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				Google Spot Lost - Reasons
			 
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			My site was between 1-5 at some keywords at google. Then I lost those spots suddenly. Only at google.com. At local google sites like .fr or .uk I still have my spots but as you can imagine the most of my traffic is gone. I am wondering what would cause that. I have a little bit too much banners at the top of the page but it was always like that. Though if it is the situation I will remove most of them. I checked my links if there are any dead links or suspicous links marked by firefox. So far I found 1 dead link and removed it. I will fill out reconsideration for my site at google but I want to be sure I would have done everything at my side before do that. If anyone can give tips about this it would be great. 
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		 It has been 4 days now. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 build links. You should always be building links. Just because you got first page doesnt mean you should stop linkbuilding. When you stop your competitors are still getting links 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 - put more pages on the site (and structure the internal linking hierarchy properly) 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
	- optimize/clean html - set all sponsor links to rel="nofollow" - build more 1way backlinks - more text links to sponsors on proper places instead of intrusive banners could bring you more clicks. cheers  | 
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		 reason? google found a better site to list.... so get back to work.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Did it disappear completely?  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Sometimes when that happens it just reappears in number 1 after a few days. I would wait a little longer before submitting for reconsideration, Google always find a way to use that kind information against you, could bite you in the ass.  | 
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		 I am at 153th spot now. I am also keeping my old spots at local google sites like google.fr, google.co.uk. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			I will not submit any reconsideration form before at least one week. In the mean time I will do the suggestions. Thanks guys for your time and suggestions. I really appreciate it. 
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		 I lost about 500 spots for some big terms recently with a site about a week ago.  Maybe its related, though I am not ranked for other google countries 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 do you have a site map that is google compatible added to google webmasters tools? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Nope. I will create one though 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I had a site on page 1 for 6 months. And then bam! Onto page 11 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 It may be a combination of an over-optimization penalty but one that is written into a new Algorithm. I lost some major keywords recently also and I don't think they're coming back. The site is strong and none of my other pages or keywords got touched, they're strong as ever. Also, my page didn't get delisted, only certain keywords. IMO this is just another Algorithm update. If it stays this way in another month, I'll have to re optimize the keyword structure on the page. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Is your domain a .com or something else? Almost looks like you've been turned into a regional site as opposed to a global site. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 It's unfortunate that you lost your 1-5 Google spots. It's hard to tell which reasons lead to the lower ranking. It could be because: 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			1) Keyword density was too high 2) Duplicate content 3) Banned words / phrases 4) PR decreased / less backlinks 5) Human checked your site and didn't like it for some reason (instead of bot) 
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		 Sorry to hear that. I had my spots for almost 3 years. the annoying part is I can get go between 1-10 or even over 10 in time. But from 1-5 to 150-200 in one second is beyond me. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 And yeah I decided not to do reconsideration at least for awhile. 
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		 Well I cleaned my page a little bit. Removed all dead links. Removed 1/3 of banners. Added rel="nofollow" to my affiliate links.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
			And it actually paid up I got my spots back like an hour ago I guess. They were still gone when I went to bed and after I woke up they were back. From now on I will manage my site much more seriously. Don't want this to happen ever again. Again I want to say thank you to everyone who shared their comments, suggestions and tips. You guys were incredibly helpful. 
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		 Maybe your link appeared on a spam page or something. Google doesn't like people trying to fool it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 I've thought about this quite often. Everybody who makes money from the internet is effectively employed by Google, and yet Google is free to screw us and make us homeless overnight.  | 
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		 Well spots are gone once again. This is getting annoying. I would understand if they are gone for good but getting spots back and loosing again in 5 days is hard to understand. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I am wondering if iframe ad at top of my page would cause this. The only change I made after getting my spots back was adding that iframe to my page. It sells good but if that is the issue I can remove it 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 That happens plenty to some of my sites as well.. I'd guess they are temporary penalties.. for what reason exactly, only google knows for sure. :P 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Yes it could,it is well know how iframes are bad for seo since google bot cant read them and then google think how you doing blackhat seo. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Thanks for tip. That iframe is gone for good this time. Shame though because it had kick-ass ratio. But getting back 75% of my traffic is kinda more important :P 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Move more text to the top and the banners lower.  Make 1 change at a time and wait till site gets reindexed and see if position moves. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 Well I lost almost 90% of my google traffic now. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			My site, www.lesbianbondagelinks.com used to get number one spot at "lesbian bondage" and top 5 at "lesbian bdsm" and "lesbian domination", etc. And I was getting around 1400-1500 unique from google. Now I am getting maybe 50 :P. I am wondering what should I do to get it back? I don't have any time to get into SEO stuff by myself because of other works I have to do. Though I still want to get back my $1000-1200 monthly earning. Any suggestions? Should I hire some people? Or should I just dump/sell the site? 
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			 Porn is Dead. Move along. 
			
		
			
				
			
			
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		 its a fucking 1 page link farm. ROFL 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			 I'm clockin' ya, Versace shade watchin' ya 
			
		
			
				
			
			
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		 Does OP still post here? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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