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signupdamnit 12-10-2010 03:16 PM

Alternate sources needed...

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Porn sites closer to getting '.xxx' Web address

(AP) – 2 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Internet's key oversight body is one step closer to giving pornography websites their own online address.

The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, or ICANN, voted Friday to move ahead on a contract with an American company, which plans to sell domain names ending in a new ".xxx" suffix.

The vote to enter into an agreement with ICM Registry LLC came at an ICANN meeting in Cartagena, Colombia. ICANN voted in June to proceed with the contract — reversing several decisions to reject ICM's application.

The new registry still has other hurdles to clear, however. ICANN also voted Friday to consult on the matter with an advisory committee comprised of government officials worldwide. The committee has raised concerns about a suffix dedicated solely to sites with adult content.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...1a9defc8c6dab4

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So What Exactly Did ICANN Decide About .XXX and New TLDs Today?
Friday, December 10th, 2010

Issues mostly punted to next year.

There’s an old truism amongst lawyers. Show them a one page contract and they’ll tell you it’s rock solid. Show them a long contract and they can start poking holes in it.

That truism carries over to ICANN’s resolutions on .xxx and new top level domain names today. They’re long and therefore say less than usual. There’s a lot of wiggle room.

.XXX - ICANN “intends” to enter into a contract with ICM Registry to run .xxx. Yesterday I predicted it would be full steam ahead on .xxx, but I was wrong. This looks like a slow crawl to the finish line. Mark my words — if .xxx doesn’t get resolved before the Draft Applicant Guidebook, ICM will lay down the legal hammer on ICANN. And that could delay new TLDs.
http://domainnamewire.com/2010/12/10...ew-tlds-today/

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More time is needed to work through some remaining issues, the board of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers board said in a resolution approved at a meeting in Cartagena, Colombia, on Friday.

Specifically, ICANN wants to give its Governmental Advisory Committee (GAC) a chance to weigh in on key issues such as trademark protection, malicious conduct, root-zone scaling, economic impact, geographic names and morality-based objections. The ICANN board expects to meet with the GAC in February of next year.

However, finalization of this mechanism, known formally at the Applicant Guidebook, is now closer than ever, said Peter Dengate Thrush, ICANN board chairman. "I think we have reached a turning point in relation to that program and hopefully the resolution captures that," he said during the board meeting, which was webcast.

"There are some intense and difficult problems ahead of us, but the number of them have shrunk dramatically from when we started this," he added.
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente..._approval.html

Connor 12-10-2010 03:25 PM

At least SOMEONE is paying attention, whoever you are. Thanks for the additional links.

BIGTYMER 12-10-2010 03:37 PM

Great news! :)

Connor 12-10-2010 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BIGTYMER (Post 17765540)
Great news! :)

OMG... lol

Quentin 12-10-2010 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Connor (Post 17765514)
At least SOMEONE is paying attention, whoever you are. Thanks for the additional links.

I do find some encouragement in the fact that Lawley has gone from calling the idea of referring the question back to GAC "unnecessary" (prior to today's meeting) to saying that referring it back to the GAC is what he "hoped for" (after the meeting).

If doublespeak were an Olympic event, Lawley would have more gold medals to hang around his neck than does Michael Phelps.

If .XXX is eventually approved, I will be very, very interested to see how ICM/IFFOR go about making good on statements like:

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For consumers who wish to browse adult entertainment sites, [.XXX] will provide reassurance that they are protected from risk around identity theft, credit card fraud and child abuse images.
So.... no UGC content sites allowed, I presume? I further assume that in order to provide this "reassurance" about such things, IFFOR will be proactively auditing the 2257 records of .XXX domain-holders? And they must be planning to do some measure of credit card transaction risk management that is greater than that currently offered by Paycom, CCBill and other IPSPs? Awesome!

Those things mentioned above must be part of the plan, right? Otherwise, how could they provide any greater assurance that surfers will be "protected" than the current environment offers?

The real answer is, of course, they can't reasonably offer the assurances that they have promised..... Period.

Cyber Fucker 12-10-2010 03:52 PM

Great, so, we have a peace of mind with the .XXX for a year or two...

Connor 12-10-2010 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 17765569)
The real answer is, of course, they can't reasonably offer the assurances that they have promised..... Period.

Or maybe they have their own billing companies picked out, websites that use .XXX will be required to use one of their "approved" billing companies?

What exactly would stop me from setting up a .XXX, processing a bunch of fraudulent charges, and then even if they cut me off... coming up with a new identity and starting all over?

And why would ANYONE from the adult industry support .XXX where there are all kinds of things that could go wrong, all kinds of ways they could lose customers and/or control over their own business, and pretty much no measurable upside to being on a .XXX domain? The good news is, I know of like 2 people who have voiced public support of .XXX, both seems to be in the game with ICM, and that does NOT make up a community by any means ... so I'd expect that G.A.C. might still have some concerns about whether the requirements have REALLY been met. Let's hope.

CyberHustler 12-10-2010 03:57 PM

:1orglaugh

Connor 12-10-2010 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyber Fucker (Post 17765576)
Great, so, we have a peace of mind with the .XXX for a year or two...

This is getting comical... lol... no, we have "peace of mind" until about February. lol

Barefootsies 12-10-2010 04:01 PM

Top notch news.
:pimp

Quentin 12-10-2010 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Connor (Post 17765590)
This is getting comical... lol... no, we have "peace of mind" until about February. lol

I'm thinking it might be time for me to reintroduce my .GiveQMoney sTLD concept. A cleverly worded thread title might be enough to convince people that I already have approval from ICANN....

ThumbLord 12-10-2010 04:11 PM

good idea Quentin.
maybe you could also mentioning in the thread that the reintroduction of TL's TLD concept is in the working, as in TL will be the TLD for all people that like TL ( short for ThumbLords )
looks kewl I think, thumblords.tl

Brad Mitchell 12-10-2010 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Connor (Post 17765053)
All they did was delay things ... looks like the ICANN board wants to negotiate w/ GAC. This does NOT mean that .XXX is beaten, so don't celebrate yet. This is just a procedural delay.

That's how it reads to me, too.

Brad

Barry-xlovecam 12-10-2010 05:03 PM

This is just delay.

Redrob 12-10-2010 05:42 PM

It sure looked like a done deal going into the meeting this morning. As the earlier meetings were pretty one sided in my opinion, I was pleasantly surprised to see our arguments find footing and resonate with the ICANN Board.

GAC consultation is going to be a whole new process which has not yet been formulated.

As the sponsored community, I hope the webmasters band together and provide some meaningful input as this process goes forward.

Now is the time for organizing as the February meeting is going to be in San Francisco according to my understanding. Perhaps, as the sponsored community, we should have a meaningful presence.

will76 12-10-2010 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Redrob (Post 17765791)

Now is the time for organizing as the February meeting is going to be in San Francisco according to my understanding. Perhaps, as the sponsored community, we should have a meaningful presence.

I think some of this is needed when they meet:

http://www1.pictures.fp.zimbio.com/P...7U0YB9ZWKl.jpg

TampaToker 12-10-2010 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Connor (Post 17765053)
All they did was delay things ... looks like the ICANN board wants to negotiate w/ GAC. This does NOT mean that .XXX is beaten, so don't celebrate yet. This is just a procedural delay.

Yeah no shit i seen the thread title then thought wtf. Then i seen who posted it then it made more sense:Oh crap

VS brad 12-10-2010 07:27 PM

Glad to see you updated the title XBIZ. It's still a tough read in its current form, but appreciate the coverage of the news nonetheless. With so much on the line with .XXX it seems a more thorough article really delving into the meat (not just quotes) would be more appropriate.

Thanks to whoever posted those other links.

Brad

Lonny 12-10-2010 07:34 PM

delay or not at least we wont have to hear of this for a year or two.
cross fingers.

fatfoo 12-10-2010 07:40 PM

The decision is to postpone the decision. That is interesting.

HandballJim 12-10-2010 07:49 PM

besides GFY I have not seen a lot of talk about .xxx domains in the domainer community.

fogfever 12-10-2010 08:25 PM

a delay is good news. They have been delaying for years. hopefully will for a few more years.

MaDalton 12-11-2010 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Connor (Post 17765584)
Or maybe they have their own billing companies picked out, websites that use .XXX will be required to use one of their "approved" billing companies?

What exactly would stop me from setting up a .XXX, processing a bunch of fraudulent charges, and then even if they cut me off... coming up with a new identity and starting all over?

And why would ANYONE from the adult industry support .XXX where there are all kinds of things that could go wrong, all kinds of ways they could lose customers and/or control over their own business, and pretty much no measurable upside to being on a .XXX domain? The good news is, I know of like 2 people who have voiced public support of .XXX, both seems to be in the game with ICM, and that does NOT make up a community by any means ... so I'd expect that G.A.C. might still have some concerns about whether the requirements have REALLY been met. Let's hope.



i have asked them all those questions and more in person at their presentation in Vienna - too bad no one besides me was there who did that. but they had their supporters hidden in the audience which argued pro xxx without letting the people know that they are investors in this.


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