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Lionking · 01-15-2003, 09:44 AM

Hi,

do you have any experience with Seventeen (seventeen.nl) as a sponsor? I would be asking this question from them, but since they haven't responded to any of the messages I've sent them, I'll post it here... (guess I'm sending too little traffic).

Friend of mine was asking few days ago how all this "adult sponsoring and stuff works". So I gave him a demo, I showed one of my sites, and he clicked one of the seventeen ads. He then phoned himself to access the site. He wasn't online for a long, but enough to have a good look at the site.

First unpleasent surprise:
Seventeen doesn't announce their dialer rates, so earlier I phoned the company providing the billing services for them, and got the end-user rate. Or so I thought... On the phone it said a compleate different rate, no wonder my traffic converts like shit <grin>.

Second unpleasent surprise:
His call doesn't show up in the stats. I've only had couple of calls alltogether, and for that day (or the following day) there is no calls at all.

Mighty disturbing.

Bye bye seventeen from me.

multisexsite · 01-15-2003, 09:52 AM

DavePlays · 01-15-2003, 09:58 AM

That's the first sign of bad things... when a sponsor won't reply to your questions or concerns - it's a sure sign they aren't there to be of any service to you.

Writing a sponsor is the first thing I do when I'm thinking of using them, no reply, no business.

And it's the quickest reason I'll drop one if they don't. It's a lousy feeling to be ignored.

CHEERS - and good luck

VIP · 01-15-2003, 10:04 AM

Your Payserve Account Managers

A little word from your Account Managers: please contact us for information, inquiries, ideas, special requests, business ideas etc etc. We will be more than Happy to talk to you !

Nick Maria
[email protected] [email protected]
ICQ# 122879984 ICQ# 69283466
MSN: [email protected]

Think you should try again! And refer to your account number...

VIP · 01-15-2003, 10:06 AM

BTW it's 6 PM now in Holland...

p00p · 01-15-2003, 10:14 AM

Couple things....

Assuming your sponsor is honest (which I doubt) perhaps they don't post your dialler minutes right away?

or, they are fucking you, which I believe. I have been dealing with dialler companies for years, and have only used one that didn't screw me over in one way or another. One.

E-mail me if you want info. I am not a shill for them. I don't even use diallers anymore. But the company I was using has been in biz for years, and treated me well. Made lots of cash from them.

E-mail me from your domain.

[email protected]

Lionking · 01-15-2003, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Your Payserve Account Managers

A little word from your Account Managers: please contact us for information, inquiries, ideas, special requests, business ideas etc etc. We will be more than Happy to talk to you !

Think you should try again! And refer to your account number...

Well that's a really good point. I'll try again, actually sounds like a such a good idea, that I'll send you ALL my traffic. Ready? Here it comes:

mrthumbs · 01-15-2003, 10:19 AM

you can say a lot of things about Payserve / Seventeen.
Im not so happy with their new system but one thing is for sure:

They ALWAYS respond and they DONT shave.
Not on Dialers, not on signups.

One of the most stand-up most professional companies
in this business.

VIP · 01-15-2003, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lionking

Well that's a really good point. I'll try again, actually sounds like a such a good idea, that I'll send you ALL my traffic. Ready? Here it comes:

Just trying to help, do not even try to post a thread when you do not want any solutions!
BTW the dialer company they work with for your country is No Credit Card... Talk to them...

I do not work for Payserve but know them for a long time...
They are arround for a long time aswell...
Do not need you traffic and now GO FUCK YOURSELF!

p00p · 01-15-2003, 10:32 AM

How many dialler companies are going now? From what I understand there are a few, and the rest are resellers?

ControlThy · 01-15-2003, 11:32 AM

I agree with Mrthumbs.

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VIP · 01-15-2003, 11:34 AM

Hakuna Matata

SleazyDream · 01-15-2003, 11:51 AM

i've never had any problems with seventeen..........

Lionking · 01-15-2003, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Hakuna Matata

LukieD · 01-15-2003, 11:56 AM

I thought from the thread title you were 17 and needed shaving advice

grumpy · 01-15-2003, 12:02 PM

I agree with MrThumbs, Seventeen is a thumbsup company

Sassyass · 01-15-2003, 12:03 PM

What you look'n at...

p00p · 01-15-2003, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ControlThy
I agree with Mrthumbs.

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How many years have you been pushing diallers?

brutus · 01-15-2003, 02:44 PM

Seventeen / Payserve is a good pro company. No any problems with them.

jacky · 01-15-2003, 05:06 PM

payserve is a good company and allways pay ontime
the probley dont respond becores its 00.58 our here in Holland

but if you icq maria ore dennis when you wake up you got a repley

beenus · 01-16-2003, 01:09 AM

Good morning,

as head of the Seventeen program I would like to thank you guys for the nice words ;-)

The only reason I am able to make up for not responding to you LionKing is that Maria is on a well deserved ski holiday, this means that replies could take a little bit longer, I apologise for the inconvenience.

DIALERS
About the dialers, please note that all dialers are controlled by NoCreditCard and I will definately pass your comments on.

DIALER STATS
The dialer stats are tracked real time but always displayed the next day around 1PM CET

NEW NEW
If you wish to give our program one more try, we will start with trial memberships this week for a few of our sites...

Dennis Beentjes

Nasty D · 01-16-2003, 01:19 AM

senenteen, seems a little young?

beenus · 01-16-2003, 01:47 AM

As long as it seems young it doesn't matter, all models are 18+.

We have been quite fortunate to have this brandname called 'SEVENTEEN' which has been a leading name for nearly 34 years in the Netherlands...

As a matter of fact, I somebody isn't promoting our program yet, please have them send me an e-mail at [email protected] or ICQ (100298458) I will give them a special deal TODAY.

The only condition is that everybody needs to post their findings at this board ;-)

NickB. · 01-16-2003, 05:09 AM

Damn... Seems like I'm a bit late replying to this thread !!

What can I say more?

marty · 01-16-2003, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LukieD
I thought from the thread title you were 17 and needed shaving advice

Same here except I was hoping it was a girl asking

NickB. · 01-16-2003, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by marty
Same here except I was hoping it was a girl asking

Mhhhuuuhahahahahha!
My screen is now filled with some coke....

01-15-2003, 09:44 AM	#1
Lionking Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 61	seventeen shaving? Hi, do you have any experience with Seventeen (seventeen.nl) as a sponsor? I would be asking this question from them, but since they haven't responded to any of the messages I've sent them, I'll post it here... (guess I'm sending too little traffic). Friend of mine was asking few days ago how all this "adult sponsoring and stuff works". So I gave him a demo, I showed one of my sites, and he clicked one of the seventeen ads. He then phoned himself to access the site. He wasn't online for a long, but enough to have a good look at the site. First unpleasent surprise: Seventeen doesn't announce their dialer rates, so earlier I phoned the company providing the billing services for them, and got the end-user rate. Or so I thought... On the phone it said a compleate different rate, no wonder my traffic converts like shit <grin>. Second unpleasent surprise: His call doesn't show up in the stats. I've only had couple of calls alltogether, and for that day (or the following day) there is no calls at all. Mighty disturbing. Bye bye seventeen from me. __________________ Ask me about custom adult content management system for handling CM, site & domain management, sponsor management, customised submitter and more...

01-15-2003, 09:52 AM	#2
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01-15-2003, 09:58 AM	#3
DavePlays Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: West (by God) Virginia Posts: 1,088	That's the first sign of bad things... when a sponsor won't reply to your questions or concerns - it's a sure sign they aren't there to be of any service to you. Writing a sponsor is the first thing I do when I'm thinking of using them, no reply, no business. And it's the quickest reason I'll drop one if they don't. It's a lousy feeling to be ignored. CHEERS - and good luck __________________ THE BEST CONVERTING TGP If I were only going to submit to one TGP, it would be BOOK-MARK.NET.

01-15-2003, 10:04 AM	#4
VIP Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 360	Your Payserve Account Managers A little word from your Account Managers: please contact us for information, inquiries, ideas, special requests, business ideas etc etc. We will be more than Happy to talk to you ! Nick Maria [email protected] [email protected] ICQ# 122879984 ICQ# 69283466 MSN: [email protected] Think you should try again! And refer to your account number... __________________ E-Mail or ICQ: 99786213

01-15-2003, 10:06 AM	#5
VIP Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 360	BTW it's 6 PM now in Holland... __________________ E-Mail or ICQ: 99786213

01-15-2003, 10:14 AM	#6
p00p Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: CanaDUH Posts: 5,125	Couple things.... Assuming your sponsor is honest (which I doubt) perhaps they don't post your dialler minutes right away? or, they are fucking you, which I believe. I have been dealing with dialler companies for years, and have only used one that didn't screw me over in one way or another. One. E-mail me if you want info. I am not a shill for them. I don't even use diallers anymore. But the company I was using has been in biz for years, and treated me well. Made lots of cash from them. E-mail me from your domain. [email protected] Last edited by p00p; 01-15-2003 at 10:16 AM..

01-15-2003, 10:19 AM	#8
mrthumbs salad tossing sig guy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: mrthumbs*gmail.com Posts: 11,702	you can say a lot of things about Payserve / Seventeen. Im not so happy with their new system but one thing is for sure: They ALWAYS respond and they DONT shave. Not on Dialers, not on signups. One of the most stand-up most professional companies in this business.

01-15-2003, 10:32 AM	#10
p00p Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: CanaDUH Posts: 5,125	How many dialler companies are going now? From what I understand there are a few, and the rest are resellers?

01-15-2003, 11:32 AM	#11
ControlThy Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,909	I agree with Mrthumbs. BigCash.com - FREE CONTENT

01-15-2003, 11:34 AM	#12
VIP Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 360	Hakuna Matata __________________ E-Mail or ICQ: 99786213

01-15-2003, 11:51 AM	#13
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	i've never had any problems with seventeen.......... __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

01-15-2003, 11:56 AM	#15
LukieD Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: London Posts: 927	I thought from the thread title you were 17 and needed shaving advice

01-15-2003, 12:02 PM	#16
grumpy Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 9,870	I agree with MrThumbs, Seventeen is a thumbsup company __________________ Don't let greediness blur your vision \| You gotta let some shit slide icq - 441-456-888

01-15-2003, 12:03 PM	#17
Sassyass Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,101	What you look'n at...

01-15-2003, 02:44 PM	#19
brutus Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Living in the bottle. Posts: 590	Seventeen / Payserve is a good pro company. No any problems with them.

01-15-2003, 05:06 PM	#20
jacky Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: holland Posts: 187	payserve is a good company and allways pay ontime the probley dont respond becores its 00.58 our here in Holland but if you icq maria ore dennis when you wake up you got a repley

01-16-2003, 01:09 AM	#21
beenus Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 12	Good morning, as head of the Seventeen program I would like to thank you guys for the nice words ;-) The only reason I am able to make up for not responding to you LionKing is that Maria is on a well deserved ski holiday, this means that replies could take a little bit longer, I apologise for the inconvenience. DIALERS About the dialers, please note that all dialers are controlled by NoCreditCard and I will definately pass your comments on. DIALER STATS The dialer stats are tracked real time but always displayed the next day around 1PM CET NEW NEW If you wish to give our program one more try, we will start with trial memberships this week for a few of our sites... Dennis Beentjes __________________ LinkList, 20K and growing!!

01-16-2003, 01:19 AM	#22
Nasty D Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: P-Town Posts: 2,563	senenteen, seems a little young? __________________ Pimp Mandy Mayhem, Tabatha Sweet, Kristi Montana and Lexy Lohan @ Hawt Money

01-16-2003, 01:47 AM	#23
beenus Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 12	As long as it seems young it doesn't matter, all models are 18+. We have been quite fortunate to have this brandname called 'SEVENTEEN' which has been a leading name for nearly 34 years in the Netherlands... As a matter of fact, I somebody isn't promoting our program yet, please have them send me an e-mail at [email protected] or ICQ (100298458) I will give them a special deal TODAY. The only condition is that everybody needs to post their findings at this board ;-) __________________ LinkList, 20K and growing!!

01-16-2003, 05:09 AM	#24
NickB. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 8,855	Damn... Seems like I'm a bit late replying to this thread !! What can I say more?