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  • MetaMan
    I AM WEB 2.0
    • Jan 2003
    • 28682

    #1

    Google sandboxed: can you get your site out of the "box"?

    I am noooooo expert in google.

    basically "i" have a site thats forum script got hacked and was sending out spam to people from my site around 1 year ago.

    since then it has been sandboxed. the site is high quality, lots of content, quality inbound links, no link spamming or anything.

    what steps would i take to get it "out of the sandbox"?
  • Agent 488
    Registered User
    • Feb 2006
    • 22511

    #2
    is it still indexed? does your domain show in google or nothing?

    make sure it's clean - add it to google webmaster tools - do a reconsideration request explain what happened and what you did to clean it up.

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    • Juicy D. Links
      So Fucking Banned
      • Apr 2001
      • 122992

      #3
      been sb'd for 1 year already?

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      • Barefootsies
        Choice is an Illusion
        • Feb 2005
        • 42635

        #4
        Originally posted by MetaMan
        what steps would i take to get it "out of the sandbox"?
        Contact Google via webmaster tools and explain the situation to the rep.

        Submit a re-inclusion request. If all is as you advertised, should be relisted in short order for your pleasure.
        Last edited by Barefootsies; 12-06-2010, 02:42 PM.
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        • bns666
          Confirmed Fetishist
          • Mar 2005
          • 11555

          #5
          thats not sandbox, thats penalty
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          • MetaMan
            I AM WEB 2.0
            • Jan 2003
            • 28682

            #6
            Originally posted by Agent 488
            is it still indexed? does your domain show in google or nothing?

            make sure it's clean - add it to google webmaster tools - do a reconsideration request explain what happened and what you did to clean it up.
            i will find out thanks!

            Originally posted by Juicy D. Links
            been sb'd for 1 year already?
            its not my site but thought itd be easier to explain it as "mine". but for him over 1 year.

            ok just heard it is indexed still. so i guess its not sand boxed? but after this hit it dropped 80% of the listings.

            Originally posted by Barefootsies
            Contact Google via webmaster tools and explain the situation to the rep.

            Submit a re-inclusion request. If all is as you advertised, should be relisted in short order for your pleasure.
            ok will do thanks!


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            thanks thank and thanks
            Last edited by MetaMan; 12-06-2010, 02:45 PM.

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            • Phoenix
              BACON BACON BACON
              • Nov 2002
              • 35475

              #7
              i have a site that lost ranking when i tried to increase my inbound links.
              after i stopped trying to do it...the rankings came back
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              • MetaMan
                I AM WEB 2.0
                • Jan 2003
                • 28682

                #8
                " yeah it's still indexed, everypage on the site is indexed, however 80% of the rankings are gone and 20% of the rankings are still there but on pages 2 down"

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                • MetaMan
                  I AM WEB 2.0
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 28682

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Phoenix
                  i have a site that lost ranking when i tried to increase my inbound links.
                  after i stopped trying to do it...the rankings came back
                  he also said it could be due to over optimizing/age filter.

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                  • carzygirls
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 857

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MetaMan
                    he also said it could be due to over optimizing/age filter.
                    Could be a number of issues as small as flash up at the top of main page, a scroll box, etc.

                    I would list all the components that make up the index and splash page if applicable. Highest priority with items at top of page. Then google whatever it is and add "google penalty" and see what topics come up.

                    Another option is to go to google forum and post your question. Then ignore everybody except a guy named Phil who is an expert on penalized sites.

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                    • Agent 488
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 22511

                      #11
                      do the reconsideration. say you got hacked blah blah.

                      in the mean time start doing some steady link building, but do it with a wide variety keywords as to make it seem more natural. also prune the site of any dead links as linking to dead sites sets off a trigger than your site is dead, clean up any keyword stuffing, stupid shit like hidden text, also make sure not linking to banned/malware sites. see what happens.

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                      • ideaworx
                        GOW Technician
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 1132

                        #12
                        Originally posted by carzygirls
                        Could be a number of issues as small as flash up at the top of main page, a scroll box, etc.
                        True that page peels can affect your rank? Appearing right after the opening body.

                        Thanks in advance
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                        • Phoenix
                          BACON BACON BACON
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 35475

                          #13
                          since we are actually talking shop in here

                          what is the difference between a google referral and google organic

                          i dont buy traffic from google for this site...but i see them sending me referral traffic
                          as well as alexa...and a couple other spots

                          is it just how they choose to record how they send out hits?
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                          • CYF
                            Coupon Guru
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 10973

                            #14
                            that sounds like a penalty to me.

                            You can use the webmaster tools that google provides to ask for reinclusion / reconsideration.
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                            • marketsmart
                              HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 20419

                              #15
                              i just got 200 domains de indexed for being a naughty boy...

                              just be happy you only got boxxxed...

                              thats easy to fix....




                              .

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                              • Agent 488
                                Registered User
                                • Feb 2006
                                • 22511

                                #16
                                http://www.google.com/support/analyt...n&answer=55587

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                                • Agent 488
                                  Registered User
                                  • Feb 2006
                                  • 22511

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by marketsmart
                                  i just got 200 domains de indexed for being a naughty boy...

                                  just be happy you only got boxxxed...

                                  thats easy to fix....




                                  .
                                  i think i just bought one of them.

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                                  • 96ukssob
                                    So Fucking Banananananas
                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 12991

                                    #18
                                    try google.com/webmasters I had a friend get a site "fixed" using this
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                                    • marketsmart
                                      HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                      • Dec 2004
                                      • 20419

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Agent 488
                                      i think i just bought one of them.
                                      then you are in luck because if you can prove change in ownership, google will usually re index...







                                      .

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                                      • Agent 488
                                        Registered User
                                        • Feb 2006
                                        • 22511

                                        #20
                                        since we are here - i bought a mainstream exact match domain that i can't get indexed - it's been two weeks now.

                                        in webmaster tools shows no errors but i think it dropped because it was penalized but can't find any info on it.

                                        could just let it go but had content made up for it already. anyone ever recover a domain in this situation?

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                                        • Si
                                          Such Fun!
                                          • Feb 2008
                                          • 13900

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Agent 488
                                          is it still indexed? does your domain show in google or nothing?

                                          make sure it's clean - add it to google webmaster tools - do a reconsideration request explain what happened and what you did to clean it up.
                                          Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                          Contact Google via webmaster tools and explain the situation to the rep.

                                          Submit a re-inclusion request. If all is as you advertised, should be relisted in short order for your pleasure.
                                          Originally posted by Agent 488
                                          do the reconsideration. say you got hacked blah blah.

                                          in the mean time start doing some steady link building, but do it with a wide variety keywords as to make it seem more natural. also prune the site of any dead links as linking to dead sites sets off a trigger than your site is dead, clean up any keyword stuffing, stupid shit like hidden text, also make sure not linking to banned/malware sites. see what happens.
                                          Originally posted by CYF
                                          that sounds like a penalty to me.

                                          You can use the webmaster tools that google provides to ask for reinclusion / reconsideration.
                                          Originally posted by bossku69
                                          try google.com/webmasters I had a friend get a site "fixed" using this
                                          What they said,

                                          I know a few people who have done this and had success

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                                          • Barefootsies
                                            Choice is an Illusion
                                            • Feb 2005
                                            • 42635

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Si
                                            I know a few people who have done this and had success
                                            Myself included.
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                                            • moeloubani
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Dec 2007
                                              • 4235

                                              #23
                                              a lot of the time its the week to week and month to month google swing

                                              not to mention the day to day google swing

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                                              • carzygirls
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Oct 2010
                                                • 857

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ideaworx
                                                True that page peels can affect your rank? Appearing right after the opening body.

                                                Thanks in advance
                                                I don't know. I've received penalties and fixed and both causes were because google could not read the code. One was a large flash mock up on home page and the other a scroll box on the splash page. If google can't read it the algorithm believes site is trying to hide something and shoots the site way to the back.

                                                Common checks to see if you've been penalized is to type in the search term you once had and then click advanced searches and expand to 100 per page. Check page 10 first and see if you've been 950'd and then work towards the front.

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                                                • Rick Diculous
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2008
                                                  • 2384

                                                  #25
                                                  The sandbox usually last a couple of days to a week, never lasts a whole year. Never hear of those penalties tho

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