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Old 12-08-2010, 02:43 PM   #1
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visa com website closed by hackers

visa dot com website closed by hackers

it is since about 25 minutes, next now after mastercard and paypal and swissbank

The cyberwar have started

let see how long they need to get it back online
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Old 12-08-2010, 02:45 PM   #2
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Owned, nice. Wonder if it's just ddos.
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Old 12-08-2010, 02:45 PM   #3
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Old 12-08-2010, 02:47 PM   #4
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will be hard, our newspapers write from growing group of already 4000 hackers. thats a lot
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that group i mean
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its not 4000 hackers but 4000 kids who installed some backdoor to send some shit to some servers. they have nothing to do with hackers, just stupid ddossers with one clever head. like skinheads and other dangerous groups ... it is not hacked but overloaded ... but nothing to do with 4000 hackers
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Definitely ddos then, explains the lack of a hacked page. They will get it filtered soon enough, nice news blast fun for anon tho.
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Oh wonderful, script kiddies engaging in ddos attacks. That's DEFINITELY making a statement.. Stupid kids.
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hahaha this makes me happy;) These big Corporations can't walk on people all the time, they want to take away our freedom of speech. It will only get worse.
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those 4000 people are just turning there selfs into zombies .. they are all connecting to a hive server and that server is using everyone connected to it to ddos
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hahaha this makes me happy;) These big Corporations can't walk on people all the time, they want to take away our freedom of speech. It will only get worse.
So you think that corporations shouldn't be able to choose who they do business with? If Visa doesn't want to process for a site, then be damned in the name of freedom of speech? Fuck Visa's freedoms, along as you can say and do what you want?

I'd bet that if a bunch of self righteous church going folk hired themselves a bunch of "hackers" to take down your websites that you'd be pretty angry about it.
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So you think that corporations shouldn't be able to choose who they do business with? If Visa doesn't want to process for a site, then be damned in the name of freedom of speech? Fuck Visa's freedoms, along as you can say and do what you want?

I'd bet that if a bunch of self righteous church going folk hired themselves a bunch of "hackers" to take down your websites that you'd be pretty angry about it.
Are being serious or just controversial?

If you were being serious, and you do see your example as being analagous to the situation with visa then i think you should think about it a little more.
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Visa.ca is up here.

And are you sure that Visa.com was hacked? Or did they just follow Mastercard's lead and disable some web services as a preventative / protective measure?

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Are being serious or just controversial?

If you were being serious, and you do see your example as being analagous to the situation with visa then i think you should think about it a little more.
While not exactly the same it's still in the same vein.

Visa did something a group of people apparently doesn't like that was absolutely and completely legal. They stopped offering their services, a service they are not required by any law to offer to anyone. Now a coordinated illegal attack is made against Visa and pornographers are cheering it on.

How is that so much different than a pornsite, offering a completely legal service being attacked by a group of people that don't think it should be able to exercise the right to offer said service coordinating the attack?

I bet there wouldn't be any cheering in that case.
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While not exactly the same it's still in the same vein.

Visa did something a group of people apparently doesn't like that was absolutely and completely legal. They stopped offering their services, a service they are not required by any law to offer to anyone. Now a coordinated illegal attack is made against Visa and pornographers are cheering it on.

How is that so much different than a pornsite, offering a completely legal service being attacked by a group of people that don't think it should be able to exercise the right to offer said service coordinating the attack?

I bet there wouldn't be any cheering in that case.
They just see some movement and jump on the bandwagon because it's "cool". You're trying to reason with a bunch of sheeple.
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visa is up and paypal has been working fine all day for me.

the only one i see down was mastercard.
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its not 4000 hackers but 4000 kids who installed some backdoor to send some shit to some servers. they have nothing to do with hackers, just stupid ddossers with one clever head. like skinheads and other dangerous groups ... it is not hacked but overloaded ... but nothing to do with 4000 hackers
How ever you want to rationalize it... Visa, MasterCard and Paypal are down.
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So you think that corporations shouldn't be able to choose who they do business with? If Visa doesn't want to process for a site, then be damned in the name of freedom of speech? Fuck Visa's freedoms, along as you can say and do what you want?

I'd bet that if a bunch of self righteous church going folk hired themselves a bunch of "hackers" to take down your websites that you'd be pretty angry about it.
Paypal already said they were told by the US Gov to drop them. If they will admit it, I'm sure that's the case with everyone else.
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While not exactly the same it's still in the same vein.

Visa did something a group of people apparently doesn't like that was absolutely and completely legal. They stopped offering their services, a service they are not required by any law to offer to anyone. Now a coordinated illegal attack is made against Visa and pornographers are cheering it on.

How is that so much different than a pornsite, offering a completely legal service being attacked by a group of people that don't think it should be able to exercise the right to offer said service coordinating the attack?

I bet there wouldn't be any cheering in that case.

Depends on how you WANT to look at it. In your analogy the persons hacking my adult site to stop people exercising their 'legal right/choice to watch porn would be the pretty much the same as people with power ordering/controlling visa, paypal et al to stop providing services to wiki with the intention of preventing people exercising their legal right/choice to read what the fuck is really going on, they are trying to prevent WL from publishing things people want to read about, things that the people should have the right to read about - if they so wish.

How would you feel if you had info about a company in this industry who were shaving others, and up to all manner of fucked up shit, thinking they are above reproach and that nobody would ever find out, and even if they did find out they were confident that nobody would dare confront them with it, they were safe in the knowledge they could shut people up if they so wished since they controlled all means of communication, and free speach on the boards was just an illusion over issues that were not relevent to them.

However, you did find out, and you tried to post about it here on GFY trying to help others find out about what is going on behind the scenes.

After you post you find that your account is banned and the post deleted. You find out that the company has influenced/persuaded gfy to withdraw their services with regard to you. The same for all other forums that you have tried to post on. These forums are now working with (controlled by)the bad guys in my opinion, i'm sure that would be your opinion too in this scenario.

Then a couple of guys on here whom had read your post try to help you out by causing the forum some pain by which ever method they could, in the hope they could help you out and make a difference, pay you back for sticking your neck out and trying to help them, maybe even make the forums think twice about assisting bad guys fucking you and all other webmasters over in future. Would you call those couple of guys 'the bad guys'? deriding their methods as childish and lacking in talent? are they in the wrong because they have operated outside of the rules of the forum ? or would you be cheering those couple of guys on?

Sorry if i've not expressed that as clearly as i should, it's 5;14am here and i've just had a very long session on my ps3.
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They just see some movement and jump on the bandwagon because it's "cool". You're trying to reason with a bunch of sheeple.
I love your sense of irony.
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http://paypal.com/ is down here too. MC seems fine now.

It's not just you! http://paypal.com looks down from here.
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DDOSing visa.com / mastercard.com websites will likely have little effect, because most all credit card / debit transactions are performed through 3rd party gateways, proprietary networks, etc.

To have any real adverse effect on the likes of VISA / MasterCard would take a concerted attack on the various merchant bank gateways and internal networks... would likely require hacking routers and physical access to infrastructure - that's a far higher bar than ddosing.

Bottom line is that the ddos attacks likely make many feel as if they're "fighting the man", but the reality is such ddos attacks alone will likely to have little to no real impact.

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Paypal already said they were told by the US Gov to drop them. If they will admit it, I'm sure that's the case with everyone else.
Bedier?s response: ?Because the U.S. Government told us it (Wikileaks) is illegal?.

http://gadgetsteria.com/2010/12/08/p...pal-wikileaks/

said in a video interview .. very clearly .. now don`t expect the gov to admit it .. they are in fact trying to find away to blame it on al-quaida ...
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How ever you want to rationalize it... Visa, MasterCard and Paypal are down.
what you mean? chinesse people will beat whole world with the hats once, and not cause they are army generals, but they are many, same as those ddossers. just kids, not hackers man ... and they will keep doing it as they feel like they are something special now, maybe for the first and last time in their lives
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Old 12-09-2010, 06:32 AM   #50
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Visa did something a group of people apparently doesn't like that was absolutely and completely legal. They stopped offering their services, a service they are not required by any law to offer to anyone.
Oh!

I thought the American government sent them a letter telling them to stop and they did.

Thanks for spreading the truth.

I see America is holding the World Press Freedom day. Not at all ironic.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2010/12/152465.htm

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