...lineage...in the sense that they have a common ancestor. Birds in general are evolved dinosaurs.
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No birds are not evolved dinosaurs. They came from the same ancestor. Just because bread and muffins both use flour to make them it doesn't mean the bread came from the muffin or vice versa.
Humans also share a common ancestor with dinosaurs. Does that mean we are evolved from T-Rexs?
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My daughter told me at age 6 she wanted to be a paleontologist and that prehistoric dinosaurs were related to modern birdsCarbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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I guess the documentary I just watched...with scientists...using fossil records to explain step by step how birds evolved from Dinosaurs...don't know their ass from a hole in the ground...but you do.No birds are not evolved dinosaurs. They came from the same ancestor. Just because bread and muffins both use flour to make them it doesn't mean the bread came from the muffin or vice versa.
Humans also share a common ancestor with dinosaurs. Does that mean we are evolved from T-Rexs?
Learn before you start spouting this 5th grade science LOL
Excuse me...if I choose to believe them over you...thank you very much.
BTW...I knew of the connection of birds with Dinosaurs...what I did not know was the specific connection between T Rex and the Chicken...which is the reason I posted.Last edited by theking; 12-04-2010, 01:35 PM.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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here's where it's fucked up... some scientist left some T Rex fossils parts sitting in a beaker filled with acid... forgot about it, went and got a BJ or whatever... when the scientist came back there was 'tissue' in the beaker...I guess the documentary I just watched...with scientists...using fossil records to explain step by step how birds evolved from Dinosaurs...don't know their ass from a hole in the ground...but you do.
Excuse me...if I choose to believe them over you...thank you very much.
BTW...I knew of the connection of birds with Dinosaurs...what I did not know was the connection between T Rex and the Chicken...which is the reason I posted.
like WTF! right? so anyway that's what they used to figure out the 'chicken' history'Comment
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Why do you think we have "tailbones"?No birds are not evolved dinosaurs. They came from the same ancestor. Just because bread and muffins both use flour to make them it doesn't mean the bread came from the muffin or vice versa.
Humans also share a common ancestor with dinosaurs. Does that mean we are evolved from T-Rexs?.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/25/science/25dino.htmlI guess the documentary I just watched...with scientists...using fossil records to explain step by step how birds evolved from Dinosaurs...don't know their ass from a hole in the ground...but you do.
Excuse me...if I choose to believe them over you...thank you very much.
BTW...I knew of the connection of birds with Dinosaurs...what I did not know was the specific connection between T Rex and the Chicken...which is the reason I posted.Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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used to walk on all fours evidenced by our sinuses draining 'upward' as opposed to 'downward'
had we been designed from the jump to walk 'upright' our sinuses would drain downward from a standing position. the way it is now our sinuses will only drain downward if our heads are hanging, such as being on all fours.Comment
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Yeah...I don't know how I missed out on T-Rex and the chicken...but I did.When you're running down my country hoss...you're walking on the fighting side of me!
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I don't care what your documentary told you, sometimes the easiest way to explain gravity to a child is to use Newton's theory of gravity even though Newton's theory isn't right.
Birds and dinosaurs while they probably share a common ancestor, did not evolve from one another (bird from dino).Comment
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That doesn't make sense. The common ancestor of dinosaurs and other reptiles is very far back, hundreds of millions of years ago before the beginning of the Triassic epoch. Birds evolved very late in the Cretaceous epoch near the end of the dinaosaur age approx. 65 million years ago. So it is far more likey that birds evolved directly from certain species of smallish feathered dinosaurs, rather than from a common ancestor far, far back in the age of more primitive reptiles.I don't care what your documentary told you, sometimes the easiest way to explain gravity to a child is to use Newton's theory of gravity even though Newton's theory isn't right.
Birds and dinosaurs while they probably share a common ancestor, did not evolve from one another (bird from dino).Comment
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Birds are actually considered the only surviving dinosaurs. Feathers are just mutated scales.“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”Comment
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“If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”Comment
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I took my daughter to Disneyland for her 8th birthday, we stopped at the LaBrea Tar Pits museum. She loved it and I found it very interesting, I didn't know that horses were here before Columbus and the Spanish, but they were.
We both learned a lot that day, but my daughter was commenting on everything that she had learned in school on the subject, it was like having my own tour guide.
About the evolution of birds, we only know for sure what can be proven and some things that have been proven, have later been proven wrongLast edited by Vendzilla; 12-05-2010, 12:03 PM.Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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First bird http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/diapsid...aeopteryx.html
150 million years ago
And people say that the ones they evolved from were around 100 million years ago...but how can you evolve from something that comes after you? Impossible!
Edit: even earlier http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...years-ago.html and dinosaurs were just around since 250 million years ago so how could there be a first 'bird' from a dinosaur? They share a common ancestor like I said but birds didn't evolve from dinosaurs.Last edited by moeloubani; 12-05-2010, 12:34 PM.Comment
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The archeopteryx in the first link could have evolved from dinosaurs that existed before it, and probably did taking into consideration the shape of hip bone and other morphological factors. It also may have been an evolutionary dead end meaning that it was not necessarilly ancestral to modern birds. The second example is not a bird at all- the article linked uses quotes to call it a "bird"- but a flying reptile. There were a lot of flying reptiles that existed at the same time as the dinosaurs, but they weren't birds either.First bird http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/diapsid...aeopteryx.html
150 million years ago
And people say that the ones they evolved from were around 100 million years ago...but how can you evolve from something that comes after you? Impossible!
Edit: even earlier http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...years-ago.html and dinosaurs were just around since 250 million years ago so how could there be a first 'bird' from a dinosaur? They share a common ancestor like I said but birds didn't evolve from dinosaurs.Comment
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I wonder if you ate T Rex would it taste like chicken?Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
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Or it could have evolved from one just like the one in the second link which isn't a dinosaur at all but an offshoot of what probably at one time one species but went on to form many. Something that is much more likely and more reasonable than just saying 'oh maybe it could have come from an earlier dinosaur'.The archeopteryx in the first link could have evolved from dinosaurs that existed before it, and probably did taking into consideration the shape of hip bone and other morphological factors. It also may have been an evolutionary dead end meaning that it was not necessarilly ancestral to modern birds. The second example is not a bird at all- the article linked uses quotes to call it a "bird"- but a flying reptile. There were a lot of flying reptiles that existed at the same time as the dinosaurs, but they weren't birds either.Comment
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It is neither more reasonable nor more likely that the archeopteryx had anything to do with that previously referenced ancient flying reptile or anything similar to it. Proto-birds and modern birds share a number of very specific characteristics with dinosaurs which were themselves a distinct offshoot from other reptiles. Birds most morphologically resemble dinosaurs as opposed to other retiles, specifically coelurosaurian dinosaurs based on many factors including the shape of their hips, the use of feathers and many other elements. Of course, more evidence may indeed shed more light on the details of bird evolution, but the weight of evidence amonst paleontologists at this point in 2010 is for a direct dinosaur to bird lineage. As it is with science, new evidence may shed more light. An interesting article: http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/diapsids/avians.htmlOr it could have evolved from one just like the one in the second link which isn't a dinosaur at all but an offshoot of what probably at one time one species but went on to form many. Something that is much more likely and more reasonable than just saying 'oh maybe it could have come from an earlier dinosaur'.Last edited by Jim_Gunn; 12-05-2010, 01:44 PM.Comment
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Debateable but I will give you this one. Well done sir.It is neither more reasonable nor more likely that the archeopteryx had anything to do with that previously referenced ancient flying reptile or anything similar to it. Proto-birds and modern birds share a number of very specific characteristics with dinosaurs which were themselves a distinct offshoot from other reptiles. Birds most morphologically resemble dinosaurs as opposed to other retiles, specifically coelurosaurian dinosaurs based on many factors including the shape of their hips, the use of feathers and many other elements. Of course, more evidence may indeed shed more light on the details of bird evolution, but the weight of evidence amonst paleontologists at this point in 2010 is for a direct dinosaur to bird lineage. As it is with science, new evidence may shed more light. An interesting article: http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/diapsids/avians.htmlComment


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