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  • Vendzilla
    Biker Gnome
    • Mar 2004
    • 23200

    #101
    Originally posted by TCLGirls
    Stupid or not, it's true and in the US Constitution...in the US, civilians control the military. So one does not need to have served in the military in order to pass judgment on certain military practices.
    The president is the commander and chief of the military, you moron
    so shut the fuck up on matters you have no fucking idea about.

    Civilians can't even get on base without a reason, moron
    Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
    think about that

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    • Vendzilla
      Biker Gnome
      • Mar 2004
      • 23200

      #102
      Originally posted by MaDalton
      dammit - i have this problem that everytime someone tells me to shut up i start posting twice as much...
      Go ahead, I mean what if a gay black woman with one leg wants to join up?

      If she can do the job, go for it
      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
      think about that

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      • TCLGirls
        Confirmed User
        • Feb 2010
        • 3068

        #103
        Originally posted by The Demon
        Kinda takes out the purpose of saying "I'm gay and I'm proud" right? Also if it was conclusively biological, that's another reason not to support same sex marriage, but I digress.
        Not following...could you explain further? How does homosexuality being a biological characteristic take away from the purpose of saying "I'm gay and I'm proud". Are you saying people should not be proud of their own unique biological characteristics?

        Regarding gay marriage, that's off topic, but I will say I think the Government should get out of the business of marriage all together and leave it to private entities/organizations themselves to choose whether or not they want to marry gay couples.

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        • TCLGirls
          Confirmed User
          • Feb 2010
          • 3068

          #104
          Originally posted by Vendzilla
          The president is the commander and chief of the military, you moron
          so shut the fuck up on matters you have no fucking idea about.

          Civilians can't even get on base without a reason, moron
          Congress also has control of the military...last I heard all Congress members are civilians.

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          • Bryan G
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2005
            • 8338

            #105
            Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
            Great, now we will have more soldiers like Bradley Manning.

            Jesus you really are an ignorant redneck asshole Aren?t you
            Bryan
            skype: bryan.glass3 | ICQ 302999591

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            • The Demon
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2003
              • 7336

              #106
              The typical stupid liberal response is always a combination of redneck/hillbilly.
              Greed is Good

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              • Amputate Your Head
                There can be only one
                • Aug 2001
                • 39075

                #107
                Originally posted by Vendzilla

                Civilians can't even get on base without a reason, moron
                except on all the bases that are wide open, that you can drive right in.
                SIG TOO BIG

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                • Vendzilla
                  Biker Gnome
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 23200

                  #108
                  Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                  except on all the bases that are wide open, that you can drive right in.
                  Last time I was on one, I had to show ID
                  And we were on a list

                  if they close a base, it's closed, civilians can demand all they want
                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                  think about that

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                  • Amputate Your Head
                    There can be only one
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 39075

                    #109
                    Originally posted by Vendzilla
                    Last time I was on one, I had to show ID
                    And we were on a list

                    if they close a base, it's closed, civilians can demand all they want
                    isn't Ft. Jackson wide open?
                    isn't Ft. Riley wide open?

                    etc.
                    SIG TOO BIG

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                    • Vendzilla
                      Biker Gnome
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 23200

                      #110
                      Originally posted by TCLGirls
                      Congress also has control of the military...last I heard all Congress members are civilians.
                      And do you in all your wisdom think you're getting the same rights given to members on congress? What a fucking moron!

                      Even members of congress can't get at every piece of military secrets, only the president can
                      Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                      think about that

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                      • KillerK
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2008
                        • 3406

                        #111
                        The big issue with this passing, is ....

                        If you are married in the military you get $400 more pay than if you aren't. So the Gays will fight hard for this next.

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                        • Vendzilla
                          Biker Gnome
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 23200

                          #112
                          Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                          isn't Ft. Jackson wide open?
                          isn't Ft. Riley wide open?

                          etc.
                          Ever been on a base that was closed, I have

                          Ever loaded a nuke on a section of base that if anyone unauthorized would have been shot trying to get to?

                          I have.
                          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                          think about that

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                          • Amputate Your Head
                            There can be only one
                            • Aug 2001
                            • 39075

                            #113
                            Originally posted by Vendzilla
                            Ever been on a base that was closed, I have

                            Ever loaded a nuke on a section of base that if anyone unauthorized would have been shot trying to get to?

                            I have.
                            yes, i have.

                            but that's not the point. You said "Civilians can't even get on base without a reason". You are wrong.
                            SIG TOO BIG

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                            • Vendzilla
                              Biker Gnome
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 23200

                              #114
                              Originally posted by KillerK
                              The big issue with this passing, is ....

                              If you are married in the military you get $400 more pay than if you aren't. So the Gays will fight hard for this next.
                              Didn't think of that, I wonder how they will do that, I mean if the military accepts gay marriage, they are considered federal, state law I don't think would apply, but I could be wrong
                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                              think about that

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                              • Vendzilla
                                Biker Gnome
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 23200

                                #115
                                Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
                                yes, i have.

                                but that's not the point. You said "Civilians can't even get on base without a reason". You are wrong.
                                OK, my bad. Should have said what I know, on a ship
                                Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                think about that

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                                • baddog
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Apr 2001
                                  • 107089

                                  #116
                                  Originally posted by Bryan G
                                  Jesus you really are an ignorant redneck asshole Aren?t you
                                  Are you suggesting he is not gay?

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                                  • cwd
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Feb 2006
                                    • 1955

                                    #117
                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                    By a vote of 65 to 31 this afternoon, the Senate voted to repeal the military's Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy.


                                    Now, if they can get their shit together and pass the Zadroga Bill this lame duck session won't seem so lame.
                                    good deal. And they should not be allowed to leave until they can get the Zagroda bill passed, which it should have been long ago.

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                                    • baddog
                                      So Fucking Banned
                                      • Apr 2001
                                      • 107089

                                      #118
                                      Originally posted by cwd
                                      they should not be allowed to leave until they can get the Zagroda bill passed, which it should have been long ago.

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                                      • TCLGirls
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Feb 2010
                                        • 3068

                                        #119
                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                        And do you in all your wisdom think you're getting the same rights given to members on congress? What a fucking moron!

                                        Even members of congress can't get at every piece of military secrets, only the president can
                                        Pro Tip: The President is also a civilian.

                                        Thus, civilians (President and Congress) control the military, regardless of how much that fact annoys you.

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                                        • Rochard
                                          Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                          • Dec 2001
                                          • 75733

                                          #120
                                          Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                          No, it's the consensus of the ship she was on that gays serving openly would make people uncomfortable more than having women on the ship.
                                          When kids join the military they are surrounded by women, they are not always surrounded by gays.
                                          Remember that I'm for gays serving
                                          But that's part of my point. Shortly before they allowed women to serve on US Navy ships, all the men sat around saying "this is going to be more uncomfortable than serving with blacks". Change is always difficult.
                                          Herschel Savage
                                          Brooklyn, NY

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                                          • GatorB
                                            The Demon & 12clicks
                                            • Oct 2001
                                            • 18208

                                            #121
                                            Originally posted by The Demon
                                            The typical stupid liberal response is always a combination of redneck/hillbilly.
                                            Actually that usually republicans, dumbass. Try looking at a map MORON. get the fuck out of here NON-porn person.

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                                            • Vendzilla
                                              Biker Gnome
                                              • Mar 2004
                                              • 23200

                                              #122
                                              Originally posted by TCLGirls
                                              Pro Tip: The President is also a civilian.

                                              Thus, civilians (President and Congress) control the military, regardless of how much that fact annoys you.
                                              Only fact that annoys me is that you're beating a dead horse like it owes you $10 for a blow job

                                              Originally posted by Rochard
                                              But that's part of my point. Shortly before they allowed women to serve on US Navy ships, all the men sat around saying "this is going to be more uncomfortable than serving with blacks". Change is always difficult.
                                              That's what I have been trying to tell everyone, but in their arrogance, they think they know what goes on in the military without ever serving.

                                              Change is always difficult
                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                              think about that

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                                              • baddog
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Apr 2001
                                                • 107089

                                                #123
                                                Originally posted by GatorB
                                                Actually that usually republicans, dumbass. Try looking at a map MORON. get the fuck out of here NON-porn person.
                                                What is it you do? The Demon has already been confirmed. You have not.

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                                                • Vendzilla
                                                  Biker Gnome
                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                  • 23200

                                                  #124
                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                  What is it you do? The Demon has already been confirmed. You have not.
                                                  You never see them together in a picture, could they be the same person?
                                                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                  think about that

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                                                  • The Demon
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                    • 7336

                                                    #125
                                                    Originally posted by GatorB
                                                    Actually that usually republicans, dumbass. Try looking at a map MORON. get the fuck out of here NON-porn person.
                                                    Wait, the REpublicans are usually the ones calling someone a redneck or hillbilly? Because that would be weird since the greatest moniker used by the left for the right or for Republicans.. So either the Republicans talk shit about themselves, or you're a fucking idiot (as we all know).

                                                    You never see them together in a picture, could they be the same person?
                                                    I'd shoot myself if my IQ was as low as GatorB.. Suicide is the only viable option in this case.
                                                    Greed is Good

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                                                    • Bryan G
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Aug 2005
                                                      • 8338

                                                      #126
                                                      Originally posted by baddog
                                                      Are you suggesting he is not gay?
                                                      No, I know he's gay.
                                                      Bryan
                                                      skype: bryan.glass3 | ICQ 302999591

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                                                      • TCLGirls
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Feb 2010
                                                        • 3068

                                                        #127
                                                        Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                        Only fact that annoys me is that you're beating a dead horse like it owes you $10 for a blow job
                                                        So ultimately it's true, civilians do control the military. Truth hurts doesn't it...

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                                                        • Vendzilla
                                                          Biker Gnome
                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                          • 23200

                                                          #128
                                                          Originally posted by TCLGirls
                                                          So ultimately it's true, civilians do control the military. Truth hurts doesn't it...
                                                          Calling the POTUS a civilian is like calling you intelligent, it just doesn't fit

                                                          And BTW, the POTUS can attack without the congress, like Vietnam, Korea and Panama were started without the congress.
                                                          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                          think about that

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                                                          • TCLGirls
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Feb 2010
                                                            • 3068

                                                            #129
                                                            Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                            Calling the POTUS a civilian is like calling you intelligent, it just doesn't fit

                                                            And BTW, the POTUS can attack without the congress, like Vietnam, Korea and Panama were started without the congress.
                                                            U MAD? lol

                                                            Civilians control the military regardless of how mad that makes you. The President is a civilian and so are members of Congress....the body that controls the military budget.

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                                                            • Vendzilla
                                                              Biker Gnome
                                                              • Mar 2004
                                                              • 23200

                                                              #130
                                                              Originally posted by TCLGirls
                                                              U MAD? lol

                                                              Civilians control the military regardless of how mad that makes you. The President is a civilian and so are members of Congress....the body that controls the military budget.
                                                              Why is this relevant ?


                                                              Why would I be mad, I deal with idiots on this forum all the time, your not the first or the last. We were talking about DADT and you spent a page arguing that the civilians control the military, they don't, the government does. It's irrelevant, but so are most of your posts.
                                                              Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                                              think about that

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                                                              • TCLGirls
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Feb 2010
                                                                • 3068

                                                                #131
                                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                Why is this relevant ?
                                                                It's relevant because you previously argued that people without military experience should not be commenting or passing judgment on the military.

                                                                I just proved to you that your statement is contradictory to the US Constitution...civilians do in fact have the power to control the military, regardless of military experience.

                                                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                Why would I be mad, I deal with idiots on this forum all the time, your not the first or the last. We were talking about DADT and you spent a page arguing that the civilians control the military, they don't, the government does. It's irrelevant, but so are most of your posts.
                                                                Well you sound mad, that's why I asked. People who cannot control themselves from cursing are normally angry people.

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                                                                • Amputate Your Head
                                                                  There can be only one
                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                  • 39075

                                                                  #132
                                                                  the military is under civilian control.

                                                                  it's a fact, and it's the end of argument.
                                                                  SIG TOO BIG

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                                                                  • Coup
                                                                    🚨 PBBC International 🚨
                                                                    • Apr 2010
                                                                    • 9931

                                                                    #133
                                                                    Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                                                    Calling the POTUS a civilian is like calling you intelligent, it just doesn't fit

                                                                    And BTW, the POTUS can attack without the congress, like Vietnam, Korea and Panama were started without the congress.
                                                                    Dude, you are a walking, breathing manifestation of pure, unbridled ignorance.

                                                                    http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A2Sec2
                                                                    Section 2 - Civilian Power over Military, Cabinet, Pardon Power, Appointments

                                                                    The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

                                                                    He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

                                                                    The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session
                                                                    Last edited by Coup; 12-20-2010, 06:30 PM.

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