ICM Reveals Dot-xxx Sunrise Details - GoFuckYourself.com

LAJ · 12-16-2010, 10:40 AM

The cash grab... er... I mean protecting the children is on!

http://www.ynot.com/content.php?1163...unrise-Details

YNOT – ICM Registry LLC on Thursday pulled back the curtain on its plans to open three “sunrise” registration periods for dot-xxx domains “in early 2011.” Sunrise periods allow significant stakeholders to protect trademarks, service marks and other existing assets in new domain spaces before registration is opened to the general public.

“ICM sincerely acknowledges the sensitivity surrounding adult domains and how adult webmasters are in a unique position compared to mainstream webmasters,” the formal announcement noted. “As a result, dot-xxx domains will be launched using never-before-seen methods to ensure adult webmasters who are members of the sponsored community are being served fairly, equitably and offered incredible new opportunities.”

Because of the unique nature of adult domains, certain latitude will be offered to adult webmasters to protect their existing properties, ICM’s Thursday statement indicated.

“For example, those with registered trademarks and famous brands will have the chance to apply for matching dot-xxx domains during the Sunrise A period, with appropriate documentation for verification,” the statement noted. “Special provisions also have been outlined in the Sunrise B period for those outside the sponsored community to reserve and block dot-xxx domains. [Sunrise B] provides intellectual property protection to businesses operating outside the sponsored community while ensuring priority to adult webmasters who wish to use dot-xxx domains.”

ICM Chief Executive Officer Stuart Lawley told YNOT he expects the first sunrise period to open in April or May, depending upon the date ICM and the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers sign a registry contract. During its Dec. 5-10 meeting in Cartagena, Colombia, ICANN’s board of directors indicated the organization intends to sign such a contract early next year, perhaps as soon as February.

Lawley told YNOT the entire three-phase sunrise period likely will last 60 days, with Sunrise A and Sunrise B launching almost concurrently, followed by the launch of Sunrise C approximately 30 days later. Sunrise A and Sunrise C each will last 30 days, and Sunrise B will last 60 days, overlapping both other periods, Lawley said.

The “land rush,” or open registration period for the adult industry, will begin as soon as Sunrise C closes. The registry will open to the general public about 90 days from the date Sunrise A opens.

“All existing and future pre-reservants whose applications are time- and date-stamped will be notified in a timely manner about which sunrise process they need to use and how to upload their pre-reservation data,” Lawley told YNOT Thursday morning.

Sunrise A will allow registration of trademarks and service marks used within the adult entertainment industry. Names secured under Sunrise A will become conventional, resolving domains. Since dot-xxx is a sponsored community for members of the adult entertainment industry who elect to participate, a string applied for under Sunrise A will receive priority over the identical string applied for under Sunrise B.

In addition to the standard domain-name registration fee, Sunrise A applicants will be assessed a one-time fee per domain to cover the submission, processing and validation of the relevant rights.

Sunrise B will allow rights owners outside the sponsored community (including adult industry insiders who elect not to develop dot-xxx websites) to “block” the registration of domain names that could infringe upon their intellectual property. Names secured under Sunrise B will resolve to a “standard, plain page indicating only that the string is reserved from use through ICM’s rights protection program.” The corresponding WHOIS information will contain standard registry contact details.

“This was an innovative idea by us to prevent 404 error or NX [non-existent] domain results for these names,” he said. “The process will prevent ISPs from monetizing NX domain results [as they do in other domain spaces].”

According to ICM’s Thursday statement, “Any names that have been blocked cannot be unblocked and converted into resolving names without being made generally available. Any entity applying for blocks under Sunrise B as a non-member of the sponsored community cannot apply for names in Sunrise A or C or during the land rush.”

Sunrise B applicants will be assessed a one-time fee per domain to cover submission, processing and validation of the relevant rights. The fee will include an indefinite reservation or blocking of the term in the registry.

“ICM does not envisage charging any additional fees for blocking this string over the term of their contract to run the dot-xxx registry,” according to the Sunrise Program page on the registry’s website.

Sunrise C is for individuals and companies who own un-trademarked domain names in other Top Level Domains. Sunrise C registrants will be required to demonstrate they own a corresponding registration at another TLD registry. Names secured through this route will result in the registration of a conventional, resolving domain name within the dot-xxx registry.

In the case of Sunrise C, the one-time fee per domain to cover the submission, processing and validation of the relevant rights will be substantially lower that for Sunrise A or Sunrise B because the processes will be automated, the ICM statement noted. In addition, the standard domain-name registration fee will be assessed.

The one-time fees for sunrise registration have yet to be determined but will be based on fixed costs amortized across the pool of registrants and certain variable costs, Lawley told YNOT.

He also said ICM has contracted with London-based Valideus to help in implementing the sunrise program. Valideus was founded by two of the directors of ICANN-accredited registrar Com Laude in order to assist corporations and others in navigating ICANN’s new generic TLD program, expected to launch early next year. According to ICM, Valideus “will provide an impartial and unbiased [intellectual property] validation agent.”

Although the adult entertainment industry remains conflicted about the controversial dot-xxx domain, Lawley said the same cannot be inferred about those outside the industry.

“Many ICANN registrars are already gearing up,” he said Thursday.

Within the adult industry, pre-registrations are brisk, Lawley said. ICM is receiving about 500 new pre-registrations daily, he revealed.

"Of the 192,000 pre-reservations to date, around 6,000 are Sunrise B and the remaning 186,000 are split between Sunrise A and C and landrush, with landrush being slighly ahead," he told YNOT.

JFK · 12-16-2010, 10:55 AM

seeric · 12-16-2010, 11:12 AM

seems as though they're doing a good job of playing it like they have the extension already.

its far from over.

LAJ · 12-16-2010, 11:21 AM

Yup, when you "assume the sale" like they are doing, the sheep will follow.

I will be buying ZERO .xxx domains.

Nasty · 12-16-2010, 11:30 AM

I do not anticipate buying any of these fucking domains, trading with any of them or promoting any programs that use them

LAJ · 12-16-2010, 11:48 AM

Anyone want to caption this?

marketsmart · 12-16-2010, 11:53 AM

anyone who buys one of these domains is a fucking idiot....

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MasterM · 12-16-2010, 12:54 PM

i wont buy a single .xxx domain , period

BlackCrayon · 12-16-2010, 01:24 PM

you can kill the monster by not paying attention to them.

JFK · 12-16-2010, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

you can kill the monster by not paying attention to them.

Like hididng your head in the sand ?

HighlyIntoxicated · 12-16-2010, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

you can kill the monster by not paying attention to them.

lol did you get that from an episode of the simpsons?

GetSCORECash · 12-16-2010, 01:32 PM

Thanks LAJ... Atleast we are aware.

Evil Chris · 12-16-2010, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAJ

Anyone want to caption this?

You go ahead Jay.

u-Bob · 12-16-2010, 03:57 PM

<--- won't buy any .xxx domain.
<--- won't link to .xxx domains.
<--- will drop sponsors that register .xxx domains.

u-Bob · 12-16-2010, 03:58 PM

"to protect trademarks, service marks and other existing assets in new domain spaces"

You don't need to register a .xxx domain to protect your trademark

</2 cents>

signupdamnit · 12-16-2010, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nasty

I do not anticipate buying any of these fucking domains, trading with any of them or promoting any programs that use them

I think that's the way to go and let ICANN know this is the plan as well.

The question is can we really pull off a strict boycott? History sadly says otherwise.

MrCain · 12-16-2010, 05:03 PM

Only idiots will buy .xxx domains.

garce · 12-16-2010, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob

<--- won't buy any .xxx domain.
<--- won't link to .xxx domains.
<--- will drop sponsors that register .xxx domains.

Agreed.

I didn't register the .net or .org version of my oldest domains. Unless they can magically sweep all porn off of all .coms (I wouldn't put it past them), I can't see .xxx being much of a threat.

CYF · 12-16-2010, 05:17 PM

I'm not planning on buying any .xxx domain.

ThumbLord · 12-16-2010, 05:29 PM

I am not gonna buy any .xxx domains and anybody that will get the .xxx extension of domains I own in the .com extension will be handled with in any legal way I see fit.
hmmm does that sound complicated or did I drink too much already

Barry-xlovecam · 12-16-2010, 05:37 PM

What if someone gave a party and no one came?

u-Bob · 12-16-2010, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThumbLord

I am not gonna buy any .xxx domains and anybody that will get the .xxx extension of domains I own in the .com extension will be handled with in any legal way I see fit.
hmmm does that sound complicated or did I drink too much already

sounds about right

DWB · 12-16-2010, 06:20 PM

And there you have it.

Lets face the painful truth, no one had the industry in their best interest. It was always about money. I've said it from day one, we'll all get fucked from the inside out and it looks like we just did.

Kudos to the winners and back stabbers.

BSleazy · 12-16-2010, 06:25 PM

Don't worry. The names will be bought up.

spazlabz · 12-16-2010, 06:30 PM

well at least them treating the community fairly includes additional fees...

Quote:

In addition to the standard domain-name registration fee, Sunrise A applicants will be assessed a one-time fee per domain to cover the submission, processing and validation of the relevant rights.

Oh goody

PornMD · 12-16-2010, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LAJ

Anyone want to caption this?

Commemorating the first preregistration of a .xxx domain, FagsNHoes.xxx.

DWB · 12-16-2010, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCyber

Don't worry. The names will be bought up.

You bet your ass they will.

Now here is the part that gets under my skin. This is supposedly all to "protect children" right? OK, so how many children to you know with credit cards? None. How many children can walk into a porn store and buy a porn DVD? None. However I can go to the largest tubes and torrents (always top listings in Google) and download ANYTHING for FREE with no protection from ASACP or anyone else. Kids do not go to pay sites, they go to torrents and tubes, it's free. And I don't need an organization, board members or membership dues to tell me this.

Just one more thing to show all of this is about nothing but the money. I personally believe ALL of those who were there "defending" the industry are set to be paid, as initially they did have a deal in place to profit from this.

PornMD · 12-16-2010, 07:03 PM

If it was a decade ago, I'd be all over getting some .xxx names. But it's not. Adult's dying. I'm not sure there would be any serious domainer that goes gaga over this extension if it passes.

BSleazy · 12-16-2010, 07:05 PM

The big searched keywords will be worth a fortune. What if google decided to give .xxx more points than .coms for porn related searches

DWB · 12-16-2010, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCyber

The big searched keywords will be worth a fortune. What if google decided to give .xxx more points than .coms for porn related searches

If there is a God, that is what will happen. Then .XXX will rank right behind all the torrents and tube sites.

BlackCrayon · 12-17-2010, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCyber

The big searched keywords will be worth a fortune. What if google decided to give .xxx more points than .coms for porn related searches

they will be overpriced regardless, will be full of shill bids, etc. there will also be a lot of lawsuits and lost domains costing those who invested tens of thousands. i know if anyone takes the .xxx of my .com they will be sued.

Connor · 12-20-2010, 02:12 PM

Bottom line is... from a purely business POV, I don't see how .XXX is a good idea. If it were a generic TLD, then I might not have as many concerns, although there would still be some. But this sponsored TLD makes no sense for reasonable adult businesses. No benefit, way too much risk.

12-16-2010, 10:40 AM	#1
LAJ Gingerific Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Austin Posts: 5,567	ICM Reveals Dot-xxx Sunrise Details The cash grab... er... I mean protecting the children is on! http://www.ynot.com/content.php?1163...unrise-Details YNOT – ICM Registry LLC on Thursday pulled back the curtain on its plans to open three “sunrise” registration periods for dot-xxx domains “in early 2011.” Sunrise periods allow significant stakeholders to protect trademarks, service marks and other existing assets in new domain spaces before registration is opened to the general public. “ICM sincerely acknowledges the sensitivity surrounding adult domains and how adult webmasters are in a unique position compared to mainstream webmasters,” the formal announcement noted. “As a result, dot-xxx domains will be launched using never-before-seen methods to ensure adult webmasters who are members of the sponsored community are being served fairly, equitably and offered incredible new opportunities.” Because of the unique nature of adult domains, certain latitude will be offered to adult webmasters to protect their existing properties, ICM’s Thursday statement indicated. “For example, those with registered trademarks and famous brands will have the chance to apply for matching dot-xxx domains during the Sunrise A period, with appropriate documentation for verification,” the statement noted. “Special provisions also have been outlined in the Sunrise B period for those outside the sponsored community to reserve and block dot-xxx domains. [Sunrise B] provides intellectual property protection to businesses operating outside the sponsored community while ensuring priority to adult webmasters who wish to use dot-xxx domains.” ICM Chief Executive Officer Stuart Lawley told YNOT he expects the first sunrise period to open in April or May, depending upon the date ICM and the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers sign a registry contract. During its Dec. 5-10 meeting in Cartagena, Colombia, ICANN’s board of directors indicated the organization intends to sign such a contract early next year, perhaps as soon as February. Lawley told YNOT the entire three-phase sunrise period likely will last 60 days, with Sunrise A and Sunrise B launching almost concurrently, followed by the launch of Sunrise C approximately 30 days later. Sunrise A and Sunrise C each will last 30 days, and Sunrise B will last 60 days, overlapping both other periods, Lawley said. The “land rush,” or open registration period for the adult industry, will begin as soon as Sunrise C closes. The registry will open to the general public about 90 days from the date Sunrise A opens. “All existing and future pre-reservants whose applications are time- and date-stamped will be notified in a timely manner about which sunrise process they need to use and how to upload their pre-reservation data,” Lawley told YNOT Thursday morning. Sunrise A will allow registration of trademarks and service marks used within the adult entertainment industry. Names secured under Sunrise A will become conventional, resolving domains. Since dot-xxx is a sponsored community for members of the adult entertainment industry who elect to participate, a string applied for under Sunrise A will receive priority over the identical string applied for under Sunrise B. In addition to the standard domain-name registration fee, Sunrise A applicants will be assessed a one-time fee per domain to cover the submission, processing and validation of the relevant rights. Sunrise B will allow rights owners outside the sponsored community (including adult industry insiders who elect not to develop dot-xxx websites) to “block” the registration of domain names that could infringe upon their intellectual property. Names secured under Sunrise B will resolve to a “standard, plain page indicating only that the string is reserved from use through ICM’s rights protection program.” The corresponding WHOIS information will contain standard registry contact details. “This was an innovative idea by us to prevent 404 error or NX [non-existent] domain results for these names,” he said. “The process will prevent ISPs from monetizing NX domain results [as they do in other domain spaces].” According to ICM’s Thursday statement, “Any names that have been blocked cannot be unblocked and converted into resolving names without being made generally available. Any entity applying for blocks under Sunrise B as a non-member of the sponsored community cannot apply for names in Sunrise A or C or during the land rush.” Sunrise B applicants will be assessed a one-time fee per domain to cover submission, processing and validation of the relevant rights. The fee will include an indefinite reservation or blocking of the term in the registry. “ICM does not envisage charging any additional fees for blocking this string over the term of their contract to run the dot-xxx registry,” according to the Sunrise Program page on the registry’s website. Sunrise C is for individuals and companies who own un-trademarked domain names in other Top Level Domains. Sunrise C registrants will be required to demonstrate they own a corresponding registration at another TLD registry. Names secured through this route will result in the registration of a conventional, resolving domain name within the dot-xxx registry. In the case of Sunrise C, the one-time fee per domain to cover the submission, processing and validation of the relevant rights will be substantially lower that for Sunrise A or Sunrise B because the processes will be automated, the ICM statement noted. In addition, the standard domain-name registration fee will be assessed. The one-time fees for sunrise registration have yet to be determined but will be based on fixed costs amortized across the pool of registrants and certain variable costs, Lawley told YNOT. He also said ICM has contracted with London-based Valideus to help in implementing the sunrise program. Valideus was founded by two of the directors of ICANN-accredited registrar Com Laude in order to assist corporations and others in navigating ICANN’s new generic TLD program, expected to launch early next year. According to ICM, Valideus “will provide an impartial and unbiased [intellectual property] validation agent.” Although the adult entertainment industry remains conflicted about the controversial dot-xxx domain, Lawley said the same cannot be inferred about those outside the industry. “Many ICANN registrars are already gearing up,” he said Thursday. Within the adult industry, pre-registrations are brisk, Lawley said. ICM is receiving about 500 new pre-registrations daily, he revealed. "Of the 192,000 pre-reservations to date, around 6,000 are Sunrise B and the remaning 186,000 are split between Sunrise A and C and landrush, with landrush being slighly ahead," he told YNOT. __________________ YNOT.com - The original industry resource email jay at ynot dot com or skype LAJConsulting Last edited by LAJ; 12-16-2010 at 10:42 AM..

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12-16-2010, 11:21 AM	#4
LAJ Gingerific Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Austin Posts: 5,567	Yup, when you "assume the sale" like they are doing, the sheep will follow. I will be buying ZERO .xxx domains. __________________ YNOT.com - The original industry resource email jay at ynot dot com or skype LAJConsulting

12-16-2010, 11:30 AM	#5
Nasty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sunny Fucking California Posts: 1,575	I do not anticipate buying any of these fucking domains, trading with any of them or promoting any programs that use them __________________ “Ours is a world of nuclear giants and ethical infants. We know more about war than we know about peace, more about killing than we know about living. If we continue to develop our technology without wisdom or prudence, our servant may prove to be our executioner.” ― Omar Bradley (1948)

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12-16-2010, 11:12 AM	#3
seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	seems as though they're doing a good job of playing it like they have the extension already. its far from over.

12-16-2010, 11:53 AM	#7
marketsmart HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sunnybrook Institution for the Criminally Insane Posts: 20,419	anyone who buys one of these domains is a fucking idiot.... .

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u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063	<--- won't buy any .xxx domain. <--- won't link to .xxx domains. <--- will drop sponsors that register .xxx domains.

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u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063	"to protect trademarks, service marks and other existing assets in new domain spaces" You don't need to register a .xxx domain to protect your trademark </2 cents>

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DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	And there you have it. Lets face the painful truth, no one had the industry in their best interest. It was always about money. I've said it from day one, we'll all get fucked from the inside out and it looks like we just did. Kudos to the winners and back stabbers.

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BSleazy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 6,721	The big searched keywords will be worth a fortune. What if google decided to give .xxx more points than .coms for porn related searches __________________ icq 156131086

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Connor Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,294	Bottom line is... from a purely business POV, I don't see how .XXX is a good idea. If it were a generic TLD, then I might not have as many concerns, although there would still be some. But this sponsored TLD makes no sense for reasonable adult businesses. No benefit, way too much risk. __________________ YNOT v5 IS NOW LIVE! \| SEEN YNOT MAIL YET?