The president is the commander and chief of the military, you moron
so shut the fuck up on matters you have no fucking idea about.

Civilians can't even get on base without a reason, moron

Go ahead, I mean what if a gay black woman with one leg wants to join up?

If she can do the job, go for it

Not following...could you explain further? How does homosexuality being a biological characteristic take away from the purpose of saying "I'm gay and I'm proud". Are you saying people should not be proud of their own unique biological characteristics?

Regarding gay marriage, that's off topic, but I will say I think the Government should get out of the business of marriage all together and leave it to private entities/organizations themselves to choose whether or not they want to marry gay couples.

Congress also has control of the military...last I heard all Congress members are civilians.

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Jesus you really are an ignorant redneck asshole Aren?t you

The typical stupid liberal response is always a combination of redneck/hillbilly.

except on all the bases that are wide open, that you can drive right in.

Last time I was on one, I had to show ID
And we were on a list

if they close a base, it's closed, civilians can demand all they want

isn't Ft. Jackson wide open?
isn't Ft. Riley wide open?

etc.

And do you in all your wisdom think you're getting the same rights given to members on congress? What a fucking moron!

Even members of congress can't get at every piece of military secrets, only the president can

The big issue with this passing, is ....

If you are married in the military you get $400 more pay than if you aren't. So the Gays will fight hard for this next.

Ever been on a base that was closed, I have

Ever loaded a nuke on a section of base that if anyone unauthorized would have been shot trying to get to?

I have.

yes, i have.

but that's not the point. You said "Civilians can't even get on base without a reason". You are wrong.

Didn't think of that, I wonder how they will do that, I mean if the military accepts gay marriage, they are considered federal, state law I don't think would apply, but I could be wrong

OK, my bad. Should have said what I know, on a ship

Are you suggesting he is not gay?

good deal. And they should not be allowed to leave until they can get the Zagroda bill passed, which it should have been long ago.

:thumbsup

Pro Tip: The President is also a civilian.

Thus, civilians (President and Congress) control the military, regardless of how much that fact annoys you.

But that's part of my point. Shortly before they allowed women to serve on US Navy ships, all the men sat around saying "this is going to be more uncomfortable than serving with blacks". Change is always difficult.

Actually that usually republicans, dumbass. Try looking at a map MORON. get the fuck out of here NON-porn person.

Only fact that annoys me is that you're beating a dead horse like it owes you $10 for a blow job

That's what I have been trying to tell everyone, but in their arrogance, they think they know what goes on in the military without ever serving.

Change is always difficult

What is it you do? The Demon has already been confirmed. You have not.

You never see them together in a picture, could they be the same person?

Wait, the REpublicans are usually the ones calling someone a redneck or hillbilly? Because that would be weird since the greatest moniker used by the left for the right or for Republicans.. So either the Republicans talk shit about themselves, or you're a fucking idiot (as we all know).

I'd shoot myself if my IQ was as low as GatorB.. Suicide is the only viable option in this case.

No, I know he's gay.

So ultimately it's true, civilians do control the military. Truth hurts doesn't it...

Calling the POTUS a civilian is like calling you intelligent, it just doesn't fit

And BTW, the POTUS can attack without the congress, like Vietnam, Korea and Panama were started without the congress.

U MAD? lol

Civilians control the military regardless of how mad that makes you. The President is a civilian and so are members of Congress....the body that controls the military budget.

Why is this relevant ?


Why would I be mad, I deal with idiots on this forum all the time, your not the first or the last. We were talking about DADT and you spent a page arguing that the civilians control the military, they don't, the government does. It's irrelevant, but so are most of your posts.

It's relevant because you previously argued that people without military experience should not be commenting or passing judgment on the military.

I just proved to you that your statement is contradictory to the US Constitution...civilians do in fact have the power to control the military, regardless of military experience.

Well you sound mad, that's why I asked. People who cannot control themselves from cursing are normally angry people.

the military is under civilian control.

it's a fact, and it's the end of argument.

Dude, you are a walking, breathing manifestation of pure, unbridled ignorance.

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#A2Sec2
Section 2 - Civilian Power over Military, Cabinet, Pardon Power, Appointments

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to Grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session