domain transfer...need some help pls - GoFuckYourself.com

alex79 · 01-15-2003, 04:51 AM

hi,
i have a site on a free host with about 30k/daily and i want move to my own domain with a payhost..
is guess first i should bild the site on the payhost and after that contact all traders to change the old URL to new URL

the problem is that i have over 2k/day from SE (google&yahoo) and i don't want to lose this great source of traffic..if i redirect the traffic i think at the next update google will blacklist me, or worst, the present freehost will delete my site..

what can u recomand me to do for not lose my traffic? any advice will be welcome?

thanks very much

iroc409 · 01-15-2003, 04:57 AM

we just moved a bunch of server stuffs without any problem.

as long as you keep your stuff the same, ie:

if server1 gallery location is:
http://www.domain.com/location/to/your/gallery.html

then you must keep it that way on the next server. move everything over, then change your nameservers with your registrar. when you change your nameservers, have your new server ops change your domain stuffs locally. leave the stuff on the old server at this time. then, as the dns propogates, it will just naturally migrate to the new server, and nobody should really be able to tell, and the tgps shouldn't care, unless you change content.

when the dns has fully propogated (generally 24-48 hours, but i'd go 3-4 days instead), you can get rid of the old stuffs.

that's how it's usually done, to my knowledge. i haven't had any problems. someone correct me if i'm wrong.

LiveDose · 01-15-2003, 05:00 AM

what he said. If you have mirrors of your site on both hosts you'll have no down time...

alex79 · 01-15-2003, 05:04 AM

iroc409 thanks for your response but i don't have a gallery, i have an adult site and the actual location of this site is htt://mysite.freehost.com (not http://www.mydomain.com) and that's why i can't change the name servers...actualy i don't have my own domain name..the url is a subdomain of the freehost.

so, i want move my site from http://mysite.freehost.com to http://www.mydomain.com

LiveDose · 01-15-2003, 05:06 AM

keep that site and start a new one... That kind of transfer can't be done...

iroc409 · 01-15-2003, 05:08 AM

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Originally posted by alex79
iroc409 thanks for your response but i don't have a gallery, i have an adult site and the actual location of this site is htt://mysite.freehost.com (not http://www.mydomain.com) and that's why i can't change the name servers...actualy i don't have my own domain name..the url is a subdomain of the freehost.

so, i want move my site from http://mysite.freehost.com to http://www.mydomain.com

hmm... i re-read your post and feared that. for as cheap as domain names are, you should have had 3 of them

. i don't know about the rules of the porn industry, but generally redirects wouldn't be so horrifying, and since they're just SE stuffs, i doubt it would really be a huge issue. people use redirects for that kinda stuff on SE's all the time. you can make a redirect nearly transparent to the user. if it was anything but porn, i would say use the redirect and do it that way, then google will re-crawl your site and post the new stuff. you'll have the traffic and all from the redirects. but, i'd probably get a second opinion on the redirect from someone with more experience in porn.

alex79 · 01-15-2003, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LiveDose
keep that site and start a new one...

alex79 · 01-15-2003, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LiveDose
keep that site and start a new one...

easy to say, hard to do...i've worked on this site 5 month to bild the traffic and now the freehost start redirect and i lose my traffic..what can i do to limit this traffic loss?

iroc409 · 01-15-2003, 05:18 AM

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Originally posted by alex79

easy to say, hard to do...i've worked on this site 5 month to bild the traffic and now the freehost start redirect and i lose my traffic..what can i do to limit this traffic loss?

dance.

phogirl69 · 01-15-2003, 05:30 AM

On the page where you are receiving the SE traffic, just put a warningpage and 'Enter Here" and link that to your new site on your payhost! I think some freehosts don't allow you to redirect traffic or whatever in their TOS, so this is probably the best way. And then just upload everything to your payhost and contact your trades

alex79 · 01-15-2003, 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by phogirl69
On the page where you are receiving the SE traffic, just put a warningpage and 'Enter Here" and link that to your new site on your payhost! I think some freehosts don't allow you to redirect traffic or whatever in their TOS, so this is probably the best way. And then just upload everything to your payhost and contact your trades

yes, but if i transform the page (index.html) to a warning page i think at the next update of google i lose my rank becouse i lose my link popularity and the words from page...i'm right?

phogirl69 · 01-15-2003, 05:44 AM

Oops, didn't think of that. I can't guarantee anything, but to increase your chances of keeping some of your se terms, keep your metas and keywords exactly the same? Does your old site have a warning page at all?? If it does, then just link the "enter here" part to your new site? I'm sure your new site will have a good ranking in google soon with all your trades linking to you, so I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too. At any rate, it's going to be better to be on a pay host than a free host.

If your index.html is just your mainpage... well... I really don't know then

alex79 · 01-15-2003, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by phogirl69

If your index.html is just your mainpage... well... I really don't know then

yes, my index.html is my mainpage (i don't have warning page); thanks anyway, anybody any more ideas?

LiveDose · 01-15-2003, 05:55 AM

I don't think any answer is going to make you happy. Start a new site on a pay host and take this as a lesson...

What do want us to say?!

gothweb · 01-15-2003, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by alex79

yes, my index.html is my mainpage (i don't have warning page); thanks anyway, anybody any more ideas?

Work in parallel, slowly mocing things over to the new site. Try to get your trades going in to the new site, and in fact everyone you can who links to it. Keep your freehost site up, but link it heavily to the new site. Slowly, the new page will start getting the traffic in, and the link popularity. The total traffic shouldn't dip if you are careful. Eventually, you can pretty much phase out the old site. The lesson: Don't bother with a free host.

Gemini · 01-15-2003, 06:05 AM

First... ALWAYS use a warning page to cut that problem out!

Then, leave your index page basically the same and add the link like Phogirl said.

If that won't work, slowly change each of your gallery or whatever pages over to one that says, This Page Has Changed Locations... Click here to go there.

Its hard to say exactly what to do without seeing the site.

Basher · 01-15-2003, 06:14 AM

Place this in your metta tags of your old site

<META HTTP-EQUIV="Refresh" CONTENT="3;URL=http://www.Your new webpage url.html">

This will redirect people who visit your site to your new one the 3 indicates how many seconds before it refreshes so set it as 1 I havent tried 0 so i dont know if it works hope this will help you.

01-15-2003, 04:51 AM	#1
alex79 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: france Posts: 996	domain transfer...need some help pls hi, i have a site on a free host with about 30k/daily and i want move to my own domain with a payhost.. is guess first i should bild the site on the payhost and after that contact all traders to change the old URL to new URL the problem is that i have over 2k/day from SE (google&yahoo) and i don't want to lose this great source of traffic..if i redirect the traffic i think at the next update google will blacklist me, or worst, the present freehost will delete my site.. what can u recomand me to do for not lose my traffic? any advice will be welcome? thanks very much

01-15-2003, 04:57 AM	#2
iroc409 Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: midwest side, yo Posts: 4,728	we just moved a bunch of server stuffs without any problem. as long as you keep your stuff the same, ie: if server1 gallery location is: http://www.domain.com/location/to/your/gallery.html then you must keep it that way on the next server. move everything over, then change your nameservers with your registrar. when you change your nameservers, have your new server ops change your domain stuffs locally. leave the stuff on the old server at this time. then, as the dns propogates, it will just naturally migrate to the new server, and nobody should really be able to tell, and the tgps shouldn't care, unless you change content. when the dns has fully propogated (generally 24-48 hours, but i'd go 3-4 days instead), you can get rid of the old stuffs. that's how it's usually done, to my knowledge. i haven't had any problems. someone correct me if i'm wrong. __________________ <a href="http://www.iroc409.com/"><img src="http://www.iroc409.com/adv/120x60.gif" border=0></a> icq: 1 7 6 4 2 0 9 6 0 Gallery templates for ONLY $25! w00t!

01-15-2003, 05:00 AM	#3
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01-15-2003, 05:06 AM	#5
LiveDose Show Yer Tits! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere Out there... Posts: 25,792	keep that site and start a new one... That kind of transfer can't be done... __________________ Scammer Alert: acer19 acer [email protected] [email protected] Money stolen using PayPal

01-15-2003, 05:30 AM	#10
phogirl69 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,330	On the page where you are receiving the SE traffic, just put a warningpage and 'Enter Here" and link that to your new site on your payhost! I think some freehosts don't allow you to redirect traffic or whatever in their TOS, so this is probably the best way. And then just upload everything to your payhost and contact your trades Last edited by phogirl69; 01-15-2003 at 05:32 AM..

01-15-2003, 05:04 AM	#4
alex79 Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: france Posts: 996	iroc409 thanks for your response but i don't have a gallery, i have an adult site and the actual location of this site is htt://mysite.freehost.com (not http://www.mydomain.com) and that's why i can't change the name servers...actualy i don't have my own domain name..the url is a subdomain of the freehost. so, i want move my site from http://mysite.freehost.com to http://www.mydomain.com

01-15-2003, 05:44 AM	#12
phogirl69 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 3,330	Oops, didn't think of that. I can't guarantee anything, but to increase your chances of keeping some of your se terms, keep your metas and keywords exactly the same? Does your old site have a warning page at all?? If it does, then just link the "enter here" part to your new site? I'm sure your new site will have a good ranking in google soon with all your trades linking to you, so I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too. At any rate, it's going to be better to be on a pay host than a free host. If your index.html is just your mainpage... well... I really don't know then Last edited by phogirl69; 01-15-2003 at 05:45 AM..

01-15-2003, 05:55 AM	#14
LiveDose Show Yer Tits! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Somewhere Out there... Posts: 25,792	I don't think any answer is going to make you happy. Start a new site on a pay host and take this as a lesson... What do want us to say?! __________________ Scammer Alert: acer19 acer [email protected] [email protected] Money stolen using PayPal

01-15-2003, 06:05 AM	#16
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01-15-2003, 06:14 AM	#17
Basher Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Uk_dude Posts: 1,168	Place this in your metta tags of your old site <META HTTP-EQUIV="Refresh" CONTENT="3;URL=http://www.Your new webpage url.html"> This will redirect people who visit your site to your new one the 3 indicates how many seconds before it refreshes so set it as 1 I havent tried 0 so i dont know if it works hope this will help you. __________________ my bum itches