, 03:44 PM   #1
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Are NATS sponsors able to increase the REVSHARE payout on a specific affiliate?

Before I ask my sponsor for this, I want to be sure it can be done.

Can a NATS sponsor increase the revshare payout for a specific affiliate if he send them sales?

Is it possible for a NATS sponsor to increase from 50% to 65% ?

I think I will ask this sponsor for an increase, because he charges the billing fees on the total signup and then I get less than 50%...

And I don't like that and don't think it's fair for my hard work sending them my hard earned members that they then use to make their own sales in the members areas with SHITTY CAMS and such, stealing my hard earned member with shitty "cross sales". And no... not all sponsors do this.. I get real 50% on most sponsors I promote.

I will ask for an increase of my affiliate revshare or I will move on and he will lose my hard earned future members.

Easy.
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Old 12-28-2010, 03:46 PM   #2
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Old 12-28-2010, 03:59 PM   #3
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Yes he can. But I advise sending your traffic to someone who will appreciate it and give you a fair deal instead. If they will do that now, what's next tomorrow?
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Old 12-28-2010, 04:05 PM   #4
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Yes he can. But I advise sending your traffic to someone who will appreciate it and give you a fair deal instead. If they will do that now, what's next tomorrow?
Exactly. But I will give them another chance with this. Besides this, which is a very important point, they seem like a good sponsor.

Obviously it's not fair to get $17.48 from a HARD EARNED affiliate who paid $ 39.95 for the initial signup... Or 13.10 for a $ 29.95... FUCK. Its fucking hard these days to get PAYSITE Members and I am sending them some.. And they use the members area to put CAMS banners and they get lots of money I am not even credit for.

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Old 12-28-2010, 04:11 PM   #5
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I know a couple of sponsors that charge a hefty billing fee before the revshare. Always bothered me.
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Old 12-28-2010, 04:13 PM   #6
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Exactly. But I will give them another chance with this. Besides this, which is a very important point, they seem like a good sponsor.

Obviously it's not fair to get $17.48 from a HARD EARNED affiliate who paid $ 39.95 for the initial signup... Or 13.10 for a $ 29.95... FUCK. Its fucking hard these days to get PAYSITE Members and I am sending them some.. And they use the members area to put CAMS banners and they get lots of money I am not even credit for.
Your call on that one. But ask yourself whether they would give you another chance if they caught you carding them. Also how did you find out about the cam upsells, billing charges and the cross sells; did they announce it or did they try to sneak it by you? If the latter what else don't you know about them? You see the problem here...it's a lot like having an unfaithful spouse.

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Old 12-28-2010, 04:23 PM   #7
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Old 12-28-2010, 04:32 PM   #8
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Your call on that one. But ask yourself whether they would give you another chance if they caught you carding them. Also how did you find out about the cam upsells, billing charges and the cross sells; did they announce it or did they try to sneak it by you? If the latter what else don't you know about them? You see the problem here...it's a lot like having an unfaithful spouse.
Easy, you can enter the paysite members area and see the banners.

Most sponsors do it anyway.. check tushydollars (CCBILL) for example with their escort services and stuff in their members areas...

Other, Like the one Im talking about, sell CAMS in their members areas..

Those sponsors make lots of money with their paysite members areas SERVICES...

Problem here is that I'm not getting 50% of the sale, but 43-44% only... And the program Im promoting says 50% revshare...

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Old 12-28-2010, 04:50 PM   #9
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Other, Like the one Im talking about, sell CAMS in their members areas..

Those sponsors make lots of money with their paysite members areas SERVICES...
There are all sorts of things like that. Some much worse than others. But not everyone is doing it. This one will kill you though. Consider the ramifications for trials or free memberships on REVS. You typically depend on the surfer converting to a paid membership but why should the pay site owner even bother if they can sell something else instead and not have to pay out? It's already bad for rebills. Don't forget they also have the email address for direct marketing.

Thankfully not everyone in the business is a crook. There are decent ones still out there. That's why I advocate supporting THEM instead.
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Old 12-28-2010, 09:21 PM   #10
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Old 12-28-2010, 09:56 PM   #11
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There are all sorts of things like that. Some much worse than others. But not everyone is doing it. This one will kill you though. Consider the ramifications for trials or free memberships on REVS. You typically depend on the surfer converting to a paid membership but why should the pay site owner even bother if they can sell something else instead and not have to pay out? It's already bad for rebills. Don't forget they also have the email address for direct marketing.

Thankfully not everyone in the business is a crook. There are decent ones still out there. That's why I advocate supporting THEM instead.
Do you know any sponsors that don't sell their own services or products in the members areas?? and pay 50% of REAL Revenue?

and don't spam their members after they cancelled their subscription to come back for half the price??

And convert fine?
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