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  • Andy22
    Registered User
    • Sep 2010
    • 78

    #16
    youtube.com/user/MrVallexxx#p/u/8/oArRaLsRMBg (wont let me post links yet - copy and paste that)

    found the full documentary. Pretty interesting tbh. good watch.
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    • mineistaken
      See signature :)
      • Apr 2007
      • 29656

      #17
      Originally posted by DaddyHalbucks
      The most ruthless mafia in the world is the Russian mob.
      albanians are very cruel

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      • cykoe6
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2005
        • 4499

        #18
        There is so much stupidity in this thread that it makes my head hurt.
        бабки, шлюхи, сила

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        • HandballJim
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2008
          • 4024

          #19
          Originally posted by mineistaken
          albanians are very cruel
          yeah hello I live in the Bronx
          HOW I MAKE LOTS OF $$$

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          • Agent 488
            Registered User
            • Feb 2006
            • 22511

            #20

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            • Magix
              Confirmed User
              • Jun 2006
              • 2616

              #21
              Mafia is Mafia and it doesn't matter Russian, English, Italian get every country in the world and you get their mafia, well except Us there is every kind of it :D
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              • Linguist
                Confirmed User
                • Apr 2004
                • 1706

                #22
                grumpy... that's not why russians will dominate. That's why the country has always been in shit (since the start of history), is in shit and will be in shit.

                And I'm saying that with being born in the USSR.
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                • SallyRand
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 3487

                  #23
                  Originally posted by cykoe6
                  There is so much stupidity in this thread that it makes my head hurt.
                  OK; please correct the "stupidity" for us then!

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                  • minicivan
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 943

                    #24
                    Originally posted by SallyRand
                    OK; please correct the "stupidity" for us then!
                    The group referred to above (no i didn't watch the video) are called Vore v Zkone. Thieves in Law (not thieves "by" law). They are a relic from the past, specifically from the prison system and gulags of Stalin. They are the closest thing in Russia to a structured mafia system and they are nothing today but a faint shadow of what they were. They are obligated to spend the majority of thier lives in prison and their strict codes of no drugs, don't fuck with families, don't own money or property etc etc etc was put to bed by constant fighting with other Russian criminal groups that came up in the 90s who just didn't give a fuck about anyone or their rules. Apart from Vore V Zkone, there is no structured mafia network in Russia comparable to the Italian concept of Locosa Nostra or "Mafia" as people imagine it to be. Russia has, since the dissolution of the Soviet Union been nothing but vast numbers of criminal gangs who continually rose and fell from whatever power they had leveraging whatever power or connections they had, while they had them. Further, criminal gangs are tightly interwoven into government and every aspect of commerce/business/finance and it is almost impossible to distinguish who is the good guy or bad guy when the entire system relies on corruption and connection, not law and the justice system. On top of everything else, Yeltin's attack on the KGB, his fragmenting the organization, cutting their funding etc as the result of the failed coup attempt resulted in the KGB itself getting into business to make its own money and most commonly is one of the primary players in security businesses for business (not simply extorting protection money, but also providing legit security) as well as all kinds of other enterprises and there is a strong case to be made that the KGB is the only actual true "mafia" in contemporary Russia.

                    Picking up a gun and killing someone to take their money or getting a small group of people together to do the same does not make one "mafia". Neither do prison tats, gold chains or a shitty attitude.

                    BTW... one of the main Vore v Zkone is probably still in prison in the US - Japonchik.
                    Last edited by minicivan; 12-04-2010, 04:51 PM.

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                    • SallyRand
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 3487

                      #25
                      Originally posted by minicivan
                      The group referred to above (no i didn't watch the video) are called Vore v Zkone. Thieves in Law (not thieves "by" law). They are a relic from the past, specifically from the prison system and gulags of Stalin. They are the closest thing in Russia to a structured mafia system and they are nothing today but a faint shadow of what they were. They are obligated to spend the majority of thier lives in prison and their strict codes of no drugs, don't fuck with families, don't own money or property etc etc etc was put to bed by constant fighting with other Russian criminal groups that came up in the 90s who just didn't give a fuck about anyone or their rules. Apart from Vore V Zkone, there is no structured mafia network in Russia comparable to the Italian concept of Locosa Nostra or "Mafia" as people imagine it to be. Russia has, since the dissolution of the Soviet Union been nothing but vast numbers of criminal gangs who continually rose and fell from whatever power they had leveraging whatever power or connections they had, while they had them. Further, criminal gangs are tightly interwoven into government and every aspect of commerce/business/finance and it is almost impossible to distinguish who is the good guy or bad guy when the entire system relies on corruption and connection, not law and the justice system. On top of everything else, Yeltin's attack on the KGB, his fragmenting the organization, cutting their funding etc as the result of the failed coup attempt resulted in the KGB itself getting into business to make its own money and most commonly is one of the primary players in security businesses for business (not simply extorting protection money, but also providing legit security) as well as all kinds of other enterprises and there is a strong case to be made that the KGB is the only actual true "mafia" in contemporary Russia.

                      Picking up a gun and killing someone to take their money or getting a small group of people together to do the same does not make one "mafia". Neither do prison tats, gold chains or a shitty attitude.

                      BTW... one of the main Vore v Zkone is probably still in prison in the US - Japonchik.
                      Thank you very much for your highly enlightening reply! I will admit that my only real contac I have had with so called Russian Mafia types was a few years ago, when a journalist friend exposed things concerning the takeover of the McCormick Distillery in Weston, Missouri by so-called "Russian Mafia" types, which investigation culminated in many prosecutions and large fines levied against the distillery for alcohol tax evasion.

                      I am very interested in documenting the activities of he USA based Russian crminals and your post has given me several directions in which to go.

                      Again, thank you for your reply and your reply is the kind of reply of which many more are needed here on GFY!

                      Kudos to you!

                      Thanks again.

                      Sally Rand.

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                      • minicivan
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 943

                        #26
                        Nevermind. I guess he's dead. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vyacheslav_Ivankov

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                        • HandballJim
                          Confirmed User
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 4024

                          #27
                          Russians control most of Brooklyn
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                          • just a punk
                            So fuckin' bored
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 32393

                            #28
                            The history of Russian Mafia also known as Kosher Nostra. Enjoy the reading
                            Obey the Cowgod

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                            • just a punk
                              So fuckin' bored
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 32393

                              #29
                              Good (Bad?) News

                              Thanks God these guys almost completely left Russia and now they are mostly American problem
                              Obey the Cowgod

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                              • kazbalah
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 1215

                                #30
                                Originally posted by nastymed
                                keyboard warrior

                                of course you say you don't fear.
                                You were comfortably sitting in your home in front of your computer when you wrote that.

                                Now whether it is russian mafia or any other gang, wait until you have a gun pointed at your head... like everyone you will shit your pants...
                                I wasnt scared. I had the WHOLE russia mafia outside my house with guns.

                                I walked out, and BITCH slapped the leader. He started crying like a little biiiiiiiiiiiitch.

                                hahaha..
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