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Old 01-12-2003, 07:37 PM   #1
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Hi!

I started a spiff group(s) (two but the same),
at Yahoo! and at MSN, concerning the "Money"
in use in the United States, and it may
be an eye opener for most.

There is just a little bit I have posted so far,
but the links are already very pertinent for
getting related inofrmation about this issue.



http://groups.msn.com/thetruthbehindthelies



http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thetruthbehindthelies/



U.S. economic policy (our MONEY),
the Federal Reserve System ($$$)
and Federal Income Tax and IRS
in collusion, is deceitful, and fraudulent,
and hoax constituting tyranny which
enslaves us in inextinguishable debt,
and should not be tolerated.


I invite all to join and learn and participate!

Please.

Thank you.



Lawrence



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On the night of November 22, 1910, a group of newspaper reporters stood disconsolately in the railway station at Hoboken, New Jersey. They had just watched a delegation of the nation?s leading financiers leave the station on a secret mission. It would be years before they discovered what that mission was, and even then they would not understand that the history of the United States underwent a drastic change after that night in Hoboken.

The delegation had left in a sealed railway car, with blinds drawn, for an undisclosed destination. They were led by Senator Nelson Aldrich, head of the National Monetary Commission. President Theodore Roosevelt had signed into law the bill creating the National Monetary Commission in 1908, after the tragic Panic of 1907 had resulted in a public outcry that the nation?s monetary system be stabilized. Aldrich had led the members of the Commission on a two-year tour of Europe, spending some three hundred thousand dollars of public money. He had not yet made a report on the results of this trip, nor had he offered any plan for banking reform.

Accompanying Senator Aldrich at the Hoboken station were his private secretary, Shelton; A. Piatt Andrew, Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, and Special Assistant of the National Monetary Commission; Frank Vanderlip, president of the National City Bank of New York, Henry P. Davison, senior partner of J.P. Morgan Company, and generally regarded as Morgan?s personal emissary; and Charles D. Norton, president of the Morgan-dominated First National Bank of New York. Joining the group just before the train left the station were Benjamin Strong, also known as a lieutenant of J.P. Morgan; and Paul Warburg, a recent immigrant from Germany who had joined the banking house of Kuhn, Loeb

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and Company, New York as a partner earning five hundred thousand dollars a year.

Six years later, a financial writer named Bertie Charles Forbes (who later founded the Forbes Magazine; the present editor, Malcom Forbes, is his son), wrote:

"Picture a party of the nation?s greatest bankers stealing out of New York on a private railroad car under cover of darkness, stealthily hieing hundred of miles South, embarking on a mysterious

launch, sneaking onto an island deserted by all but a few servants, living there a full week under

such rigid secrecy that the names of not one of them was once mentioned lest the servants learn

the identity and disclose to the world this strangest, most secret expedition in the history of

American finance. I am not romancing; I am giving to the world, for the first time, the real story

of how the famous Aldrich currency report, the foundation of our new currency system, was

written . . . . The utmost secrecy was enjoined upon all. The public must not glean a hint of what

was to be done. Senator Aldrich notified each one to go quietly into a private car of which the

railroad had received orders to draw up on an unfrequented platform. Off the party set. New

York?s ubiquitous reporters had been foiled . . . Nelson (Aldrich) had confided to Henry, Frank,

Paul and Piatt that he was to keep them locked up at Jekyll Island, out of the rest of the world,

until they had evolved and compiled a scientific currency system for the United States, the real

birth of the present Federal Reserve System, the plan done on Jekyll Island in the conference with

Paul, Frank and Henry . . . . Warburg is the link that binds the Aldrich system and the present

system together. He more than any one man has made the system possible as a working reality."2

The official biography of Senator Nelson Aldrich states:

"In the autumn of 1910, six men went out to shoot ducks, Aldrich, his secretary Shelton, Andrews, Davison, Vanderlip and Warburg. Reporters were waiting at the Brunswick (Georgia) station. Mr. Davison went out and talked to them. The reporters dispersed and the secret of the strange journey was not divulged. Mr. Aldrich asked him how he had managed it and he did not volunteer the information."3

Davison had an excellent reputation as the person who could conciliate warring factions, a role he had performed for J.P. Morgan during the settling of the Money Panic of 1907. Another Morgan partner, T.W. Lamont, says:



"Henry P. Davison served as arbitrator of the Jekyll Island expedition."4

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From these references, it is possible to piece together the story. Aldrich?s private car, which had left Hoboken station with its shades drawn, had taken the financiers to Jekyll Island, Georgia. Some years earlier, a very exclusive group of millionaires, led by J.P. Morgan, had purchased the island as a winter retreat. They called themselves the Jekyll Island Hunt Club, and, at first, the island was used only for hunting expeditions, until the millionaires realized that its pleasant climate offered a warm retreat from the rigors of winters in New York, and began to build splendid mansions, which they called "cottages", for their families? winter vacations. The club building itself, being quite isolated, was sometimes in demand for stag parties and other pursuits unrelated to hunting. On such occasions, the club members who were not invited to these specific outings were asked not to appear there for a certain number of days. Before Nelson Aldrich?s party had left New York, the club?s members had been notified that the club would be occupied for the next two weeks.

The Jekyll Island Club was chosen as the place to draft the plan for control of the money and credit of the people of the United States, not only because of its isolation, but also because it was the private preserve of the people who were drafting the plan. The New York Times later noted, on May 3, 1931, in commenting on the death of George F. Baker, one of J.P. Morgan?s closest associates, that "Jekyll Island Club has lost one of its most distinguished members. One-sixth of the total wealth of the world was represented by the members of the Jekyll Island Club." Membership was by inheritance only.

The Aldrich group had no interest in hunting. Jekyll Island was chosen for the site of the preparation of the central bank because it offered complete privacy, and because there was not a journalist within fifty miles. Such was the need for secrecy that the members of the party agreed, before arriving at Jekyll Island, that no last names would be used at any time during their two week stay. The group later referred to themselves as the First Name Club, as the last names of Warburg, Strong, Vanderlip and the others were prohibited during their stay. The customary attendants had been given two week vacations from the club, and new servants brought in from the mainland for this occasion who did not know the names of any of those present. Even if they had been interrogated after the Aldrich party went back to New York, they could not have given the names. This arrangement proved to be so satisfactory that the members, limited to those who had actually been present at Jekyll Island, later had a number of informal get-togethers in New York.

Why all this secrecy? Why this thousand mile trip in a closed railway car to a remote hunting club? Ostensibly, it was to carry out a program of public service, to prepare banking reform which would be a boon to the people of the United States, which had been ordered by the National

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Monetary Commission. The participants were no strangers to public benefactions. Usually, their names were inscribed on brass plaques, or on the exteriors of buildings which they had donated. This was not the procedure which they followed at Jekyll Island. No brass plaque was ever erected to mark the selfless actions of those who met at their private hunt club in 1910 to improve the lot of every citizen of the United States.

In fact, no benefaction took place at Jekyll Island. The Aldrich group journeyed there in private to write the banking and currency legislation which the National Monetary Commission had been ordered to prepare in public. At stake was the future control of the money and credit of the United States. If any genuine monetary reform had been prepared and presented to Congress, it would have ended the power of the elitist one world money creators. Jekyll Island ensured that a central bank would be established in the United States which would give these bankers everything they had always wanted.
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Old 01-12-2003, 07:42 PM   #2
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and ENRON wrote Dick Cheney's energy policy. Grow up and welcome to the real world run by the rich for the rich. We are but petty cogs in the wheels of them being powerful. '

Still you have a better chance at personal wealth and material happyness in the US than anyplace else in the world.

Personally I would prefer to have the bag of bucks collected and live in Amsterdam during the summer and the West Indies for the winter.
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Old 01-12-2003, 08:38 PM   #3
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That's all well and good my friend,
but what has it to do with the price of tea in China?
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Old 01-12-2003, 08:46 PM   #4
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If you cannot figure that out you did not read your own post.
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Old 01-13-2003, 07:11 PM   #6
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Old 01-13-2003, 07:40 PM   #7
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Here is the beginning of understanding (this).

I challenge you.

Rock on!

Happy reading, please!


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Economic Rape of America

http://www.buildfreedom.com/tl/rapecon.shtml



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The Federal Reserve: An Astounding Exposure 1934

http://groups.msn.com/theusconstitut...ure%201934.htm



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Secrets of The Federal Reserve by Eustace Mullins

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm



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Killing the Banking Beast

Has it ever occurred to you that
the federal government has no need of taxes for revenue?

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1994/vo10no18.htm



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WHY AN INCOME TAX IS NOT NECESSARY

Understanding the Great American Hoax -

A Step-by-Step Explanation of How Congress

and the Bankers Are Stealing US Blind


http://www.devvy.com/taxbook-html_20010617.html



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Old 01-13-2003, 08:37 PM   #8
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Congressman Louis T. McFadden said the following
during a speech before Congress on June 10, 1932:

"Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known.

I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks.

The Federal Reserve Board, a government board, has cheated the Government of the United States and the people of the United States out of enough money to pay the national debt.

The depredations and the iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks acting together have cost this country enough money to pay the national debt several times over.

This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the United States; has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our government.

It has done this through the defects of the law under which it operates, through the maladministration of that law by the Federal Reserve Board, and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.

Some people think the Federal Reserve banks are United States Government institutions.

They are not government institutions.

They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders.

In that dark crew of financial pirates there are those who would cut a man's throat to get a dollar out of his pocket; there are those who send money into states to buy votes to control our legislation; and there are those who maintain an international propaganda for the purpose of deceiving us and wheedling us into the granting of new concessions which will permit them to cover up their past misdeeds and set again in motion their gigantic train of crime."

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Old 01-15-2003, 05:34 PM   #9
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I thought you could only post to your own thread after 10 legit replies??

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